this is the leader of the birther movement?

[Mistermj]

You are either a liar or willfully ignorant.

Well, we've already established the fact that you're a liar Onion-boy.

"There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record," DOH Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said.

Fukino said she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said.​

http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html

Quit spreading your long debunked lies.

CNN the most trusted source for news debunks DEAC.

Who are you going to believe? A lying little punk or CNN? d1g1t

CNN/U.S.

President Jon Klein told staffers… Thursday night that the supposed controversy regarding the legitimacy of President Obama’s birth certificate is a “dead” story after anchor Lou Dobbs drew attention for raising the issue repeatedly on his radio program.
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The website TVNewser reported today that Klein sent an e-mail to staffers of “Lou Dobbs Tonight” just as the program went to air,
***informing them that CNN researchers had determined that Hawaiian officials discarded all paper documents in 2001.****d1g1t
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A long-form birth certificate with details about the doctor who delivered Obama no longer exists, they reported.

:cripwalk:

 

[DeathEatsaCracker]

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The website TVNewser reported today that Klein sent an e-mail to staffers of “Lou Dobbs Tonight” just as the program went to air,
***informing them that CNN researchers had determined that Hawaiian officials discarded all paper documents in 2001.****d1g1t
.

CNN was wrong. Funny how you now find them a reputable source when their error helps make your case, such as it is.

Who are YOU gonna believe? An erroneous CNN report touted by Mistermj or Hawaiian state officials?

"We don't destroy vital records," Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo said. "That's our whole job, to maintain and retain vital records."

The Health Department's director reiterated yesterday that she has seen Obama's birth records.

"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai'i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai'i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai'i and is a natural-born American citizen," Fukino said in a statement. "I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008, over eight months ago."​

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090728/NEWS01/907280345/

You have NO case, liar.

 

[Mistermj]

I didn't say it....the President of CNN said it after CNN did an investigation. And it was also reported by the LA Times here:

CNN President Jon Klein declares Obama birther story 'dead'


CNN researchers had determined that Hawaiian officials discarded all paper documents in 2001. A long-form birth certificate with details about the doctor who delivered Obama no longer exists, they reported.
CNN President Jon Klein declares Obama birther story 'dead' | Show Tracker | Los Angeles Times (5 August 2009)

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sho...nt-jon-klein-declares-birther-story-dead.html

Nice try...:lol:

:cripwalk:

 

[punter]

Fast foward 30 years.

mj, sitting on the porch w/ his great grandchild (unisex) "yep Obama, as you know as Obama the great was the only president that was not a citizen". child, "Is that what made him so great Paw Paw?" "Nooooooooooooooo got go, Paw Paw has shit his pants"

 

[DeathEatsaCracker]

I didn't say it....the President of CNN said it after CNN did an investigation. And it was also reported by the LA Times here:

CNN President Jon Klein declares Obama birther story 'dead'


CNN researchers had determined that Hawaiian officials discarded all paper documents in 2001. A long-form birth certificate with details about the doctor who delivered Obama no longer exists, they reported.
CNN President Jon Klein declares Obama birther story 'dead' | Show Tracker | Los Angeles Times (5 August 2009)

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sho...nt-jon-klein-declares-birther-story-dead.html

Nice try...:lol:

:cripwalk:

So the president of CNN trumps Hawaiian state officials who say they have seen the original document?


On a separate note, isn't all this moot anyway? Obama's mother is an American citizen. Even if he was born in Kenya, he would still be an American citizen.

 

[Mistermj]

So the president of CNN trumps Hawaiian state officials who say they have seen the original document?


On a separate note, isn't all this moot anyway? Obama's mother is an American citizen. Even if he was born in Kenya, he would still be an American citizen.

Strike two...

“A child born abroad on or after December 24, 1952 and before November 14, 1986 to one U.S. citizen parent and one non-citizen parent can acquire U.S. citizenship at birth if the U.S. citizen parent can demonstrate that he or she was physically present in the United States for a minimum of ten years, at least five of which were after the age of fourteen, prior to the birth of the child.” ​

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Because Barack’s mother — born November 29, 1942 — bore him at the age of 18 years, eight months plus, she could not possibly qualify for the five year requirement. (A subsequent law reduced the five years to two, but only for children born after 1986, and made provisional retroactive exceptions favoring parents serving in the military or for international organization. Neither applies to Obama).

 

[DeathEatsaCracker]

There was no such law at the time of Obama's birth. Ronald Reagan is the one who signed that into law.

Back to the original point.

Was Jon Klein mistaken or are the Hawaiian officials lying about seeing Obama's original birth certificate?

 

[barman]

DEAC, the Hawaiian affadavit actually states that the cited officials have seen the "original vital records maintained on file"

aka - the now digital files of all files that prior to 2001 were maintained on paper in file cabinets.

Joe Jr knows this....but he'll keep playing late night word games as long as you feed the troll

 

[DeathEatsaCracker]

You're right. I should know better.

 

[Mistermj]

There was no such law at the time of Obama's birth. Ronald Reagan is the one who signed that into law.

Back to the original point.

Was Jon Klein mistaken or are the Hawaiian officials lying about seeing Obama's original birth certificate?

LOL...what is this Whack a Mole?

I'm not going to debunk every wild ass kook trial balloon you try to float.

It's obvious you are grasping at straws.

The bottom line remains...we don't need to argue about anything.

Obama promised us transparency....lets just see the damn thing and put it to rest.

Easy as can be.

 

[gtc08]

mj, its out there. you just dont think its legit.

you lost all cred when you jumped on board with orly tavitz and the wnd crowd.

its not even worth arguing. nothing is going to be discovered. nothing is going to come out.

i do agree with another poster that its a good story for the summer and i said before this is a GOP problem. 42 percent of the GOP doesnt think Obama is a citizen, 98 percent dems think he is, 95 percent independent think he is.

this is a right issue. tiny portion of the right, but they still make the right look stupid.

 

[gtc08]

here's mj's birth certificate

 

[Willie99]

mj, its out there. you just dont think its legit.

you lost all cred when you jumped on board with orly tavitz and the wnd crowd.

its not even worth arguing. nothing is going to be discovered. nothing is going to come out.

i do agree with another poster that its a good story for the summer and i said before this is a GOP problem. 42 percent of the GOP doesnt think Obama is a citizen, 98 percent dems think he is, 95 percent independent think he is.

this is a right issue. tiny portion of the right, but they still make the right look stupid.

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GTC's math from GTC's poll on this matter

First, the poll from his thread
Yes No Not sure
Dem 93 4 3
Rep 42 28 30
Ind 83 8 9

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now the math

Dems 93 yes + 4 not sure + 3 no = 98 yes
Ind 83 yes + 8 not sure + 9 no = 95 yes
Rep 42 yes + 28 not sure + 30 no = 58 no

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his inconsistencies in logic make him a great liberal mind

the fact that our resident grad student's math skills are as bad as his spelling and grammar skills is kinda scary

I guess 28 + 30 = 58

maybe batting 333 in math 101 is ok nowadays, IDK

:lol: