There is no way Lebron loses this championship

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I would say every single title Lebron has ever won was against a team that was better then his team 2 to 15.

Every single one

 

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The obvious answer to this is that when Lebron came in the league that the east didn't have any competition for Lebron, like the Pistons were there when Jordan was building up to that point.

Ah, fuck it, Lebron can have his little title. He ruined the NBA with his pussy join superstar culture. Soft league and garbage product now, IMO.

I would not blame the last part on lebron .
Thats just a big flaw in the collective bargaining agreement .

This is a big problem and it makes it difficult for me to be anything more then a casual fan of the sport .

But I’m not gonna blame Lebron for that

 

[PatsFan1283]

The actual facts don't back this up.

I went back and looked up one of Jordan's Bulls' rosters that lost to the Pistons and their PER ratings around him were significantly worse than any team Lebron has ever played on.

This debate is old so I'm not going to go back and look it up but look at PER ratings for old Jordan teams and then compare them to what Lebron was playing with. Lebron had more talent even early in Cleveland than Jordan had until Pippen arrived in Chicago.

Why would PER be the main metric you look at when the Bulls were a great defensive team which doesn't measure PER?

They had a very good supporting cast for the 90's expansion era which watered down the teams compared to the 80's superteams. That is why they won 55 games (while adding Kukoc) the next year after Jordan retired despite losing the best player of all time.

 

[pathologist]

Jordan’s teams 2 to 15 on all 6 of his championships were better teams them any team Lebron James ever played on .

I don’t know how the narrative somehow turned into Jordan was a one man show that carried his team alone to all these titles while James basically played rent an all star team his entire career when the actual truth is the opposite .

Every single team Lebron has ever played on was flawed in a big way including this years team.

Terrible post

 

[soli]

Lebron is not a top 10 player of all time. I have seen him drive the lane at the end of a playoff game and kick it out for a long jumper too many times. It is one thing if he is passing to someone under the basket. He is soft.

This how you can qualify yourself as being Dumb.

 

[KennyB]

My opinion. Lebron is a pussy. I don't insult you so don't insult me. I have been watching basketball for 50 years. I look for guys that are real leaders and heart. Jordan, Kobe, Bird, Barkley for starters. I could get to 10.

 

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Terrible post

Terrible post

 

[Knightrofins]

Spo and Riley gonna get in his head.

its AD who is gonna have to dominate

 

[StevieRay]

 

[soli]

My opinion. Lebron is a pussy. I don't insult you so don't insult me. I have been watching basketball for 50 years. I look for guys that are real leaders and heart. Jordan, Kobe, Bird, Barkley for starters. I could get to 10.

That wasn't an insult, My opinion.

 

[PatsFan1283]

yeah, Barkley really epitomized heart during his career. What a gamer. He stayed in shape for like 8 years and forced trades twice. The basketball version of Tom Brady? ehh

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

 

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I don’t know how people have got the opinion over the years that MJs teams sucked .

He had a tremendous team around him at every position with lots of depth .

Heck they almost got to the finals the next season without him when he was playing baseball.


Think about that for a second .

The bulls almost got to the finals without MJ.


When Lebron left Cleveland they were the worst team in the NBA the next season.

When Lebron left Miami they were the worst team in the NBA the next season .

When Lebron left Cleveland again they were the worst team in the nba the next season again .

But when Jordan left to play baseball the bulls almost made it to the finals without him .

But yet somehow everyone thinks the bulls sucked besides him and Lebron played on all star teams

 

[KennyB]

Wilt? Magic? Kareem? I could name 10 better than Lebron.

 

[Louie12]

I don’t know how people have got the opinion over the years that MJs teams sucked .

He had a tremendous team around him at every position with lots of depth .

Heck they almost got to the finals the next season without him when he was playing baseball.


Think about that for a second .

The bulls almost got to the finals without MJ.


When Lebron left Cleveland they were the worst team in the NBA the next season.

When Lebron left Miami they were the worst team in the NBA the next season .

When Lebron left Cleveland again they were the worst team in the nba the next season again .

But when Jordan left to play baseball the bulls almost made it to the finals without him .

But yet somehow everyone thinks the bulls sucked besides him and Lebron played on all star teams

Dont try telling MJ dick riders that. they dont like that.

lebron is gonna finish with more points than mj and more assists than magic lol


lebron is the greatest ever.

 

[VIEJODINOSAUR]

Don’t understand all the hate for LeBron.....I am not a big fan of his but even I can see the greatness....Top five power forwards of all time...you can’t compare him with NBA centers..

 

[VIEJODINOSAUR]

I have the Heat in the series....

 

[JavyBaez9]

Why would PER be the main metric you look at when the Bulls were a great defensive team which doesn't measure PER?

They had a very good supporting cast for the 90's expansion era which watered down the teams compared to the 80's superteams. That is why they won 55 games (while adding Kukoc) the next year after Jordan retired despite losing the best player of all time.

Those teams in the early Jordan days were terrible. Worse than Lebron's Cavs.

 

[JavyBaez9]

I don’t know how people have got the opinion over the years that MJs teams sucked .

He had a tremendous team around him at every position with lots of depth .

Heck they almost got to the finals the next season without him when he was playing baseball.


Think about that for a second .

The bulls almost got to the finals without MJ.


When Lebron left Cleveland they were the worst team in the NBA the next season.

When Lebron left Miami they were the worst team in the NBA the next season .

When Lebron left Cleveland again they were the worst team in the nba the next season again .

But when Jordan left to play baseball the bulls almost made it to the finals without him .

But yet somehow everyone thinks the bulls sucked besides him and Lebron played on all star teams

Lakers in 2018-2019 adding Lebron - 37-45

Lakers in 2017-2018 without Lebron - 35-47

Lebron is not the best player on his team right now. Just saying.

 

[Louie12]

Those teams in the early Jordan days were terrible. Worse than Lebron's Cavs.

And Jordan took them nowhere. Jordan never carried a team the way Lebron did

How were the Bulls when MJ played baseball

How were the Cavs any year in the last two decades when Lebron wasn't there

 

[Louie12]

Lakers in 2018-2019 adding Lebron - 37-45

Lakers in 2017-2018 without Lebron - 35-47

Lebron is not the best player on his team right now. Just saying.

thats just so dumb on so many levels. lebron is the best player in the NBA right now. Take lebron off the lakers and see what happens

Lakers missed the playoffs last year because lebron got injured and his team SUCKED. he went into golden state on christmas day and got them to the 3 seed at the moment. then the injury happened.