What silly stories shall we post next? How about that time when God couldn’t find Adam and Eve because they were hiding from him? (Gen 3:8-9)
Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Lord God among the trees of the garden.But the Lord God called to the man, “Where are you?”
I wonder if there is a link that can explain how the only two mortals on the planet who lived in a garden could hide from a god who created them and everything. He’s pretty bad at this omnipotent thing early on.
What was a really amazing result of this “fall” was the fact that god put a bull with angels wings AND a flaming sword swinging back and forth in front of the tree of knowledge so they wouldn’t do that again. (Gen 3:24)
Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Lord God among the trees of the garden.But the Lord God called to the man, “Where are you?”
What was a really amazing result of this “fall” was the fact that god put a bull with angels wings AND a flaming sword swinging back and forth in front of the tree of knowledge so they wouldn’t do that again. (Gen 3:24)
After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.
Atheists and Agnostics are not only more knowledge than Christians about Christianity (especially as it pertains to the constitution), they are also more knowledgeable about religion in general.
As a matter of fact, the higher the level of one’s education, the less likely it is that they will turn to Bronze Age myths for explanations of life in the 21st century. Nones are also the fast growing segment of the population.
Common question who created God - God never started to exist - He always Was - He never Came Into existence this does not violate the law of non contradiction - but if you try to eliminate God then your back to How can anything Or first substance or energy field come into being! So if you say a particle starts to exist then that is impossible. As the prominent physicist And atheist Fred Hoyle said one must be a dummy to thing all of this just started to exist without an intelligent cause - He btw coined the term BigBang n resisted it many years and finally gave in an said - Someone has tinkered with the universe -according to the Big bang the Universe started from a pt in space -where all matter , time and Space starts to exist literally from Nothing-there was no Before - Time IS matter in motion and nothing more - now this expansion is Not moving into some existing Space - No again all space and matter is contained in the expansion! A mind blowing reality - things like coke bottles ,elephants whatever do not just appear and neither dose the Universe pop into existence - God is the best explanation of why this is so! Imho
Hey, let’s not stop there with Hoyle! He also said that life didn’t even originate on earth and promoted the concept of Panspermia, the idea that life originated on earth viruses spreading via comet impacts. He said that the Influenza Epidemic of 1918 and Polio and and Mad Cow disease had extraterrestrial origin. Of course, these ideas most certainly invalidate your Christian belief, but I’m guessing you just pick and choose which of his theories you need to ignore to not be a “dummy”.
Even if one does accept that the Universe is a product of intelligent design, you still have quite a bit of work to do to make to: “And the god of the bible is the one responsible for it.”
Let’s move on from “I don’t know, therefore God” and into some other Appeals to Authority to find the true nature of life.
Nick Bostrom, the prominent Oxford educated professor has posited that the universe that we live in does have an intelligent design - we are all living in a simulation.
Laurence Krause, theoretical physicist and cosmologist, wrote a book called a Universe from Nothing which of course lays out in great detail how in fact something can come from nothing.
Even if one does accept that the Universe is a product of intelligent design, you still have quite a bit of work to do to make to: “And the god of the bible is the one responsible for it.”
Let’s move on from “I don’t know, therefore God” and into some other Appeals to Authority to find the true nature of life.
Nick Bostrom, the prominent Oxford educated professor has posited that the universe that we live in does have an intelligent design - we are all living in a simulation.
Laurence Krause, theoretical physicist and cosmologist, wrote a book called a Universe from Nothing which of course lays out in great detail how in fact something can come from nothing.
My hypothesis Is sound - again things just don’t pop into existence - someone had to be responsible and Hoyle rejected God an opt for aliens -but who made them? The Godvof the Bible is head and shoulders over all else . Jesus was the only one that said I come down from heaven - all the rest were born on earth
My hypothesis Is sound - again things just don’t pop into existence - someone had to be responsible and Hoyle rejected God an opt for aliens -but who made them? The Godvof the Bible is head and shoulders over all else . Jesus was the only one that said I come down from heaven - all the rest were born on earth[/QUOTE]
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[FONT=Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif]Yes I was. From what you've said you think the Bible is fiction and you're
on the fence about there being a god. You would like to think there is but
you have no proof.
P.S. It just so happens that is what I espouse. I'm not here to get into a
pissing contest with anyone. It's a waste of time. Just offering my 2 cents. [/FONT]
OK, thanks...I think you're muddling things a bit by mixing the belief in *a* god and belief in the bible's veracity, but...to clarify:
Yes, I do believe that the bible is a work of fiction and I have provided plenty of support for that in this thread alone of why I believe that to be the case. If you espouse the same opinion, then surely you know that there is plenty more evidence to support the idea that the bible is fiction. In any event, I didn't start this thread to discuss whether or not the bible is true, but to simply post some of the ridiculously, preposterous stories that you'll find in it.
As to whether or not there is *a* god, I don't know, and I'm absolutely fine with not knowing. It bothers me intellectually that we don't know where we came from or why we're here but saying "I don't think the bible is true" does not mean anything except just that. It is a common misconception that "I don't believe you (or your stories)" is a claim. The people saying there the christian god is the one true god and the bible is true are making the claim, I'm simply refuting it - pretty soundly I might add.
Can’t believe this debate hasn’t settled. I think most have given their opinions, and we will all agree to disagree. AC, you are definitely intelligent. My job is to not judge anyone, I don’t have the credentials. But I apologize for saying you aren’t well read. You definitely are no dummy. We just disagree on the Christ. We are free to believe what we may. One of us will be right. Happy New Year. Didn’t mean to offend.
