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At the time that BoDog decided to stiff MW, I saw the actual contract. They claimed something to the tune of that they "didn't get what they wanted" out of the advertising.

It was a while back, but I believe that the payment due was for advertising which they had already received(I want to say it was for the previous 3 or 6 months).

They also tried to make it sound like "this happens all the time" regarding advertising in this industry.

They are just one more book on my "Why would you play there when there are so many other honest books" out there.

If they stiff someone for advertising, how could you say that the players aren't next? Has Oly or Pinnacle ever stiffed someone for advertising? I highly, highly doubt it.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Truthteller:

You're a bitch. Tell me something. Do you work for MW, do you work for BoDog?

If you don't, try to explain why you thought posting this shit in the RX forum was gonna help any of the parts involved...
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I don't work for either site you moron. I posted this to let everyone know what kind a scammer is running Bodog.

Many people wouldn't trust an indivudal that was banned by the Canadian government for fraud on a trading exchange. Neither would they trust someone that stiffed a company on their advertising deal.

Now to you fuknuts, the guy at AM/PM doesn't hold my post up money!!

I can't stand the Major but that doesn't mean Bodog had a right to stiff him.
 
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patrick McIrish:
Minnow - why is it you come over only on certain issues? You get a PM asking for your help from someone? Every single time BoDog comes up nowadays here you are. Had a post up since April about BoDog you never made one comment on until just recently. I have never seen any sort of interest from you on BoDog but now you can't stay away from any post having anything to do with them. Ever since your boss and BoDog had a disagreement you can't fan the flames enough it seems. Talk about it over there if you want to get in this crap.

I don't have anything against you and in fact I look up to you, you and Joe were two of the best moderators from when I started posting around these parts. Always said so. But geez come over here ALL the time and speak on issues good and bad. Cherry picking certain things hoping to make Shrink or someone else look bad doesn't seem your style, at least it didn't use to. I've gotten hot and had one notable blow-up over there which I could have handled better but it's starting to look like you make a calculated plan to come over here and start trouble or make us look bad. I don't go over and instigate when I think you guys are off the mark, for me to do that I need to go over there and prop you when you do things good. It's called calling things fairly. If you are under pressure to come respond to this silliness and insult us than please forgive me, maybe you have no choice. Just weird you try hard to keep garbage off your site but it's okay to come over here and do the same thing? You know what we are up against as moderators?

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Boy.....rough Monday Patrick?
 
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Now to you fuknuts, the guy at AM/PM doesn't hold my post up money!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Uhhhhh...You are concerned about Bodog, but, you have money posted up with them??

Damn, you are not too bright truthteller.there are lots of other books out there, i swear.. Why would you have sent them money with all of these concerns you have???

My advice, take your money elsehwere if it's causing so much anxiety.
Someone here will explain how thats done if you ask nice.
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Butternuts,

I don't have any money with that stiff book. Actually I don't have any money with any book in CR. That was just a general reference.
 

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Tin - no I had a great day why? I think the time is right for us to call a spade a spade. Paid employee rolling over from a rival site pretending to be interested in only "correcting" things has gone beyond comic. We will try and keep it cleaned up but we have a lot of pride in our home as well, won't make any apologies over defending it.


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Minnow - Sorry I missed your response. First off I don't think you lost any friends. You are pretty good at the Miss Innocent act. If either of them want to speak to you about it that is up to them. Between us I think it looks bad when we bicker but maybe it is part of your job. I think you are here more because someone wants you to be rather than on your own, if you say no I will take your word for it. Here's a few questions though I really want to know your opinion on. If you want you can e-mail them to me if you bother to answer....


- Do you want the garbage between the sites to end? Or do you want it to continue? I know the answer for your boss, what do you think? If not why are you here?

- You say you come to "correct" us but what purpose does it really serve? If BoDog is piss-poor let the readers decide. Input from you and Russ is clearly not objective and takes away from what the posters have to say. If you can't see why people would doubt your sincerity on BoDog I don't know what to tell you. You seem like a sweetheart but hard for me to swallow your interest in BoDog is just a coincidence.
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- Should all of us paid employees be around to "set the record straight" at the other sites as you claim? I only ask because I never see Grandfather over here? Or Total Square? Or MJH? Or Louis Cypher? I never see our guys over there "correcting" you or Russ. I'm not being facetious but in your opinion do you think it's best I patrol your site and "correct" you guys if I deem it necessary? Personally I thought it was a disgrace to tell a man like Black Lab he is lying about having a sick father, calling him a cheat, a liar and a thief. This from the owner of a site about a poster all in the main forum? However not only did I not go over and "correct" anybody I stayed out if it entirely. Even when Seven and other respected posters bashed Russ about it I did not bother to chime in on my own. Even though the whole thing was disgusting to read and it was posted over here.

- Should I defend myself over there every time? From the moment I started here I have been called a sell-out, bought off for money etc.... You know the routine if anyone ever does anything your boss doesn't like. Think SBR sold out on CRIS over a dinner from Micky according to your place. I was once again in the spotlight yesterday. Since I am here and your boss doesn't like it I will be continually bashed. Why not "correct" that? Though it's easy to ignore since I have no respect for the person who says it, should I be responding like you do? If Ken was here using your name with some of these allegations I would almost guarantee you would be over here screaming and hollering.

- Why not argue the issues instead it's always about money or someone being "paid off". Nobody is more suspicious of their spouse having an affair then one already involved in one. If I was a Shrink I would call that projection. They are trying to rationalize based on their own life what other people would do. A few extra $$$ in my wallet means squat to me if I have to sell my soul for it. The most common refrain is always you have changed or sold out for the money if anyone disagrees with you people. A dinner with Micky, mod pay or whatever. If there is ever any meat to any of this stuff address those things in the future and leave the cheapshots alone. Is that unreasonable?


In closing I really want to hear what you have to say Minnow. I have done my very best to not get involved in this but I have to tell you I am not going to let this stuff from you continue on without responding. I like this place and I am proud of what we are doing here. We've got a ways to go but we don't waste our time over your place looking to "correct" you guys. Not enough time in the day as it is. Hope this doesn't offend you but knock off the innocent poster routine here to check us out.

BTW I missed your response about your involvement in the hacking of our boardroom? Seems you would want to "correct" that as well.
 

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I won about $1600 in free gambling accounts at Bodog for winning free sports monitor's college football capping contest last year. Made two hard check withdrawls both totaling over 2k. In one case, got the check next day, the other check came in two days.

I'm not sure about people claiming slow plays because that has certainly NOT been my experience with them. Their college football lines were a little slow last year....my only complaint with them.
 

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Wonder why Bodog is receiving such positive press?
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It should be noted too that THE GOLD SHEET is VERY PICKY about who they allow to advertise with them...

Just take a look at the other names besides BODOG...(CANBET, WWTS & PINNACLE)...

My main point all along is that an advertising dispute HAS NO BEARING on a sports book's ability to pay out...

This from gambling 911...

BoDog had ESPN in Their office in Canada for a whole day last week. "They flew up a photographer and a reporter and we are going to be prominently profiled in an article in late July," according to CEO Cole Turner. 911 photographers were also on site and will have exclusive "shots behind the shots" photos available as soon as ESPN approves their release. ESPN will not allow any shots of them putting the story together to be released until after the article is out. ESPN picked BoDog for this because of its high media profile in the past 12 months and the hip and edgy name...

06.28.03 (7:14 pm ET) -Bodog agrees to terms with "The Gold Sheet" for 2003-4 sports season. BoDog now endorsed by every major reputable organization in our industry, and 911 was there right at the start when nobody knew them. BoDog will join other industry leaders such as CanBet, WWTS and Pinnacle as an advertiser. BoDog President Rob Gillespie is quoted as saying "We are proud to do an advertising deal with an industry Icon like The Gold Sheet. We invited them to visit us last year and did the radio show with them and really liked our experience. We are looking forward to an exciting year."
 

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Truthteller:

I used to read your posts, thinking they might have had some substance, something. But after a while I realized there was NADA in them. NADA.

You basically bash C.R. books at every given chance, founding your rants on their location. If you were a little smarter, you would at least read the history of the biggest sportsbook fiascos in the forums. You would then realize that the vast majority of books that went down BIG, taking BIG players bucks with them were NOT in C.R.

SO , there you have it. So much for your so called reasoning.

And let me completely clear about this. I do NOT work for BoDog
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. The matter of the fact is I don't give a flying fvck about a business relationship gone sour between the Major and BoDog.

You don't even play there. You don't know all the facts. Your statements are gratuitous at best. Let Major post the facts if he considers them useful for the offshore players.

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DPO:

Nah brother, that would be an insult to the good ole SPIVE aka Simple Game. She at least was a smart cookie, anal as a thong... but smart.

BTW, has she been unbanned yet? Kindda miss her.
 

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Walk Of Life,

I do not bash only CR books. I bash ALMOST every book that's located in unregulated third world countries. If you looked at my posts you would see I recommended DelMar when they were accepting post up. And that's the only book I would recommend since the owner is the most honest person in this biz.

You work in one of these 3rd world books so i understand you have to defend them every chance you get.
I agree, books that went down were not only located in CR. However, a vast majority of scam operations still come from CR.

Major post the facts I just repeated them for the posters who don't visit MW.

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Sorry truthteller...

This post removed for litigation is occurring between two sides and we are not going to get involved...

THE SHRINK

[This message was edited by THE SHRINK on July 04, 2003 at 07:27 AM.]
 

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Is a little scary. I think the key is are they making money? Even a crook will keep a business legit if he is making a lot of money at it. The question for a player is why risk it?
 

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Good point. If any of what I'm reading at the other sites is true it would seem that a trend is surfacing and that can't be good for the players.
 

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Shrink,

Why the fck did you take down that article.

"This post removed for litigation is occurring between two sides and we are not going to get involved..." SHRINK

What a bunch of horsecrap. That article has nothing to do MW. It showed what kind of individual is running Bodog.

Isn't this what this site is supposed to be about? Guess not when it comes to books that fill your pocket each month. You use this site to further your own interest rather than help players.

[This message was edited by truthteller on July 06, 2003 at 09:03 AM.]
 

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