Time to just admit it. Chinese virus was over hyped... Looking like flu like numbers ?

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lets get real here.


I want to see people suffering and dying from the regular fucking flu here.

its just as bad
 

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So are you excluding the older people that die from the flu? Or are you only doing it with coronavirus? And they have been going down from when? The past 14 months?

The past 14 months have been the highest flu rate in the last decade my guy. It was what In 19-20? 100k right? When the annual average of the flu is 35-40k. So it’s very likely it’s “going down” because the average is usually much lower. Coronavirus attacks the lungs. The flu does not...and you need lungs to breathe if you didn’t know. Do you know how many old people the annual flu kills, dawg? And you’re talking like old people only die from coronavirus lmao. Very contradicting. Your whole argument goes to shit once you realize the age range and percentage of deaths regarding annual flu.
We have to start in March. What happened before that time is irrelevant since everything was attributed to the flu.
 
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We have to start in March. What happened before that time is irrelevant since everything was attributed to the flu.


What about someone having cancer and then catching influenza and dying? What about old people, who are 75%+ of the deaths of the annual flu. Did you know that? So if we exclude old people from both.....corona is going to have a lot more. Because why? Because it infects the lungs. Which say for example a baby has asthma and catches it.....might die. So the difference is clear. Just about understanding it.

Age death range for corona is really all over. Annual flu has a way higher death rate amongst the old. That’s just the facts man.

If you want to talk about a lot of old people with corona. You need to talk about the old people from the annual flu if you are going to attempt to make that point because truthfully it blows corona out the water as far as old people dying from the annual flu. So if we exclude that like a lot of your guys argument suggest, then you wouldn’t have an argument left.

The argument you are making doesn’t hold up.


Your answers are very brief and indirect.
 

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the chinese virus is like a dark corner dimly lit where MobDsters & Crack Dealers loiter eating a fruit that gives them rashes as its part of the poison ivy family waiting to pray on anyone it can. But the Strong & Informed know of their intent and fearing for the safety of individuals and property in the are call them out and their reasons & excuses for being there have no merit and are cast asunder in their place of darkness & shame after all they are just MobDsters & Thugs.
 

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What about someone having cancer and then catching influenza and dying? What about old people, who are 75%+ of the deaths of the annual flu. Did you know that? So if we exclude old people from both.....corona is going to have a lot more. Because why? Because it infects the lungs. Which say for example a baby has asthma and catches it.....might die. So the difference is clear. Just about understanding it.

Age death range for corona is really all over. Annual flu has a way higher death rate amongst the old. That’s just the facts man.

If you want to talk about a lot of old people with corona. You need to talk about the old people from the annual flu if you are going to attempt to make that point because truthfully it blows corona out the water as far as old people dying from the annual flu. So if we exclude that like a lot of your guys argument suggest, then you wouldn’t have an argument left.

The argument you are making doesn’t hold up.


Your answers are very brief and indirect.
I don't know the exact numbers so we'll use a hypothetical. Lets say normally each year in March there are 3,000 flu deaths. This year in March there are 2,000 flu death and another 1,000 that are really are flu deaths but they attributing it to coronavirus. They most likely are padding the coronavirus deaths.
 
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I got a serious question about the fake news thing that trump and his die hard supporters are so entrenched in....


Check me out.... see if you guys can answer this question....Who started fake news? And why is it something you guys obsess over? I understand that CNN built up trump and now wont show him. They are disgusting. I hate CNN as much as fox personally. BUT do you guys think it is contradicting to suggest everything as fake news when you started fake news in the first place against Obama? Actually to be exact, it was Donald Trump who started fake news against Obama LMFAO.

So it’s just very contradicting. And I’m a real mother fucker. Neutral ground. I don’t like politics I dislike both sides. But let’s be real. Trump created fake news against Obama and now cries and complains that everything is fake news that he doesn’t like. And his supporters follow by gaslighting others who disagree and mimicking their knight in shining armor, Donnie. It’s very fascist-like and vile behavior to be honest
 

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lets get real here.


I want to see people suffering and dying from the regular fucking flu here.

its just as bad
[FONT=Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif]Party pooper. Right now this is what the media lives for. A new toy to play with.

I don't know about the rest of you but I'm real fucking tired of coronavirus this
and coronavirus that.

When the TV is on and Trump gives his daily briefing I switch the channel. It's like
death by a thousand paper cuts.

For all intents and purposes it's over, done, finished. Time to move on.

Next time and don't kid yourself, there will be another virus, I just hope we don't overreact again.
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Every model has been wrong with the death rate..

It has been argued that it doesn't matter, since it served to save lives, save people from ill health (long & short term), & spare hospitals from being burdened beyond their capabilities to help the suffering & dying.


Chinese virus will end up comparable with the annual flu death rate.

Again, arguably, it doesn't matter. See above.

Furthermore, you don't that.

Also, much is unknown about this virus, it's ability to mutate, when a vaccine might be available (if ever), potential 2nd/3rd waves upcoming, reinfection, the efficacy of various drug interventions (so-called "cures"), death rate, infection rate, if it may cause infection after being airborne for many hours, etc, etc, etc. COVID-19 has only been around for a few months. OTOH the flu has been studied for decades.

Better to overstate the potential harm than understate it leading to much greater negative consequences. For example, the 1918 Spanish flu.

Better safe than sorry.
 

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It has been argued that it doesn't matter, since it served to save lives, save people from ill health (long & short term), & spare hospitals from being burdened beyond their capabilities to help the suffering & dying.




Again, arguably, it doesn't matter. See above.

Furthermore, you don't that.

Also, much is unknown about this virus, it's ability to mutate, when a vaccine might be available (if ever), potential 2nd/3rd waves upcoming, reinfection, the efficacy of various drug interventions (so-called "cures"), death rate, infection rate, if it may cause infection after being airborne for many hours, etc, etc, etc. COVID-19 has only been around for a few months. OTOH the flu has been studied for decades.

Better to overstate the potential harm than understate it leading to much greater negative consequences. For example, the 1918 Spanish flu.

Better safe than sorry.

Again. I'm looking at the repercussions model of shutting down the economy. Far worse devastation of lives destroyed with deaths , poverty , suicides , and eventually a upward tick with crime. Think ahead is what I would advise
 
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I don't know the exact numbers so we'll use a hypothetical. Lets say normally each year in March there are 3,000 flu deaths. This year in March there are 2,000 flu death and another 1,000 that are really are flu deaths but they attributing it to coronavirus. They most likely are padding the coronavirus deaths.


I will tell you. It’s around 83% of deaths on annual from the flu that have an age range of 75+. So if you take that away like your argument suggests...you wouldn’t have an argument is what I am saying. You can’t say corona only counts old people for deaths lmao. Makes no sense when your counter is the annual flu
 
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And those that think putting me on ignore is going to make me leave like stupid ass faireycarrey says bahahhahaha. Trust me on this.... I am going to be around for a long time laughing at your ridiculous foolish ass opinions. Believe that! I will be laughing so it doesn’t matter to me. You’re still going to be saying the same stupid asss shit whether or not you see me laugh at it or not
 
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Again. I'm looking at the repercussions model of shutting down the economy. Far worse devastation of lives destroyed with deaths , poverty , suicides , and eventually a upward tick with crime. Think ahead is what I would advise

Governments may tend to overstate things in these situations, rather than understate them, potentially leading to far worse consequences should things turn out much worse than they modeled, such as widespread riots, looting, anarchy, etc.

Secondly, Sweden has left their economy open, but how's that working out for them:

Sweden's Relaxed Approach to the Coronavirus Could Already Be Backfiring
https://time.com/5817412/sweden-coronavirus/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=212&v=0wpkFZUougc&feature=emb_title

The Netherlands Is Letting People Get Sick to Beat Coronavirus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmh40wwAGc

"The big lesson from South Korea's coronavirus response"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE-cA4UK07c

"The contrast between Canada and Sweden's response to COVID-19 pandemic"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cdZbISRTM

People who have been ventilated have described the experience as awful beyond belief:
https://theprovince.com/news/differ...tors/wcm/c10257f4-54a9-4176-9f21-30c6acd241e3

Hopefully you won't have to experience that "awful beyond belief".

Wear a mask & stay safe. Good luck.
 

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Governments may tend to overstate things in these situations, rather than understate them, potentially leading to far worse consequences should things turn out much worse than they modeled, such as widespread riots, looting, anarchy, etc.

Secondly, Sweden has left their economy open, but how's that working out for them:

Sweden's Relaxed Approach to the Coronavirus Could Already Be Backfiring
https://time.com/5817412/sweden-coronavirus/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=212&v=0wpkFZUougc&feature=emb_title

The Netherlands Is Letting People Get Sick to Beat Coronavirus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmh40wwAGc

"The big lesson from South Korea's coronavirus response"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE-cA4UK07c

"The contrast between Canada and Sweden's response to COVID-19 pandemic"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cdZbISRTM

People who have been ventilated have described the experience as awful beyond belief:
https://theprovince.com/news/differ...tors/wcm/c10257f4-54a9-4176-9f21-30c6acd241e3

Hopefully you won't have to experience that "awful beyond belief".

Wear a mask & stay safe. Good luck.

Govts have already overstated things using models that never came close to the original predictions of those models..

No doubt in my mind , that we'll be looking back wondering what the hell were we thinking shutting down the economy over some bad models.. Models that probably won't reach higher end annual flu death numbers..

But you've made your points dozens of times , and so have I.. Stalemate
 
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Govts have already overstated things using models that never came close to the original predictions of those models..

My point is they may purposely do this, as in erring on the side of caution (with doom & gloom models etc), in order to avoid far far worse consequences - than even you imagine what will occur by closing the economy - when people blame the government for grossly understating things, leading to "widespread riots, looting, anarchy, etc.":

"Governments may tend to overstate things in these situations, rather than understate them, potentially leading to far worse consequences should things turn out much worse than they modeled, such as widespread riots, looting, anarchy, etc."
 
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No doubt in my mind , that we'll be looking back wondering what the hell were we thinking shutting down the economy over some bad models.. Models that probably won't reach higher end annual flu death numbers..

Then maybe Trump will be out of a job, even though he said last month the US death toll could be as low as 20K.

"Dr. Theresa Tam, Canada's chief public health officer, said that the models aren't crystal balls"

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/coronavirus-covid19-april10-canada-world-1.5529020

But maybe you thought they are?
 

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Biden killed more kids- I want Biden

Look it’s OK that BIDEN killed record number of children.

The study, originally started to get a final estimate of global deaths from the H1N1 virus, shows about 200,000 people died. And it confirms most of them were young adults and children — just the opposite pattern from seasonal flu, which tends to kill people 65 and older.


https://www.nbcnews.com/healthmain/...ard-hit-2009-swine-flu-study-finds-2D11657478
 

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