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Didn't read thru this but Titans wins against KC and Buf and being in the weakest division in football make them appear better than they are. Henry loss is whatever. Not a positive but overall not the most determintal. Come playoffs I don't see them making a run but have been wrong before. I finally jumped off the Chiefs after the GMen game. There was a much more compelling argument earlier in the year that they were a few TOs away from being a dominate team once again. Last 4 weeks that off is playing bad. Yea they'll right ship eventually but think 4 game is enough to say something this year ain't clicking. Lamar is playing at at an mvp level but that Bal def isnt what it has been in the past. Maybe they get it turned around because this is the best off I can remember them having. Overall parity makes for a more exciting playoff race.

By Henry's loss being whatever, did you mean the Titans offense will turn into whatever?

4 INT's and 13 points vs the Texans

Even Idina Menzel can't defy (or deny) his gravity.

(bump not meant to be a told you so either, but losing him is the equivalent to losing an elite player at another position, he's "The Exception")

Now NE going to flop lag these boys
 
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This was going to be a tough game for the Titans. The hitting the wall game so too speak after having this stretch of big games against good teams.. pretty undermanned going into didn't help.
 

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It's like they were getting away with shitty play offensively for a couple of weeks and then it finally came to fruition against Houston
 

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KC is now the AFC favorite
Funny the Bills were -600 to win the division a few weeks ago
Now -145
But still tied with Rams for 3rd to win it all
I don't quite get it
I hope I am wrong and they can win it all
 

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By Henry's loss being whatever, did you mean the Titans offense will turn into whatever?

4 INT's and 13 points vs the Texans

Even Idina Menzel can't defy (or deny) his gravity.

(bump not meant to be a told you so either, but losing him is the equivalent to losing an elite player at another position, he's "The Exception")

Now NE going to flop lag these boys
My read on Tenn has been pretty good this year. At least in the contest. Hou was just a flat spot for them after playing 5 or 6 straight playoff teams. Easy to look at Hou def numbers and say they're shit but a large part of that has been the off putting them into bad field position. They're much closer to being league avg then they are terrible on that side of the ball.

With Henry going down there were 2 directions for them to go. 1 they continue to roll out a run heavy approach on early downs. Foreman, McNichols, AP don't have the same talent as Henry. 2 they increase passing on early downs. Tannehill has proven that he be effective throwing the ball in obvious passing situations. My thought was towards the latter. They don't need these guys to be Derrick Henry. The loss impacts them from the sense that defenses don't need to key in on the run and continually stack 8/9 guys in the box. They're passing more but are still top 10 in early down run rate which is pretty nuts considering they weren't overly effective running the ball with one of the best RBs in the league and having a banged up OL.
 

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KC is garbage. Compared to the past couple seasons.

Slightly above average NFL team. 5-4 is the record. That's pretty much what they are.
This actually seems like a more accurate description of the Bills at the moment
 

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My read on Tenn has been pretty good this year. At least in the contest. Hou was just a flat spot for them after playing 5 or 6 straight playoff teams. Easy to look at Hou def numbers and say they're shit but a large part of that has been the off putting them into bad field position. They're much closer to being league avg then they are terrible on that side of the ball.

With Henry going down there were 2 directions for them to go. 1 they continue to roll out a run heavy approach on early downs. Foreman, McNichols, AP don't have the same talent as Henry. 2 they increase passing on early downs. Tannehill has proven that he be effective throwing the ball in obvious passing situations. My thought was towards the latter. They don't need these guys to be Derrick Henry. The loss impacts them from the sense that defenses don't need to key in on the run and continually stack 8/9 guys in the box. They're passing more but are still top 10 in early down run rate which is pretty nuts considering they weren't overly effective running the ball with one of the best RBs in the league and having a banged up OL.

I think you are underrating the efficiency of Henry based on a small sample, many of those games he played in this year his volume was just absurd and many of them the Titans were without 1-2 of their top WRs. The 25 games or so previous to this year being relevant.

I don't really think Hou was a flat spot (I don't tend to believe people can't gauge motivation very well in general though), I just think losing to bad teams is in their range of outcomes much more now. They played Trevor Simien last week, not like they were coming off the superbowl.
 
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I think that you're gonna find that losing Henry was huge for Tenny. He opened the passing game because opposing teams had to cram the box. He still carried the load and eventually wore out the will of opposing defenders.

But the underside to Henry is that with ball control, Tenny was able to keep their defense rested on the bench.

It's clear that the guys who replaced Henry are incapable of filling his big shoes.

So his loss means that both the offense and defense both suffer.

The New England line is up to 5'. I think the Pats will expose Tenny's (sans Henry) weaknesses.
 

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The New England line is up to 5'. I think the Pats will expose Tenny's (sans Henry) weaknesses.

Pats have been a cash cow for me in that forum contest. This line is tripping me up a bit though. Feels like a seesaw game that New England wins by like 3, but also could see Tennessee continue to regress and lose by like 21
 
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Pats have been a cash cow for me in that forum contest. This line is tripping me up a bit though. Feels like a seesaw game that New England wins by like 3, but also could see Tennessee continue to regress and lose by like 21
If Tenny can't run that should make them easy pickings for a Belly Defense.

And like I said, if they can't run their defense suffers too.

Bad time for all that to be happening. Foxboro will be jumping.
 

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All the Qbs are struggling this year
Mahomes
Jackson
Allen


I am not sure who the best team is
Colts may be a wild Card team
If Wentz is back to the Philly form he showed the SB year
Their run and defense are tough
 

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This is the first time in 19 years that every time in a conference has at least 4 losses through Week 13
 

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