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ohio state sucks ass, they do not deserve to even be considered to stink up another BCS bowl. 3 straight they lost by double digits

I understand that arguement, but Ohio St has the best, or second best team on paper this year. They have all american talent almost accros the board. With the addition of Pryor this team could be absolutley dominant.
 

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I understand that arguement, but Ohio St has the best, or second best team on paper this year. They have all american talent almost accros the board. With the addition of Pryor this team could be absolutley dominant.

the shitty thing is man NO ONE ever REALLY knows who the true national championship is because teams do not play the other teams and there is no play off..

after last year, i dont even consider the winner of the bcs game the national champion.. this system is a fuckin popularity contest, it is rediculous.
 

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I understand that arguement, but Ohio St has the best, or second best team on paper this year. They have all american talent almost accros the board. With the addition of Pryor this team could be absolutley dominant.

you could also make a GOOD arguement that they look so good on paper due to A WEAK schedule, and that weak schedule making their stats look ALOT better than they really are.

Im hoping Michigan puts it togheter, i think they will.. and i think they beat OSU but then again i am a :homer:
 

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LSU was arguably the best team in the country last year and STILL lost 2 games. You got to figure they will lose at least 4 this year. They're not even in the discussion for best teams in the country this year.

Also, you have to figure the law of probability is not on their side. Especially considering they have won so many games despite having an absolute MORON for a coach.
 

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When Dorsey was healthy they were the best team in the country and it was not close. After he got hurt they found new ways to win since they couldnt hold team to 3 points.

As far as this year they dont have him at all, they are the 5th best team in the SEC.
 

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It would be hard for you to be more wrong on the LSU statement, i would be SHOCKED if they scored 10 on USC.
 

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Georgia
Florida
LSU

Three best teams in the country by a decent margin.

Early lean to LSU. The only losses these teams will have this season will be against eachother, meaning Ohio St or USC will probably get into the title game and get thumped on.

It's a lot easier to talk about it than it is to schedule a pair of home & home OOC games and prove it. Why don't they PLAY like USC and get out there and show everyone every year so dumb arguments like this don't end up with even dumber excuses?

The last SEC "power" to try it was Arkansas but we won't go there. Before that, Auburn and they didn't bother showing up to play in LA after USC shut them out. They paid off USC $1,000,000 NOT to fulfill their contract. All talk and no show. That's what the SEC believes in because (for the most part,) that's all they ever do.
 

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It's a lot easier to talk about it than it is to schedule a pair of home & home OOC games and prove it. Why don't they PLAY like USC and get out there and show everyone every year so dumb arguments like this don't end up with even dumber excuses?

The last SEC "power" to try it was Arkansas but we won't go there. Before that, Auburn and they didn't bother showing up to play in LA after USC shut them out. They paid off USC $1,000,000 NOT to fulfill their contract. All talk and no show. That's what the SEC believes in because (for the most part,) that's all they ever do.

SEC is the toughest conference schedule out there and with the quality of the teams, you almost always have to take a loss. It's not like playing Stanford and Washington every week. They can't afford to schedule a ton of hard out-of-conference games because the conference games will eat you up and make it hard enough.
 

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SEC is the toughest conference schedule out there and with the quality of the teams, you almost always have to take a loss. It's not like playing Stanford and Washington every week. They can't afford to schedule a ton of hard out-of-conference games because the conference games will eat you up and make it hard enough.
It's good to finally see some of the SEC teams like Auburn, Georgia and Tennessee stepping up to the plate and schduling one good OOC game against decent BCS teams..They all need to start scheduling one a year..Then they can schedule all the fluffballs they want for the rest of the season..But the main thing is the SEC needs to be tested out of conference like everybody else..It's the only way we really know how they stack up with the rest of the conferences. Or other conferences stack up against them.
 

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SEC is the toughest conference schedule out there and with the quality of the teams, you almost always have to take a loss. It's not like playing Stanford and Washington every week. They can't afford to schedule a ton of hard out-of-conference games because the conference games will eat you up and make it hard enough.

Typical all talk
Typical excuse

And NOBODY plays all Stanfords and all Washingtons every week in ANY conference.
 

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Typical all talk
Typical excuse

And NOBODY plays all Stanfords and all Washingtons every week in ANY conference.

It's not just talk if it's factual.

USC had a doozer of an out-of-conference last season with Idaho (the WAC's red headed step child), Nebraska (5-7), and Notre Dame (3-9).

LSU played Virginia Tech (beat them by 41), Middle Tennesseeand Louisiana Tech (comparable to Idaho although a tiny bit better), and Tulane.

Not much difference there. LSU had the OOC edge even though before the season you may not have thought so. These games are scheduled quite a bit in advance, so you can't fault the scheduling really.

Florida this year has Florida St, Miami, Hawaii, and Citadel. Not horrible if you consider that Miami was expected to be studly just a couple years ago.

Arizona St (2nd best team in the Pac-10 other than maybe Oregon) gets Georgia on September 20th at home so we'll learn alot about the two conferences at that point.
 

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It's good to finally see some of the SEC teams like Auburn, Georgia and Tennessee stepping up to the plate and schduling one good OOC game against decent BCS teams..They all need to start scheduling one a year..Then they can schedule all the fluffballs they want for the rest of the season..But the main thing is the SEC needs to be tested out of conference like everybody else..It's the only way we really know how they stack up with the rest of the conferences. Or other conferences stack up against them.

I disagree. The SEC is the most talented division, top-to-bottom, in college football and I'd say there is a decent margin between them and the Big12, Pac-10, or even Big10 which is constantly overrated.

If you had the Cowboys, Colts, Patriots, and Steelers in your own NFL division, you would want to schedule some out-of-conference creampuffs as well.
 

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It's not just talk if it's factual.

USC had a doozer of an out-of-conference last season with Idaho (the WAC's red headed step child), Nebraska (5-7), and Notre Dame (3-9).

LSU played Virginia Tech (beat them by 41), Middle Tennesseeand Louisiana Tech (comparable to Idaho although a tiny bit better), and Tulane.

Not much difference there. LSU had the OOC edge even though before the season you may not have thought so. These games are scheduled quite a bit in advance, so you can't fault the scheduling really.

Florida this year has Florida St, Miami, Hawaii, and Citadel. Not horrible if you consider that Miami was expected to be studly just a couple years ago.

Arizona St (2nd best team in the Pac-10 other than maybe Oregon) gets Georgia on September 20th at home so we'll learn alot about the two conferences at that point.

Cant fault USC for how bad braska and ND have turned.... and i dont think we will learn shit about the pac 10 and sec from the number 1 team in the country in most polls vs on average the number 16 or 17 team with a ton of questions currently. SEC is the best there is no doubt but to say LSU UGA AND UF would beat USC by 10+ blows my mind.. Now that i think about it not sure if even UGA would score 10 against them, i know for sure LSU wouldnt
 

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I disagree. The SEC is the most talented division, top-to-bottom, in college football and I'd say there is a decent margin between them and the Big12, Pac-10, or even Big10 which is constantly overrated.

If you had the Cowboys, Colts, Patriots, and Steelers in your own NFL division, you would want to schedule some out-of-conference creampuffs as well.

If that's how you feel about it then definitely DO NOT schedule any good teams out of the south EVER! It would only mean an extra loss and that would really mess up a good storyline about how good the SEC really is. By all means, stay away from the real teams anywhere else because they will beat you. Play it safe and keep talking about how great the SEC is and how they "would" beat anyone like USC by 10 points. (if they played them... which they won't.) You'd rather argue about it than settle it on the field. That is chickenshit.
 

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I disagree. The SEC is the most talented division, top-to-bottom, in college football and I'd say there is a decent margin between them and the Big12, Pac-10, or even Big10 which is constantly overrated.
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Watch your mouths: Man arrested for internet threat

Woke his punk ass up @ 3am..." It was a joke man, it was a joke"

He is the link for the video..instant death baby food

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In court papers, FDA agent Michael Felezzola wrote that a Gerber representative on April 20 reported a threatening video entitled "gerbersbabyfoodalert" had been posted on YouTube.


In the 10-minute video, apparently recorded in a shower stall, a man identified as Trashman said Gerber employees acting at his direction had poisoned millions of bottles of baby food with the intent to kill babies.


Authorities said the person appearing on the videos was Dunn and he sometimes wore a mask that partially covered his face. Subsequent videos stated that the poisoning would involve cyanide and rat poison, and that four babies had already died.


Dunn, who is black, claimed in a July 24 video that he was trying to kill black and Hispanic babies, though white babies also were likely to die, authorities said.
"Our main reason for doing this is we're trying to cut down on the black population," the video says.

Love how he says...I cant be caught:missingte
 

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Alright, well what evidence do you have to support them not being #1 if you don't agree?

The SEC winner has dominated the #1 team not in their conference the last two years.

What do you have to say that they aren't #1?
 

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It's not just talk if it's factual.

USC had a doozer of an out-of-conference last season with Idaho (the WAC's red headed step child), Nebraska (5-7), and Notre Dame (3-9).

LSU played Virginia Tech (beat them by 41), Middle Tennesseeand Louisiana Tech (comparable to Idaho although a tiny bit better), and Tulane.

Not much difference there. LSU had the OOC edge even though before the season you may not have thought so. These games are scheduled quite a bit in advance, so you can't fault the scheduling really.

Florida this year has Florida St, Miami, Hawaii, and Citadel. Not horrible if you consider that Miami was expected to be studly just a couple years ago.

Arizona St (2nd best team in the Pac-10 other than maybe Oregon) gets Georgia on September 20th at home so we'll learn alot about the two conferences at that point.

Now you are cherry picking. More excuses and slanted facts. Try going back to 2000 and make a list of all the OOC games and you will see why the LSU's and Floridas and even Auburn etc. don't want to travel. UGA and Tennessee and Arkansas are the ONLY exceptions. I don't see anything any better about the SEC compared to anyone when they play anyone. I could name at least TWICE as many wins by USC over out of conference opponents who RANKED than all of the SEC OOC wins put together vs similar opposition. Add in the bowl games and the SEC still barely has a winning margin.

They don't travel because they KNOW for sure that their luster would wear off because much of the time they lose the big games. Take out OSU and the SEC has a losing record to the B-10. Can't have that bad PR.... so just play it safe and don't play them.

Now really, compared to other strong teams from around the USA, who in the SEC compares to USC?
 

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