A) Sometimes 22-year-old kids don't tell their parents things. Do you know he asked them for their opinion?
B) If he did tell them, they most likely warned him not to do it.
All that to say, you have absolutely no clue what they did or did not tell him but you are blaming them based on pure conjecture.
From the Department of State:
https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/alertswarnings/north-korea-travel-warning.html
It took me 10 seconds to find all I need to know about traveling to North Korea.
https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/alertswarnings/north-korea-travel-warning.html
It took me 10 seconds to find all I need to know about traveling to North Korea.
See, this is where liberal arguments fall apart. When people actually press regarding details. In post #37, you said the previous administration warned Warmbier about traveling to NK. The previous administration DID NOT specifically warn this young man not to go to NK. You are implying they phoned/emailed/texted/sent a telegram to him telling him NOT to go to NK. That's not what happened.
The state department routinely puts out travel warnings regarding travel to certain areas. I can guarantee you 95% of the U.S. does not know the state department does this nor do they know where to look. Are you telling me a 22-year-old kid knows to go to the state department website to check on travel restrictions? That's absurd.
So just admit in post #37, you are mistaken and misleading. No administration told this young man NOT to go to NK. That didn't happen like you're making it out to be.
What an intellectually dishonest post.
Of course Warmbier wasn't warned personally, and I never said he was. Your "argument" is ridiculous, again. He was warned as part of the general warnings that I posted above. If a UVa graduate is unaware that North Korea is a dangerous country to visit, his parents and his education failed him tremendously.
I don't like to name call, but you are an idiot. No reasonable person would think that my post "implied" that the Obama administration personally warned Mr. Warmbier. For you to argue that makes you an idiot.
The Obama administration, and probably every administration all the way back to Truman's, warned all Americans not to travel to North Korea. ALL AMERICANS. Warmbier, being an American, was warned. It is not that hard, for most.
After reviewing this entire thread, I can see why you hold the position you do: It is because you identify personally with this situation, and you see Warmbier, Jr. as your son, and yourself as Warmbier, Sr.
Your son is likely a fuck-up. You describe it in the quoted post. And, seriously, how could he avoid it? You are a person who spends hours on end on a gambling message board (25,000 posts) and calls people an "abortion," a "douche," and describes people's comments as "fucking dumb," just in this thread! Why do you think he ignores your advice? What an example you have been for 18 years!
Since your 18-year-old son isn't following your advice, it obviously hurts you, and you have rationalized the Warmbier's plight to be the same as your own, so you sympathize with them and defend them.
Funny stuff on so many levels as you've made so many assumptions in your posts on this topic it's actually entertaining. Again, you don't know what the father did/did not do in regards to advising his son about NK. You've made the assumption he actually spoke to his father about traveling to NK which may/may not be true. Basically, you don't have a clue. You deal in assumptions, I deal in facts and the fact is you don't know any of this. You guessed but have no idea.
25K posts over a 10 year period. Again, you're having a problem with context just as you did when you said the administration warned Warmbier not to go to NK.
The one thing I've never done on this site is attack or discuss fellow poster's families. To me, it's off limits. I guess that's ok for you. Good for you. I hope you have a great family and they have their health. I wouldn't ever say a word about them.
