Point is, Children will be children - ignorant.
As far as parenting philosophies go, everyone seem to think they have the right answer.
Beat them to death, Love them to death. ground them to death and on and on.
We as adults just have to find it in ourselves to put ourselves in the children's perspective and remember we use to be dumb as shit as well. I remember I busted a guys headlight playing baseball and ran off like crazy. Looking back I wish i gone and own up to it but fuck I was a kid and knew no better.
I got my house toilet paper last weekend and I just sat there and laugh cause I remember when I was a fool and did the same thing to my neighbors.
Back to topic, Mom might not have been wrong to ask you not to yell at her kid, who wants their kids being yelled at by someone else? I'm sure if you talk to her now while both of you are calm, she would understand and try to educate her kid. And what the kid did, it is stupid but again, he is a just kid.
If not, toilet paper her house.
As far as parenting philosophies go, everyone seem to think they have the right answer.
Beat them to death, Love them to death. ground them to death and on and on.
We as adults just have to find it in ourselves to put ourselves in the children's perspective and remember we use to be dumb as shit as well. I remember I busted a guys headlight playing baseball and ran off like crazy. Looking back I wish i gone and own up to it but fuck I was a kid and knew no better.
I got my house toilet paper last weekend and I just sat there and laugh cause I remember when I was a fool and did the same thing to my neighbors.
Back to topic, Mom might not have been wrong to ask you not to yell at her kid, who wants their kids being yelled at by someone else? I'm sure if you talk to her now while both of you are calm, she would understand and try to educate her kid. And what the kid did, it is stupid but again, he is a just kid.
If not, toilet paper her house.
I have zero problem with kids toilet papering, breaking shit, etc. lord knows I did it and worse. Kids will be kids no shit. I'm talking about everyday discipline. Nickpapageorgio nailed it. Parents today want to be friends with their kid. A kid needs a parent first and foremost. Kids need to have chores and be disciplined for not doing them and not rewarded for doing their homework. You're suppose to do your homework.
You and I truly have the same philosophy when it comes to raising kids, however, it is not just as simple as the parenting.
If you are interested, I attached an article of a Dr's opinion which gave me a little more perspective.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/13/health/13mind.html
I read the article. I get what the Dr is saying about how some kids are just defiant and the parent hasn't done anything to encourage that behavior. The article is talking about something totally different than what I was getting at. I'm talking about the lack of discipline in today's children. That's a direct result from the parents. Parents should instill discipline in their children so they can grow up to be responsible adults. I'm not insinuating parents should be drill sergeants. No one needs that. But, like Nick said parents need to be parents first and I think that isn't the case a lot of the time. The kids that I've been around are lazy and don't show much respect.
Don't leave your dogs outside unattended
Oh come on Shub. I've got a large fenced in back yard. ...Hell the people on the other side have a beagle that stays out 24/7 and howls all night. Some people have even asked the neighborhood association to petition the city for a barking ordinance.
My dogs are perfectly fine in their fenced in yard in the daytime without me being with them. (although i do have a copperhead problem that i have to watch) my rat terrier/bull mix got bit last year and they are even worse this year.
Simple fix:
Look, BITCH! Your little shit better not throw a brick at my dog again or the police will be over here! If you or your pussy ass husband has anything to say send him over and you'll be totin' an ass whoopin' back home. Got it? Now get the fuck out of here and take your little piece of shit kid with you!
Look, BITCH! Your little shit better not throw a brick at my dog again or the police will be over here! If you or your pussy ass husband has anything to say send him over and you'll be totin' an ass whoopin' back home. Got it? Now get the fuck out of here and take your little piece of shit kid with you!
Try managing a bunch of these entitled fucks once they are in their early 20s. I have to fire at least 3 people a week for attendance. They just don't feel like coming to work. Got this email from a guy just now, had to come back in this thread and post it.
Hello Jeremy, this is Brett XXX, I was informed last night that I had been terminated due to missing too many days of work and I'm extremely sorry about that and didn't want that to happen. I did have a rough week and I know that doesn't really make a difference. I tried calling you and Tim a couple times but I don't think my phone is working right... Anyways, I wanted to know if there was absolutely anything I can do to get this job back. I enjoyed working there and also enjoyed the people, I do understand that attendance is a big part of holding this job, and I have learned from my mistake. If there's any possible thing I can do to prove to you that I need this job and can hold it correctly a 2nd time around please try and call me at XXX... If I don't answer plz contact me back here.
I mean this kid at least says please, and has the balls to man up and say he fucked up. But come on. You "tried to call me"? Here's a tip, if you can't make it to work and you want to keep your job make it a goddamned PRIORITY to get in touch with your boss. Kids these days, smh
Hello Jeremy, this is Brett XXX, I was informed last night that I had been terminated due to missing too many days of work and I'm extremely sorry about that and didn't want that to happen. I did have a rough week and I know that doesn't really make a difference. I tried calling you and Tim a couple times but I don't think my phone is working right... Anyways, I wanted to know if there was absolutely anything I can do to get this job back. I enjoyed working there and also enjoyed the people, I do understand that attendance is a big part of holding this job, and I have learned from my mistake. If there's any possible thing I can do to prove to you that I need this job and can hold it correctly a 2nd time around please try and call me at XXX... If I don't answer plz contact me back here.
I mean this kid at least says please, and has the balls to man up and say he fucked up. But come on. You "tried to call me"? Here's a tip, if you can't make it to work and you want to keep your job make it a goddamned PRIORITY to get in touch with your boss. Kids these days, smh
It hasn't hit a hot spot my friend, I have one child and I raise her to the best of my ability.
I just find it troublesome that people tend to blame the parents for kids sometimes just acting like kids.
Let's ignore everything and go back to the original post.
So the kid was kicking his neighbors fence because the dog was barking at them or vice versa, who really knows what started what.
Fact is, dog is barking and kid is barking back & then kid pick up brick and throws it at one of the dogs. So owner of dog yells at kids, Kid lies that he didn't throw brick and mom over hear kid getting yelled at by older man and yells at man.
1. Can't be mad at the owner for defending his dog.
2. Can't be mad at mom for defending her kid.
So it comes down to the kid.
This is where it is going to come down to opinion... it is not that far fetch for a kid to be out in his back or front yard messing with the neighbors dog. It is not right the kid is attacking the dog and lying about the deed but it is not abnormal behavior for an 8 year old boy,at least to me, as I have two nephews that were pretty rambunctious.
I personally feel that many people pull the "blame parents" card too quickly. There are other reason's why kids act stupid e.g. seeing other kid's behavior at school, television, video games, friends/cousins, social media and so forth.
That being said, I do totally agree that parents should try to not coddle their children and raise them - as the saying goes, be the parent, not the friend. You have to lead your children so that they can become responsible, discipline and make good decisions. All that I agree with.
haha - There is some fucked up parents in the world, that I can't deny.
As a matter of fact, A teenage boy ran into my friend who is a young mother around 30-35. It is unclear exactly who is at fault as both individual claimed to have driven through a green light, however, the young man's father came to the scene and started verbally assaulting the young lady. "You Dumb , Blind driver and don't try to pin this on my kid" etc etc, and none of this was said with a polite tone.
I mean, wow, shit is an accident, go make sure your son is okay and let the police and insurance agency handle the rest. That girl almost need therapy from the verbal whip lash and you can tell the kid at the scene was humiliated by his father because situation was already under control.
I think we can start a thread about strange parenting behavior all day long.
I agree with everything you said. My rant about parents really didn't have anything to do with this topic. I know for a fact that I have kicked fences and riled up a few dogs as a kid. I never said specifically that this parent was a bad parent in this instance. I was speaking in general terms. I was posting my opinion on the thread headline whats up with kids these days (and their parents). You lost me when you posted can't blame the parents because God created them. Blame god. Lol. Well, we can't blame Hitler then can we, with that logic. It's all good. Again, I was speaking in general terms and not specifically to this thread. I'm sure you're a good parent. I know it's not easy raising kids. My gf of 7 years has 20 and 16 year old boys and a 11 year old girl. I'm around kids a lot so I know what a constant battle it can be.
