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EL BANDITO
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Not necessarily ID theft, but just using the info to sell for ads, touts, other shops, etc. That's a decent income from all the people who want to bet sports there.


Well..After all months and months of operation..not one guy has said they are getting addy shit because of them..why would they sell to touts so people can turn around and take shots at them?..Would seem like Russian Roullette, ey?..What other shops?..Post ups?..Dont think so..those two are like oil and water...


I will tell you what they are doing...they will build a large base of gamblers who pay up their losses..then they will shut the door to every Johnny lunch pail who comes knocking @ the door for a free shot...

The money they lose to the current stiffs?..Evens out as their advertising budget..you see they do not pay for advertising..the posters are doing it for them..and surprise..surprise..most gamblers lose anyway..and you can only use your ID and address once because they are gonna send that payout card in your name right to your front door step
 

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Wow i will try them out, they do seem legit
 
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Look at what they are saving money on. No phone calls so no need for high tech computers with the system on each one, no need to play people to man the phones, no need for a huge building to place the people. I haven't seen any marketing material from them besides someone ghosting on the forums to get the word out on them.

All they need is a computer system that takes the bets. Who knows maybe these guys open a new world of sportsbetting.
 

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Possibly, but as more people hear about it, they can round robin with 10 friends you can hit em for 500+ and not pay the losers. That's a pretty big 'marketing budget' to pay over and over.
 

I think I want my money back!
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I like them...

Pro : Great dog lines

Con : Terrible favs

i.e. Tonight Phillies -230
 
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I posted an AD last sunday saying they rolled my I had Wilheim take it down until I was sure. Well guess what? THEY FUCKING ROLLED ME FOR 2k. Benjamin started making wild claims about shit I never did, and saying an ip address in north Omaha was mine which was in West Omaha even though I use a totally different service. So I send in my bill to prove I do guess what? My internet calls me and says someone is trying to look up information of me and use my account ID on there.. Fuck them scumbags!
 

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They offer any bells and whistles type bets like futures and props etc or just your bread and butter straight type wagering?
 

MY HEART IS A HOME AND FEAR DONT LIVE HERE
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I posted an AD last sunday saying they rolled my I had Wilheim take it down until I was sure. Well guess what? THEY FUCKING ROLLED ME FOR 2k. Benjamin started making wild claims about shit I never did, and saying an ip address in north Omaha was mine which was in West Omaha even though I use a totally different service. So I send in my bill to prove I do guess what? My internet calls me and says someone is trying to look up information of me and use my account ID on there.. Fuck them scumbags!



you were owed two grand and they didnt pay up? then they were trying to use your account id for what?
 

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this guy who started this thread is probally a shill look at the post:wink:
 
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They do post on this forum. Ben admitted it it to me one night on the phone when he was being buddy buddy, yeah I tore them a new asshole at baseball, he said he didnt believe i was who i said I was so I sent in my ID, he wanted my online account info like proof of billing, heat bill etc. They started trying to get into accounts.
 

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fuck i started with them i am up but didnt request a pay out yet. so i have not sent in any info im thinking maybe i wont.:WTF:
 

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yeah they always ask for a id and proof of address like a utility . i dont think they can get much info with that
 

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They do post on this forum. Ben admitted it it to me one night on the phone when he was being buddy buddy, yeah I tore them a new asshole at baseball, he said he didnt believe i was who i said I was so I sent in my ID, he wanted my online account info like proof of billing, heat bill etc. They started trying to get into accounts.



this is the first case i heard of someone getting screwed with all the posts about this site
 

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Was just a matter of time...Of course you pay the first poor schmucks who win...so you can get all the posts "hey, people are getting paid!!" and more schmucks play, and a few actually pay you when they lose....then, no mas, like Lazaerwager.
 
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Do you really believe a guy called Degenerate Dude? I would bet my $1000 balance that there is a lot more to that story.
 

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I believe him as much as all these promoter shadow posters -- "hey, they don't pay marketing, they pay players" bullshit that they are probably getting a kickback on.

Wither that or they are hyping it in hopes of getting a check before the whole house of cards comes down, like a ponzi scheme.
 
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lol just cause my name is degeneratedood makes my posts invalid and my word null? That is very asinine.

I have some of these conversations saved with these guys verbatim.

I could honestly care less if you play there or not. I told my story and that is all I wanted to do.
 

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I believe him as much as all these promoter shadow posters -- "hey, they don't pay marketing, they pay players" bullshit that they are probably getting a kickback on.

Wither that or they are hyping it in hopes of getting a check before the whole house of cards comes down, like a ponzi scheme.


This is a forum ... We are here to protect each other`s asses..Least thats what I think...

Please identify the "promoter shadow posters" so that we can know how to deal with them...

They do not pay marketing... that is a fact not an opinion...Pls explain how it is bull shit?

They have paid all players that we know of..until now..we have Degenerate Dude with a beef...there are two sides to every door, so I will hold my opinion on that..I like DD as a poster

I am sure there are those who will create different accounts from nearby friends or relatives house holds...not saying this is case..will keep an eye on the outcome...

Who is waiting on a check?..I heard they reload a debit card?

You sound a bit angry..Whats your experience with this book?...Or is it just the stuff you have read?

Maybe they will come tumbling down...maybe they wont..I sure as hell dont know?

Aint no two timer, I`m a 5 Dimer:howdy:
 

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