This Pac 12 is a joke............

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While I would agree Arkansas is much stronger team than Colorado along with Bama compared to UCLA, however, I think you are underestimating the Pac 12 as a conference as a whole. UCLA has been a colossal bust, but that was mainly due to the unrealistic pre-season media hype of being a playoff team. USC has been a bit of a disappointment, but they can easily right the ship and find their way into the playoffs if they win out, which is a big "if", but they would be a hell of a story going on a nice run to close the season including wins over Utah, UCLA, Notre Dame and a conference title win over Oregon.

Teams like Arizona, Arizona State, Utah and California have exceeding expectations at this point, Colorado has a pulse for the first time in a while, Washington State has shown flashes. Pretty deep conference and the second strongest IMO, a hair above the Big 12. With the state of the ACC and B1G, the Pac 12 winner should almost be an auto representative in the playoff, even with two losses.
 

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While I would agree Arkansas is much stronger team than Colorado along with Bama compared to UCLA, however, I think you are underestimating the Pac 12 as a conference as a whole. UCLA has been a colossal bust, but that was mainly due to the unrealistic pre-season media hype of being a playoff team. USC has been a bit of a disappointment, but they can easily right the ship and find their way into the playoffs if they win out, which is a big "if", but they would be a hell of a story going on a nice run to close the season including wins over Utah, UCLA, Notre Dame and a conference title win over Oregon.

Teams like Arizona, Arizona State, Utah and California have exceeding expectations at this point, Colorado has a pulse for the first time in a while, Washington State has shown flashes. Pretty deep conference and the second strongest IMO, a hair above the Big 12. With the state of the ACC and B1G, the Pac 12 winner should almost be an auto representative in the playoff, even with two losses.

I'm usually a PAC-12 homer. Previous years they were right up there with the sec. This year the sec clearly has multiple teams that are better than the best PAC-12 teams. There's some good teams in the PAC-12 but definitely not top 4 type teams. USC is definitely not playoff material. Oregon might have a chance if they win out but their defense is sketchy and O'line can't stop anyone. There's just no one in the PAC-12 that is nc worthy or even playoff worthy.
 

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While I would agree Arkansas is much stronger team than Colorado along with Bama compared to UCLA, however, I think you are underestimating the Pac 12 as a conference as a whole. UCLA has been a colossal bust, but that was mainly due to the unrealistic pre-season media hype of being a playoff team. USC has been a bit of a disappointment, but they can easily right the ship and find their way into the playoffs if they win out, which is a big "if", but they would be a hell of a story going on a nice run to close the season including wins over Utah, UCLA, Notre Dame and a conference title win over Oregon.

Teams like Arizona, Arizona State, Utah and California have exceeding expectations at this point, Colorado has a pulse for the first time in a while, Washington State has shown flashes. Pretty deep conference and the second strongest IMO, a hair above the Big 12. With the state of the ACC and B1G, the Pac 12 winner should almost be an auto representative in the playoff, even with two losses.

If the SEC champ is unbeaten and there is another one loss team in the West they should get in. PAC12 should only be considered with one loss. No one has impressed me in the PAC12 this year - just no defense at all.
 

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If the SEC champ is unbeaten and there is another one loss team in the West they should get in. PAC12 should only be considered with one loss. No one has impressed me in the PAC12 this year - just no defense at all.

You keep saying this. The #2 D in the nation belongs to Stanford.
 

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You keep saying this. The #2 D in the nation belongs to Stanford.

a lot of pics being thrown by these sec qb's today... overall qb play in this league is below avg imo..... I don't see any NFL gm wasting a high draft pick on the whole lot
 

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