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Sorry "expert" but in reply to this "Basically, where there's poverty, there's crime." it should read "Basically where there is people there is crime"

Your twisted views are always boring, like the preachers that knock every weekend on my door to tell me how the world is coming to an end (which has been happening for the last 2000 years basically)
 

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I'm reading about all these murders in Cancun, Mexico now, as the drug dealers are fighting with each other. There were tourists murdered in Acapulco recently as well. The tourism people of Mexico are pissed that the press is publicising what's going on there. I would recommed you pass on any vacation south of the border. Now is not the best time to go visiting third world countries. Go to Europe or visit one of the many incredible places in the U.S. that you haven't seen yet.
Right like Cerritos LA, Bronx NY, B. Rouche, ... I just don't get it.
 

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Right like Cerritos LA, Bronx NY, B. Rouche, ... I just don't get it.
If you think that's what living in the U.S. is about, then I guess you don't get it. I've seen a lot of Ticos move to the states and end up right back in CR because they couldn't cut the mustard in the states. I'll admit that it's easier in a way to live in CR. Nothing is expected of anyone down there, and it's OK to be a fracaso (Spanish for loser). "Oh...Pablo is doing great...he works at the sportsbook and gets $200 a week." And Pablo has the weekends, XMas, Semana Santa and Palmares to look forward too so he can get wasted and maybe go to Jaco. And then the next year, he does it all over again. The expectations are so low in CR that they don't even expect fathers to help support their children because they have a hard time just supporting themselves. Nobody is really going anywhere down there or building any kind of future. Making it day-to-day is the best the vast majority of folks hope to do. It doesn't even resemble a country...it's more like a gang or a tribe. Oops, I did it again. I've exposed the truth once again about CR.

If you disagree with anything I've said in this post, please address it and be specific. If all you come up with is calling me names, I'll assume that I'm right once again (which is, in fact, the case unfortunately).
 

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What the hell does this have to do with vacation choices? We get your point, you don't like living there, but why bad mouth places and tell people to vacation elsewhere? You are going to tell me in December it is better to go to Europe where it is dark at 4pm and it is either raining or snowing, but certainly colder each and every day than it will ever be in the history of Costa Rica?

American you are unbelievable sometimes, everything with you is just being bitter. I have found your arguments at times fair and reasonable, but you just love to take one shot after another. You don't quit, everything has to go back to the attitude of I just can't let it go. You got out, you didn't like it there. Fair enough, but do you really feel it is necessary to rain on everyone's parade as much as you can? I won't lie and tell people life in CR is idyllic or paradise, but this all started with the question can I go to CR and survive being a gringo with no Spanish skills. This wasn't asking "tell me the merits of living in a third world country". That is the problem here, no one asked if Ticos are living a life that allows them to get ahead. Save that for discussions where people want to talk about that and stop jumping in with your diatribe where that isn't the topic and I bet a lot more of us would fully respect your opinion.
 

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I will be specific and see if you can understand any of it (not likely since you have been mumbling the same thing for the last year and a half)

"If you think that's what living in the U.S. is about, then I guess you don't get it. I've seen a lot of Ticos move to the states and end up right back in CR because they couldn't cut the mustard in the states. I'll admit that it's easier in a way to live in CR."

This is generic nonsense, same can be "said" for any latino not just CR, perhaps you haven't noticed that the % of latino population in the States is about 10% and keeps growing, I supose that's why they all "come back", also let me explain this to you, many go to the States to make money and come back to a better life, it's not that they all necessarily go to stay and live there forever.

Sure, some will fail, but many suceed but it's not like 100% of them (or 10% for that matter are Costa Ricans). Also many come back simply because it's not easy to work illegally (as most of them do) where they work for peanuts and risk immigration raids every day.

"The expectations are so low in CR that they don't even expect fathers to help support their children because they have a hard time just supporting themselves"

Another nonsense, expectations are the same here as everywhere else, you are suposed to support yourself and your family, at least here there is still a lot of positions available, anyone can get a job and the one that claims that "can't" its just full of it, everyday more positions are created as US/European corporations outsource jobs to reduce costs and leave a bunch of qualified people unemployed. What does this means? That is the person flipping the burgers might very well be someone with a university degree and not just the typical loser that barely completed highschool and is destined to make 5 dollars/hour. Everyone here tries to go to college (and they typically can finance it because the prices are not as ridiculously expensive as in the US where you better start saving for your kids education 5 years before they are born).

Most see sportsbooks as temporary jobs, with the way that things are "handled" in the industry how many clerks do you think can say that their job is secure? With the issues that most sportsbooks owners have drugs/alcohol/women/gambling/money management/ego issues of the "new millionaries" its not hard to imagine them all folding (yes, I know there are many well run outfits but out of the many operations I have seen most owners/managers have at least 2 of the "traits" I listed above= don't count on your booking job, just enjoy it while it lasts

You have been "predicting" the end of Costa Rica for a long long time, however here it doesn't look as any armageddon is taking place, people keep builiding houses/office centers etc etc.........next time take a look at how the US economy came from having a superavit to the biggest deficit in recent times. I am starting to think that I might have to diversy my savings in case the dollars value keeps going down and down. (I would imagine it was going to improve since the end of "major combat" except that it was another hoax that they sold to you, it just keeps getting worse and worse)

In the end...........all I can say is keep sending jobs to us......that surely benefits you by giving you the lowest available prices (and next time that your dell "american" computer breaks then you end up calling here or India), of course, I wonder what exactly are US workers going to do, they have removed almost all manufacturing plants from the US and now the internet allows even MORE jobs to disappear such as any support/call center and now even your Uncle Sam returns get processed outside the US by your helpful Indian/Costa Rican/Philipinon accountant.
 

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That was a great post. Globalization is definately here to stay. I like the part about the "new millionaires" issues too. It hits the nail on the head.
 

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What the hell does this have to do with vacation choices? We get your point, you don't like living there, but why bad mouth places and tell people to vacation elsewhere? You are going to tell me in December it is better to go to Europe where it is dark at 4pm and it is either raining or snowing, but certainly colder each and every day than it will ever be in the history of Costa Rica?

American you are unbelievable sometimes, everything with you is just being bitter. I have found your arguments at times fair and reasonable, but you just love to take one shot after another. You don't quit, everything has to go back to the attitude of I just can't let it go. You got out, you didn't like it there. Fair enough, but do you really feel it is necessary to rain on everyone's parade as much as you can? I won't lie and tell people life in CR is idyllic or paradise, but this all started with the question can I go to CR and survive being a gringo with no Spanish skills. This wasn't asking "tell me the merits of living in a third world country". That is the problem here, no one asked if Ticos are living a life that allows them to get ahead. Save that for discussions where people want to talk about that and stop jumping in with your diatribe where that isn't the topic and I bet a lot more of us would fully respect your opinion.
Absolutely sharp post. No need to extend. :drink:
 

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and next time that your dell "american" computer breaks then you end up calling here or India
Actually, the next time your IBM Thinkpad or PC breaks down, you'll be calling China.

Universities here cannot be compared to Universities in the States, sorry. Perhaps compared to community colleges, and then the prices are likely similar.

As for pre-University, in the States you can get your kids into very a good school (public) simply by moving into a good district. Here, decent schools (private) are very very expensive.
 

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"Universities here cannot be compared to Universities in the States, sorry. Perhaps compared to community colleges, and then the prices are likely similar."

It depends, a Bachelor degree is pretty much the same, MSc and in science/engineering cores that would be a big difference (higher quality in the US), but people here basically gets a Lic degree which is intermediate between a BS and a MSc, this is because MSc and higher have a very high % of researched attached to it and big bucks are required for the facilities required that don't exist here.

Both ITCR and UCR are having more and more engineering careers certified by (I think) a Canadian Education Board which means that now degrees attained in those institutions are recognized in Canada.

As far as private universities that's a whole different stories but UCR/ITCR do compare in quality of education to universities in the States.

The reason why the prices are so low is mainly because goverment subsides a big % of the costs (and also because research facilities are not the same quality).

I know that the Civil Engineering department has interesting facilities in the "Ciudad de Investigacion" but the school I attended (Chemical Engineering) has pretty pitiful facilities and that's why MSc are not common here (the people that want them which typically are profesors usually just go to get it to an university in the States)
 

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American said:
If you think that's what living in the U.S. is about, then I guess you don't get it. I've seen a lot of Ticos move to the states and end up right back in CR because they couldn't cut the mustard in the states. I'll admit that it's easier in a way to live in CR. Nothing is expected of anyone down there, and it's OK to be a fracaso (Spanish for loser). "Oh...Pablo is doing great...he works at the sportsbook and gets $200 a week." And Pablo has the weekends, XMas, Semana Santa and Palmares to look forward too so he can get wasted and maybe go to Jaco. And then the next year, he does it all over again. The expectations are so low in CR that they don't even expect fathers to help support their children because they have a hard time just supporting themselves. Nobody is really going anywhere down there or building any kind of future. Making it day-to-day is the best the vast majority of folks hope to do. It doesn't even resemble a country...it's more like a gang or a tribe. Oops, I did it again. I've exposed the truth once again about CR.

If you disagree with anything I've said in this post, please address it and be specific. If all you come up with is calling me names, I'll assume that I'm right once again (which is, in fact, the case unfortunately).
And by the way, I'm not here to waist my time into that right/wrong statement bullshit. I'm focus on sports betting activity and learn the most I can from it in here.
 

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