<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lander:
beentheredonethat, sounds more like beenthere_booked_that ...
.. the great think about these disputes is one can usually see which side of the counter everyone else is on when it comes time to take a stance
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Lander, I am a long time successful player. I have never been on the other side of the counter. I have called joints and told them they had a bad line and told to bet into it if it is bad only to have it cancelled days later. But, people that take shots at bad lines knowingly for substantially above their normal wagers are putting the financail health of the book in harms way and MAY cause one of them to be unable to pay a legitimate player. It is to everyone's benifit for the books to book rather than gamble.
beentheredonethat, sounds more like beenthere_booked_that ...
.. the great think about these disputes is one can usually see which side of the counter everyone else is on when it comes time to take a stance
Lander, I am a long time successful player. I have never been on the other side of the counter. I have called joints and told them they had a bad line and told to bet into it if it is bad only to have it cancelled days later. But, people that take shots at bad lines knowingly for substantially above their normal wagers are putting the financail health of the book in harms way and MAY cause one of them to be unable to pay a legitimate player. It is to everyone's benifit for the books to book rather than gamble.
This was not even close to a bad line.
Dave is a professional shot taker, now boys what you fail to realize is how many times has he done this over the years. We do not here about this stuff if your not on a forum board. He must screw one player a week on bad lines!! Wow that adds up pretty good in the long run. The bettors have no choice and accept it but now it was a poster that got screwed and he exposed Dave's scam period so Dave would not pay him.Pretty nice side business he has going here isn't it??
Dave is a professional shot taker, now boys what you fail to realize is how many times has he done this over the years. We do not here about this stuff if your not on a forum board. He must screw one player a week on bad lines!! Wow that adds up pretty good in the long run. The bettors have no choice and accept it but now it was a poster that got screwed and he exposed Dave's scam period so Dave would not pay him.Pretty nice side business he has going here isn't it??
My mistake (but usually this issue draws a big line across the counter) ..
I always alert the book too, but this one is by no means an "obvious" bad line IMHO.
Where does a book stop? What if they said we had +110, but the line was +100 at Oly .. so we're cancelling it?? That wouldn't fly.
I always alert the book too, but this one is by no means an "obvious" bad line IMHO.
Where does a book stop? What if they said we had +110, but the line was +100 at Oly .. so we're cancelling it?? That wouldn't fly.
Well well well....
Looks like we now have Mr Johnson shilling not only as Jim Ross, but BeenthereDonethat as well...
I don't think you will be able to convince this group of posters that you haven't been posting under the direction of Mike himself!
Just like he did the last time with that fake secretary...
You are a DESPARATE little MAN...
Don't force me to go further or I will divulge more and more about you, your father, your temper tantrums, etc...
OK Mike?
Now call me back because I put in a phone call to you yesterday and I would like this resolved so that the players can get payed before you embarrass yourself any further!
Looks like we now have Mr Johnson shilling not only as Jim Ross, but BeenthereDonethat as well...
I don't think you will be able to convince this group of posters that you haven't been posting under the direction of Mike himself!
Just like he did the last time with that fake secretary...
You are a DESPARATE little MAN...
Don't force me to go further or I will divulge more and more about you, your father, your temper tantrums, etc...
OK Mike?
Now call me back because I put in a phone call to you yesterday and I would like this resolved so that the players can get payed before you embarrass yourself any further!
Some where along the line Beenthere had a bet canceled by a book and now sees all cases as his own. If the guy would just tell us what happened to him he could forget about his personal case. His case has clouded his judgement in all other cases of canceled bets.
I just read Shrinks note and that actually makes more sense. I accussed him of this in another thread and the guy blew his top.
I just read Shrinks note and that actually makes more sense. I accussed him of this in another thread and the guy blew his top.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jjgold
Hey guy we are going on a double date this fall, I will be taking A Lady Pasing BY and you will be taking Jenny.
I will pay too.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Your going to pay...I like the deal Free is my favorite 4 letter word
Hey guy we are going on a double date this fall, I will be taking A Lady Pasing BY and you will be taking Jenny.
I will pay too.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Your going to pay...I like the deal Free is my favorite 4 letter word
Shrink
Not so ,that was purely a guess based upon his posts here and elsewhere and the computer related name "JAVA". Also most of his posts bore the flavor of some kind of personal issues with Dave Johnson. Just read them all. Here and MW. In fact, at another site something was mentioned yesterday that brought up a connection with a computer issue related to CBS changeover to their new system. I've seen books trashed by previous employers before and his posts seemed like he might of been a disgruntled empoyee. Just wording in the posts of a personal nature that went beyond casual opinion. Didn't have to be a genius to guess that might be the case.
Your wrong shrink!!
Not so ,that was purely a guess based upon his posts here and elsewhere and the computer related name "JAVA". Also most of his posts bore the flavor of some kind of personal issues with Dave Johnson. Just read them all. Here and MW. In fact, at another site something was mentioned yesterday that brought up a connection with a computer issue related to CBS changeover to their new system. I've seen books trashed by previous employers before and his posts seemed like he might of been a disgruntled empoyee. Just wording in the posts of a personal nature that went beyond casual opinion. Didn't have to be a genius to guess that might be the case.
Your wrong shrink!!
Jim Ross-
There is no doubt you are Dave Johnson or acting under direct inside information from him.
Sure, Dave could email or dictate his posts to "Jim Ross" and send them from a remote location, but Shrink's implication was that your specific comment about me was too specific to come from the outside.
I also agree Beenthere also smells a lot like Casablanca, since he started posting Jun 24th, shortly after this probelm with Areeff.
When I used to work on his old computer system, Dave Johnson asked me to create this very "Java" account so I could defend criticisms of their software, but come from an address outside of Casablanca's office. I was the one that explained how IP addresses worked to Dave, so I feel bad for all the shilling he as done in the years since.
Anyway, my support of Areeff in this no pay situation is based upon the inconsistent excuses by Dave Johnson, which are pointed out by many other posters as well.
Singling out one poster from behind a weak shill like Jim Ross is just an attempt to divert attention.
To use such a shill to attack Shrink is just plain stupid.
There is no doubt you are Dave Johnson or acting under direct inside information from him.
Sure, Dave could email or dictate his posts to "Jim Ross" and send them from a remote location, but Shrink's implication was that your specific comment about me was too specific to come from the outside.
I also agree Beenthere also smells a lot like Casablanca, since he started posting Jun 24th, shortly after this probelm with Areeff.
When I used to work on his old computer system, Dave Johnson asked me to create this very "Java" account so I could defend criticisms of their software, but come from an address outside of Casablanca's office. I was the one that explained how IP addresses worked to Dave, so I feel bad for all the shilling he as done in the years since.
Anyway, my support of Areeff in this no pay situation is based upon the inconsistent excuses by Dave Johnson, which are pointed out by many other posters as well.
Singling out one poster from behind a weak shill like Jim Ross is just an attempt to divert attention.
To use such a shill to attack Shrink is just plain stupid.
Shrink,
That is comical. Me a shill!!!!! You know who I am. I am here under and alias to keep a baseball poster straight who tends to try to get fellow posters to lend him or give him money and consistantly lies about his record and lines.
We have a mutual friend and at one time you even were asked to meet she and her roommate at my home in North Carolina.
To call me a shill is comical. You have been way too hard on this book who I have not ties with at all. If it had been the guys at Rio who had done the same thing, you would have stayed out of the battle.
Maybe another hint -- I know about the tape recording of the call that went to the wrong room at the Bellagio. My friends still like you even though your business relationship with her no longer exist.
Like I said, Longtime successful player with NO ties to any book. For you to claim otherwise is taking a WILD shot in the dark WHICH you certainly are no stranger in doing.
I have never met you but I respect most of what you do --- but, on this issue, you look more and more like JJGOLD and that is not a compliment.
That is comical. Me a shill!!!!! You know who I am. I am here under and alias to keep a baseball poster straight who tends to try to get fellow posters to lend him or give him money and consistantly lies about his record and lines.
We have a mutual friend and at one time you even were asked to meet she and her roommate at my home in North Carolina.
To call me a shill is comical. You have been way too hard on this book who I have not ties with at all. If it had been the guys at Rio who had done the same thing, you would have stayed out of the battle.
Maybe another hint -- I know about the tape recording of the call that went to the wrong room at the Bellagio. My friends still like you even though your business relationship with her no longer exist.
Like I said, Longtime successful player with NO ties to any book. For you to claim otherwise is taking a WILD shot in the dark WHICH you certainly are no stranger in doing.
I have never met you but I respect most of what you do --- but, on this issue, you look more and more like JJGOLD and that is not a compliment.
Shrink your own words in this thread;
>>" posted July 01, 2003 02:23 PM
We are dealing with a sports book that has had a stellar record until this incident... SHRINK"<<
Now you are accusing him and his book of all kinds of improprieties including being a cross dresser who throws temper tantrums . Your also accusing me of being him, and calling you at the same time.
Please slow down shrink
. I'm still hopefull that this is worked out. In every post I've made I said Dave Johnson was wrong in NOT paying and he should pay these guys off. Just read them.
You can apologize later.
>>" posted July 01, 2003 02:23 PM
We are dealing with a sports book that has had a stellar record until this incident... SHRINK"<<
Now you are accusing him and his book of all kinds of improprieties including being a cross dresser who throws temper tantrums . Your also accusing me of being him, and calling you at the same time.
Please slow down shrink
You can apologize later.
