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Then I can't help you. It's a very simple question. Stop polluting my thread by trying to direct people to your threads you attention whore.

Thanks. So are you implying that i didn't answer the OP question(s) in the following quote? If not, then why can't you help me by elaborating where my answer didn't answer your question(s) & or restating it? Here is what i posted:

 

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My neighbor just got arrested for growing weed.

I guess my property line wasn’t where i thought it was
 
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Rural areas in the south tend to have the highest rates of obsesity and heart disease, they also typicall have the longest drive to the nearest emergency care center. these hospitals are closing quite rapidly and making access even harder for many Americans. In the coming years we will see even bigger upticks in deaths to heart disease.

What are these rural southerners eating or doing to lead to these problems. Too much Kentucky Fried Chicken, lol?

Re high blood pressure, i wonder if that is a stress related thing & if an unusually high incidence of "gamblers" have it.

Thanks for the reply, Archie!
 

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What are these rural southerners eating or doing to lead to these problems. Too much Kentucky Fried Chicken, lol?

Re high blood pressure, i wonder if that is a stress related thing & if an unusually high incidence of "gamblers" have it.

Thanks for the reply, Archie!

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It's the sweet tea

I would have never guessed.

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https://www.food.com/recipe/southern-sweet-iced-tea-63785

It's been said oatmeal cereal porridge can be good for the heart.
 

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fill your freezer with meat, gonna be slim pickings for a month or two

* JBS USA said on Monday it is closing a beef plant in Greeley, Colorado, until April 24. The plant slaughters about 5,400 cattle a day, according to commodity firm Kerns and Associates, about 5% of the total U.S. daily slaughter.

* Smithfield Foods, the world’s biggest pork processor, on Sunday said it is indefinitely shutting a Sioux Falls, South Dakota, plant that produces about 4% to 5% of U.S. pork. The company, owned by China’s WH Group Ltd (0288.HK), warned plant shutdowns are pushing the United States “perilously close to the edge” in meat supplies for grocers.

* Tyson Foods Inc (TSN.N) said on Monday it is keeping a hog slaughterhouse in Columbus Junction, Iowa, closed this week. The company previously shut the plant the week of April 6 after more than 24 cases of COVID-19, the respiratory illness caused by the new coronavirus, involving employees at the facility.

* National Beef Packing Co suspended cattle slaughtering at an Iowa Premium beef plant in Tama, Iowa, until the week of April 20 after numerous employees tested positive for the virus, according to an announcement on its website. It had shut the plant during the week of April 6 for cleaning.
* Aurora Packing Company closed a beef plant in Aurora, Illinois, said Brad Lyle, chief financial officer for U.S. commodity firm Kerns and Associates. A security officer at the plant said it was closed due to the pandemic. The company did not respond to requests for comment.
* JBS USA shut a beef plant in Souderton, Pennsylvania, until April 16, after previously cutting production.
* Cargill Inc closed a plant in Hazleton, Pennsylvania, that produces meat for U.S. grocery stores.
* Harmony Beef in Alberta, Canada, shut its cattle slaughter operations on March 27 for two days, after a worker tested positive for the coronavirus, prompting some federal inspectors to stay away from the site.

* An Olymel pork plant in Yamachiche, Quebec, shut on March 29 for two weeks after nine workers tested positive for the coronavirus.
* Maple Leaf Foods (MFI.TO) suspended operations on April 8 at its Brampton, Ontario poultry plant, following three COVID-19 cases among workers at that facility.
* Sanderson Farms Inc (SAFM.O) reduced chicken production to 1 million birds a week from 1.3 million at a plant in Moultrie, Georgia.

Eh, I'm thinking not. I haven't had a problem with any of this stuff since this whole thing started (in addition to meats, that includes TP). I've heard some complaints locally but it's really because people insist on mostly going to one store (HEB). The other main supermarket seldom has lines and has been stocked up enough and the Whole Foods I go to has never had a line. I would suspect most people's freezer are pretty packed at this point from all the overbuying they did. My wife and I don't have that big of a freezer but certainly have plenty of food not to have to worry about this.
 

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Eh, I'm thinking not. I haven't had a problem with any of this stuff since this whole thing started (in addition to meats, that includes TP). I've heard some complaints locally but it's really because people insist on mostly going to one store (HEB). The other main supermarket seldom has lines and has been stocked up enough and the Whole Foods I go to has never had a line. I would suspect most people's freezer are pretty packed at this point from all the overbuying they did. My wife and I don't have that big of a freezer but certainly have plenty of food not to have to worry about this.


we won't see the effects of these closures on local supply chains for 2-3 weeks.

in the meantime if more packing plants close (and I can't imagine how some of them won't)

it will be an extended period of time with meat shortages

it will really hurt the farmers, that have animals ready for slaughter but no where to send them.

at some point they have to kill them anyways and waste the bodies. People that live in those rural areas that know how to do a little home butchering will be eating like kings for quite some time.
 
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You don’t like posting the explanation to this all do you? Two tweets above that is an explanation. Lmfaoooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!



These new presumed cases are mostly from ERs and hospitals, which means people weren't getting tested even in those settings. Lots more were in nursing homes or other long-term care facilities.




Ouch. Stop spreading your horseshit Travis clay perspective. Not doing anybody any good
 

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...why don't we just do this all the time? I mean after all, we lose over 50k people yearly to the flu and over 17 million worldwide to infectious diseases. Clearly social distancing works. If we could cut those numbers in half, wouldn't that be a great way to go?

And if your answer is it's because we don't have a vaccine, then let's say one gets developed and we lose 150k-200k yearly to the corona virus with the vaccine. You good with that?
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...why don't we just do this all the time? I mean after all, we lose over 50k people yearly to the flu and over 17 million worldwide to infectious diseases. Clearly social distancing works. If we could cut those numbers in half, wouldn't that be a great way to go?

And if your answer is it's because we don't have a vaccine, then let's say one gets developed and we lose 150k-200k yearly to the corona virus with the vaccine. You good with that?


You still don’t understand this virus.


But you are not alone here. There are many who do not understand it.

They think social distancing is something we should do for everything or for nothing. Lmao. You don’t understand this virus.


Do your research. Read. Then come back with something rational.
 

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Yeah, I'm laughing too Dave. Sounds logical to me if you're taking that viewpoint. The naysayers don't like being presented with that question, so instead of answering it, they just keep saying you don't understand (makes it easier for them to continue with their irrational argument).
 
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Instead of answering it? It has been answered over 100 times at least here.


Yet you STILL make a thread about it. You are clueless.
 
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If you truly do not know the differences between say the swine flu, annual flu, and coronavirus. If you don’t know the difference between them and why we have put restrictions in place for one and not the others....then my advice to you would be to educate yourself. Really. I sincerely mean that. Everyone who thinks like this needs to educate themselves right away and stop with this shit.


You need to listen to people who are telling you why instead of making threads asking the same questions like Enflameo. You guys get proved wrong every single time.
 
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...why don't we just do this all the time? I mean after all, we lose over 50k people yearly to the flu and over 17 million worldwide to infectious diseases. Clearly social distancing works. If we could cut those numbers in half, wouldn't that be a great way to go?

And if your answer is it's because we don't have a vaccine, then let's say one gets developed and we lose 150k-200k yearly to the corona virus with the vaccine. You good with that?

The authorities have repeatedly pointed to the possibility of hospitals being overwhelmed beyond their capacity with COVID-19 cases alone if economic shutdowns & social distancing measures were not being practiced. That would mean all those many thousands needing emergency care for life saving procedures would die. It would also mean that those needing immediate care to avert negative consequences like being put in comas, paralysis etc, would not be saved.

Without the shutdown & safety measures via social distancing, many hospitals would be overwhelmed while not having the staff or equipment to properly deal with it, leading to many more health care workers getting ill. That, in turn, would lead to cascading issues within the health care system as mentioned above.

The situation could get so bad that it could lead to mass panic, rioting, looting, anarchy. The government would rather avert potential doomsday scenarios.

Moreover relatively little is known about this virus compared to the flu which has been studied for decades & which has not caused hospitals to be overwhelmed as potentially they would have been via COVID-19. So better to shut things down for a few weeks or months until more is learned this novel virus. IOW better safe than sorry.

Also, relative to the flu, experts tend to think, based on the data they have thus far, that COVID-19 is much more easily transmitted & has a higher death rate. So it is considered a much more dangerous threat than the flu. Consequently, much greater measures to shut it down have been implemented.

Does that make sense to you?
 

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The authorities have repeatedly pointed to the possibility of hospitals being overwhelmed beyond their capacity with COVID-19 cases alone if economic shutdowns & social distancing measures were not being practiced. That would mean all those many thousands needing emergency care for life saving procedures would die. It would also mean that those needing immediate care to avert negative consequences like being put in comas, paralysis etc, would not be saved.

Without the shutdown & safety measures via social distancing, many hospitals would be overwhelmed while not having the staff or equipment to properly deal with it, leading to many more health care workers getting ill. That, in turn, would lead to cascading issues within the health care system as mentioned above.

The situation could get so bad that it could lead to mass panic, rioting, looting, anarchy. The government would rather avert potential doomsday scenarios.

Moreover relatively little is known about this virus compared to the flu which has been studied for decades & which has not caused hospitals to be overwhelmed as potentially they would have been via COVID-19. So better to shut things down for a few weeks or months until more is learned this novel virus. IOW better safe than sorry.

Also, relative to the flu, experts tend to think, based on the data they have thus far, that COVID-19 is much more easily transmitted & has a higher death rate. So it is considered a much more dangerous threat than the flu. Consequently, much greater measures to shut it down have been implemented.

Does that make sense to you?

what happened to the panic and doom when first hit? Ships brought in , convention centers turned to hospitals sit empty, etc.

and dont say because shut down because remember we didn’t shut down till March and many cities , states people are still out and about , even atlanta with 6 mil folks , this was here way before then remember?
 
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what happened to the panic and doom when first hit? Ships brought in , convention centers turned to hospitals sit empty, etc.

and dont say because shut down because remember we didn’t shut down till March and many cities , states people are still out and about , even atlanta with 6 mil folks , this was here way before then remember?

Sorry, Stevie, I don't know what you're trying to say. Can you not form proper sentences with clear points?
 

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