These games are fixed...& I'll tell you why..

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First Time posting picks in quite a long time. I do not nearly spend the same amount money that some of the regulars of this site spend on games and so I understand if other out there do not take what I am saying here very seriously. But it is something that I have studied for a long time and feel there is some merit to. Because Im in Canada and do not care to venture out to more offshore types of gaming, I usually play pro-line. However since this board is mainly a U.S. oriented environment, I will stick to Casino lines. I have noticed however that proline lines are usually a few points off of the normal vegas lines and this is something that should be kept in mind if you are someone who plays both kinds of gambling....


The main point I want to make clear is that these games are fixed...I am not going to get into a long debate about how they manage to do it...as this is neither the time or place to do so....It is quite complex and it is understood how crazy that sounds but I beg the reader to consider the history of sports and mafia and all the scandals that have been uncovered and to ask yourself what else can be uncovered that we have not been exposed to? Politics is rigged, Religion is rigged, Wars are rigged and my friends I am afraid Sports is no different. I am not saying this because I lost money that I needed to pay my college tuition for or something like that. I am not a heavy gambler. In the future however I do plan to wager more as I am beginning to realize that once you understand the rigged aspect of professional sports, you can generate quite a lot of money in a short period of time. There is a reason why they are called "Wiseguys". They've got Wisdom...but not the kind of wisdom you get from your Pops or your Highschool football coach....There is a reason why these guys will fork down 30 grand on a "public" looser and its not just because they have access to inside information. It is complex and yet so simple when you figure this out. These men understand that the world is a business....why else would you have American helicopters built in Tawain..? The public is given a certain perception of the world...while the truth is kept to the select few people who are fotunate enough to be privy to it...Hence it truly is not WHAT you know but WHO you know....


The so called experts on politics spend x amount of hours telling you who and how certain politicians are going to win certain elections only to have the Supreme court and electronic machines decide "who" really won....In the same vein we have ESPN and CNNSI telling you all week how great Tom Brady is and how wonderful Michael Vick is how the Falcons will cover by 5 this weekend and how terrible Washington is and how Dallas has now turned it around. They ignore games that involved unpopular favourites like St Louis and Buffalo and focus on the hi profile games of which the favourite always covers....

The PERCEPTION of the PUBLIC is what the media have always been able to manipulate and when you can do that you can create the reality you wish the world to perceive when in fact the truth of the matter is something completely different. They highlight elections every four years to give you the PERCEPTION that the people select Presidents when in fact the truth of the matter is that the Council on Foreign Relations choose who becomes President...not you. The perception that the public has in sports is that if team A beats a team B one week, it is because they are simply better than that team...When team A goes out and looses or barely wins the next week against the worse team C the public is shocked and less richer than they were the week before. Why? Because the perception the public had of team A was inflated by 2 things..

A) the peformance of that team the week before

B) the accolades the media gave to that particular team during the week

The fixing of NFL games is accomplished through very covert and sometimes overt ways which I will not get into here as it is beyond the scope of most people. However in regards to how they do it I will say this...it is not the way you think...to control the many all you have to do is control the few....

By creating certain perceptions of different teams from week to week, the sports books who are complicit in the scam can manipulate the public's choices on every single game. The idea goal of course is to make sure the House wins and the House always wins along with the "Wise" guys who are also complicit in the scam. There are certain characteristics a fixed game will have that you can look for.....

1) The favourite will usually go down very early 7 - 0 or 3 - 0. The favourite usually is far superior and is quite capable of punishing the opposing team but refuses to do so. The score will remain so until which point the tide will suddenly change. This usually happens in the fourth quarter....and depending on what has been "decided"....the faourite will either loose outright or at the very least not "COVER"....The dead give away of a fixed game is in the switch that happens during the game and because not all the players are in on this scam, it will be shocking to the team who ends up blowing a 14 point lead...The game I am sure you all remember all to well....

Chicago 24 Arizona 23

Bettors have always attributed this kind of game to the favourite simply not trying hard enough...the pererbial "looking ahead". If so, then why not look ahead against all the other bottom of the barrel teams? Why did Chicago not look ahead last week when Frisco rolled into town? because back to back fixed games can be spotted a lot easier. The Books can make much more money in the long run if they space it out. Have a team cover one week then pulled the rug out from under the Sammy the Square the next week....

Indianapolis 14, Tennessee 13 - Week 5
Indianapolis 36, Washington 22 - Week 7

Washington was the sexy pic, The public money would have been on Indianapolis...why did they cover? Because the timing called for it...Indy had already taken a dive 2 weeks before against the Titans who despite their improved offense had no business leading the Colts offense into the 4th quarter...What I am saying here is that each week certain teams have been selected to cover and or not cover based on pecking order...There some out there who believe that if the public is on a team, you should automatically assume the dog is going to cover...

Denver 17, Cleveland 7 - Week 7

Why did Denver cover if that is the case? Because they had taken a dive in a rigged game the week before...

Denver 13, Oakland 3 - Week 6

Now one element of this Rigged System that I have not discussed is the aspect of the "FOLLOWING WEEK". When ever you are deciding whether or not to dog or favourite a particular game, find out who those teams are playing the next week and perhaps the week after. Rememer the name of the game is "PERCEPTION". If Cleveland beats or covers against Denver in week 7, how does that effect the PUBLICS perception of that team the following week? How does the House benefit from Cleveland winning or covering against Denver in week 7? Who did Cleveland cover against in week 8?

Cleveland 20, N.Y. Jets 13

By having Cleveland get beat in week 7, it creates the perception that they were incapable of beating the Jets who covered and won against Detroit. So what if the Jets covered and won in Week 7. It was a LOW KEY game that the public likely was not paying attention to. A low key game is a game between too teams that the public does not focus on and neither does the media. These are the games you will find that favourites tend to cover. And this brings me to another aspect of the Rigged System...THE UNPOPULAR FAVOURITE...if popular favourites likely do not cover...what do unpopular favourites do? You can always tell who the unpopular favourite is because they likely have not beein the spotlight over the past few weeks...they usually come in under the radar. The Line will usually sit between 3 and 6 and not move...and the dog will receive a very large percentage of the money put on this game...

Cincinnati 17, Carolina 14 - Week 7
Kansas City 35, Seattle 28 - Week 8

The media will do nothing but criticize the team throughout the week and the bettors will be scared shitless of them...There is a gentlemen on this board by the name of WallStreetGenius who has brought forth some very pertinent information of which I believe many should pay attention to as it is something I myself have been noticing because it ties in with what I am talking about here...It is these very UNPOPULAR FAVOURITES that receive the large percentage ML action just before tip off. The line doesn't move and the public is none the wiser...because the action is hidden.
Lets take a look at Week 9 based on the previous things I have talked about...keep in mind that we must pay attention to the perceptions that the public has of the teams going into this weekends matchups and the perceptions they will have going into next weekends matchups and what that will mean to the Sports Books..

- 4.5 Minnesota @ San Francisco
- Again, the perception of the 49ers is very unfavourable. The public is not focussed on this team. The key to understanding where this game is going is in who the vikings play next week...and how does the house benefit from a San Francisco win. obviously the Vikings get the highest percentage. Will the Outfit throw away money with such ease? Of course not. They are banking on the perception of Friscos beating at the hands of the bears last week to completely push the public toward Minnesota but who does Minnesota play next week....Green Bay at home in what will be considered a LOW PROFILE game....The House is going to steal the publics money on this one...and that is the point..

San Francisco + 5...THE UNPOPULAR DOG...is the play


Miami at Chicago - 13.5/14.5 / Pro-Line Bears - 16.5 - The House threw away money last week as the Bears squashed the Niners. Why? Because it was supposed to happen. This week they are not supposed to cover. I want you to watch this game closely and watch the wasted opportunities to score the Bears squander. The House is again is stealing money....because thats the point...

Miami & the points- THE UNPOPULAR DOG...is the play

-3.5 Dallas @ Washington - Again, before we even attempt at figuring which way to go on this game we must consider who the teams are playing the following weekand then how this will affect the House.

Dallas @ Arizona - Week 10
Washington @ Philadelphia - Week 10 -
As you can see, Dallas will be playing one of the worst teams in the league next week. If Dallas were to win this week, the PERCEPTION the public has of Dallas would be highly favourable and the media would be salivating over how much "improved" they are since the benching of Drew Bledsoe. Who in their right mind would take Arizona in a situation like that with the way they've been playing as of late? Imagine how well the House would do if Dallas were to somehow "Cough" this one up?

So does this mean Dallas is the play this week? Not necessarily because as WallStreet has told us, the we must always be aware of the percentages and where the juice is going and obviously it isn't going to the Skins...which is why the line opened up at (-3) and then moved to -(3.5). The extra half point is the House's insurance policy and will ensure those not "Wise" enough to lay off the skins at current number will pay for it....Washington is an extremely unpopular dog and thus a House favourite...

Washinton + 3.5 - THE UNPOPLAR DOG is the play



Denver @ Pittsbugh - 2.5 - Again here we are faced with another extremely Unpopular favourite. And Denver team who may very well receive a larger percentage of the juice. The media has been fading Pitt all week. The PERCEPTION, the public now has of Pittsburgh is preventing them of seeing what I guess can be considered a diamond in the rough so to speak. If the public is on Denver, Imagine how well the House will do if Pittsburgh wins. As you may often find in the NFL...Ask not what your team can do for you but what it can do for the HOUSE...They have been setting this one up for weeks with losses to Atlanta and a mediocre Oakland team....

Pittsburgh - 2.5 - THE UNPOPULAR FAVOURITE is the play

RECAP

San Francisco + 5
Miami + 14.5
Washington + 3.5
Pittsburgh - 2.5
 
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THANKS FOR THE LONG READ HOPE IT WAS WORTH IT I WILL FOLLOW THE PLAYS AS I AGREE THE N ational F ixed L eague (NFL) is fixed id bet anything on it.
 

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Very Interesting . I Hate To Think Things Are Fixed , But Who Knows. If We Knew That For Sure How Come We Are Not Up Major Cash
 

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Loren,
very well put and i couldnt agree with you more. Really anybody that doesnt believe sports arent fixed, yet every other aspect of society has corruption in it, really is living in a dream world.
I really get some good laughs when i hear people say no way could sports ever be fixed. Why these people think that sports is so beyond being corrupt really amazes me. Sports betting is a 13 billion a year business, do they really believe the power brokers behind the scenes arent gonna make sure they get that cash, lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.
Personally i dont care that the games are fixed because i still have a 50-50 chance of landing on the winning side and there really aint to many bets you can make in life that give you a 50-50 chance.
Heres all you need to know about gambling

HUMANS + MONEY = GREED AND CORRUPTION
Just look at wallstreet, those people make millions and billions of dollars, yet they still try to make more illegally.
For some people there is never enough money and they will always want more.
 

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Loren, thanks for the post and I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. I get bashed plenty on here for thinking games are fixed but I am positive they are. People's rationale rang from "why do they need the money" to "it would take too many people". I know some games are fixed. Money is a powerful force and it runs the world, a world which sports are a part of. You guys ever watch Wall Street where Charlie Sheen asks Michael Douglas, "How much is enough"? When you have millions, there is not an "enough".
 

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I have watched the tape at the bottom of ESPN when they preview the NFL or NCAA games. It will be Team A vs. Team B. Team B's QB 5-1 all time vs. Team A. This is the kind of stuff my man is talking about here. Check it out Sunday morning and make a few notes. Team A will cover
 
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TO LOREN 78;

AN INTRESTING READ INDEED, AND I WANT TO DISCUSS THIS QUOTE YOU PRESENTED.
The main point I want to make clear is that these games are fixed...I am not going to get into a long debate about how they manage to do it...as this is neither the time or place to do so....It is quite complex
YOU SAY THE ART OF FIXING GAMES IS QUITE COMPLEX. CAN YOU PLEASE PRESENT US WITH A BRIEF EXAMPLE OF AN ACTUAL FIXED GAME THAT TOOK PLACE, AND EXPLAIN THE COMPLEXITY OF THAT "FIXED GAME", WE HAVE ALL DAY, AND I AM CURIOUS TO LEARN MORE.
WITHOUT FACTUAL INFORMATION, ONE CAN ALSO ASSUME THAT UFO'S DO EXIST, BIG FOOT IS HOPPING AROUND IN SOME NEARBY FOREST, AND LOCH NESS IS ALIVE AND WELL. IN EACH OF THOSE CASES, NOBODY HAS STEPPED FOWARD WITH ANY PHYSICAL PROOF OR EVIDENCE OF THEIR EXIISTANCE.SO NOW IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT YOUR EVIDENCE TO BACK YOUR STATEMENT.
I APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK.

BROOKLYNWORM
 

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I don't know if I believe in the "fix" or not, but it sure did look like the Patriots and Vikings were trying to stay under the line total, last Monday night. ??????????????:icon_conf
 

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There are no fixes in pro sports here in the U.S. They make too much money and it would never be worth it to them. No way. College it happens some, I'm sure, but never in the NFL or MLB, or NBA. No way.
 

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Fixes happen, but not very often. Pro sports exist largely because of gambling. But the athletes make way more playing than they ever could fixing. And in college sports, believe it or not, in the U.S, most of the fans don't gamble, and have never gambled on it. It's mostly pure, except for when Toledo plays UConn in bowl games. Any one game has the potential to be fixed, and I'm sure we haven't seen the last of fixed games. But it's not a widespread problem.
 

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For those of you who don't believe games are fixed, look at European soccer to find out how many of those teams have been caught on the fix. If you think there is too much money (as I had once thought) you may be interested to know that the most popular soccer team in Italy, Juventus, was recently caught fixing games. Those players make millions yet the games were fixed.

Let's say a person wanted to fix a game. Why would they want to do it except to make money? But you ask, can a person really make much money by fixing games? You would have to have lots and lots of people putting down huge amounts of money just to pay the players and teams to fix the games. I wouldn't think that would be possible. Yet look at my example of Juventus to see that major league sports can be fixed.
 

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really why do some of you believe that athletes cant be bought just because of how much money they make.
My God just look at the people on wall street, who make way more then athletes, yet these guys are always looking for more corrupt money to make.
For some reason alot of people keep putting athletes on some pedestal.
Every single apsect of society if there is humans and money involved you will find corruption, but i guess athletes to some of you are the elite most honest people in the world, lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll. Some of you really do crack me and i bet alot of you dream about your hero athletes. I wish that i could live in the perfect no corruption world alot of you live in.
Look at martha stewart, she was worth over a billion dollars, she cost herself jail time and the loss of a few hundred million in stock value, all because she wanted to cheat and make an extra couple hundred thousand. Yup that was a great tradeoff.
Its called greed my friends, we all have it inside of us and it doesnt matter what job you perform in life or how much money you make, if theres a chance to make more money, then the temptation will always be there to be corrupted.
Remember this , it only takes 1 player to mess up a game, but its the refs who are really doing the dirty deed, they have all the power and all it takes is a flag everytime a team makes a good play.
Over 13 billion a year is bet on sports just offshore, thats alot of money.
But hey this is why our country is great we can all have our own opinions, me am a realist and see things for how they really are.
good luck today and may all your games be winners.
 

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There are fixes that occur or that are attempted whether the fix 'works out' in the game or not. I do not doubt that. I strongly believe it is not a widespread conspiracy. Yes, there are actual documented stories of corruption in the top US sports.... from the black sox scandal to present day college hoops, etc.

But two quotes make me realize that there may be errors in judgement shown in this thread....there were more but these two will do....

"why else would you have American helicopters built in Tawain..?"

this above quote and

"My God just look at the people on wall street, who make way more then athletes, yet these guys are always looking for more corrupt money to make."

Both speak to a lack of understanding, in my honest opinion. I know people on 'Wall Street' and I was also a broker at one time. Like anywhere, some are corrupt but most are not. Wow.
The truth is not all or nothing, in most cases, so if you want to find it or get as close as any can get to the truth then you pretty much have to drop the opinions similar to the following (we've all heard 'em):

'all politicians are bribed every day and they all make huge personal fortunes by chumming around with all the corrupt oil company execs, who, by the way, have killed all the people that tried to patent engine designs that would use little or no petroleum....'

Yes, I agree with you guys. Probably, many games in the NFL have been fixed in the past but there is no conspiracy. By far, most NFL games have not been fixed, in my opinion. Can I prove that? No. Can I prove that the sun will come up tomorrow? No.

Good luck.

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I've always been interested in college hoops. I'm not saying teams throw games. I'm talking about the 15 point favorite that makes a few bad passes and takes dumb shots while up by 10-14 points in the final minutes of the game. I'm guessing this doesn't happen often, but I sometimes wonder.....
 

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moethepuppy, I am with you...you just wonder sometimes when you are watching a game.

I have never mentioned on this board and won't up top and I have no 'proof' nor do I even have a strong opinion....just a strong feeling and that's it:

Don't hold it against me but I really felt that the Atl Falcons/NO Saints was really fishy. I watched the game and became very angry as I watched the Atl Falcons DEFENSE just fold up shop and leave running lanes that were six trucks wide! I wonder if the league didn't say to the Falcons, please, just act like its a scrimmage and let's help this city out here..... AND yes, I had the Falcons BIG.

People do make fun of anyone that says such, and I don't want to be abused for thinking 'just maybe' ...... but I do think 'just maybe'.

Good luck.

tulsa
 

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Kornholio said:
There are no fixes in pro sports here in the U.S. They make too much money and it would never be worth it to them. No way. College it happens some, I'm sure, but never in the NFL or MLB, or NBA. No way.

What a jerkweed
 

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Betting with the books and against the public is obviously a good long term strategy but if you are trying to say that the games are fixed because of wiseguy/mob payoffs still...well that is laughable. It would be a lot easier and more profitable to sell cocaine or herion. Also I've heard people say the NFL is staged and give the example of that Monday Night game in New Orleans. That is just as stupid.
 

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