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the participation rate is trending downward, no doubt.

it's either because the number of older persons not working is increasing or that the number of younger persons not working is increasing (or both)

i already know the answer, but anyone that is truly interested should just calculate the lfpr for aged 65+ and the rate for 16 to 64 then compare. then calculate the unemployment rate for both groups and compare.

then decide how much better or worse our country is than 10 years ago.

also ask if the increase in the number of people on 'food stamps' correlates with the increase in population
 

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there are other metrics that can be looked at, like population:employment ratio

elected officials pick and choose what metrics and what time period to show what a great job they are doing.


No doubt about that! As do backers of either side.
 

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just like you wouldn't use one indicator to evaluate a player/team you can't just use the unemployment rate or participation rate on it's own.

if a player increases his shooting percentage, that should be a good thing, as long as he is still taking the same amount of shots.

reporting on just unemployment rate is useless and misleading unless the participation rate remains unchanged.
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reporting on just the participation rate is useless and misleading unless the unemployment rate remains unchanged.

like you figured out the participation rate can be at 100% with 100% unemployment.

same with number of jobs.. useless number unless population remains unchanged

there are other metrics that can be looked at, like population:employment ratio

elected officials pick and choose what metrics and what time period to show what a great job they are doing.

like saying "I work 80 hours a week" but didn't sell any cars
then the next week saying "I sold 20 cars this week" and didn't show up for 3 days because you were blowing your paycheck

I agree with this.

The real thing the USA needs to do is invest in what will make us stronger. The only way in a global market is to make products people want and at a better value. I hate to tell those people in the rust belt the truth because they cant handle it....but those manufacturing jobs arent coming back.

Carrier Air Conditioning is a perfect example. If you cant compete on price and quality you are destined for failure. The only reason they are staying is that they have $500 million in revenue and the parent company has about 8 times that in military contracts. So the threat of losing 8 times the sales is the reason for staying (plus subsidies).

The car industry is a perfect example. GM had dominant market share. Honda and Toyota came in and made better products and they lost market share. I will never buy another GM product. The Honda and Toyota actually cost more but I am willing to pay that because I believe I am buying a better quality product.

The USA needs to invest in making the top 25% of our students exceptional. They need to invest in products that the world wants and needs and be the absolute best at those. Products that right now they dont even know they want or need. Example would be driverless cars. Make the best ones in the world and then manufacture those here and export it. Develop the next medical device like the pacemaker that the world will want and need and manufacture it here.

Not an air conditioner that the only reason it is here is because the government bullies them to stay.

I looked at big screen TV's yesterday. I will buy one that I think has the best value for my dollar....I don't care where it is made. If they can make a better product in the USA for the dollar I will be happy to purchase it. But I dont want it to be because we put tariffs on the competitors just so a plant in Ohio can compete. Common we can do better than that.
 

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the participation rate is trending downward, no doubt.

it's either because the number of older persons not working is increasing or that the number of younger persons not working is increasing (or both)

i already know the answer, but anyone that is truly interested should just calculate the lfpr for aged 65+ and the rate for 16 to 64 then compare. then calculate the unemployment rate for both groups and compare.

then decide how much better or worse our country is than 10 years ago.

also ask if the increase in the number of people on 'food stamps' correlates with the increase in population

actually, in a good economy pushes it up and a bad economy it trends down

once we get through this decade long period of economic malaise, you'll see an uptick again
 

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actually, in a good economy pushes it up and a bad economy it trends down

once we get through this decade long period of economic malaise, you'll see an uptick again[/QUOT

I think I agree with buddy that it is only one number and doesn't give the whole picture. like any statistics you can try to rig the numbers to support your argument.

Just like it it is hard to compare quarterbacks in different eras and different rules. Using this metric to compare Dwight to Obama would be not be accurate. Different world different dynamic of work force.
 

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actually, in a good economy pushes it up and a bad economy it trends down

once we get through this decade long period of economic malaise, you'll see an uptick again[/QUOT

I think I agree with buddy that it is only one number and doesn't give the whole picture. like any statistics you can try to rig the numbers to support your argument.

Just like it it is hard to compare quarterbacks in different eras and different rules. Using this metric to compare Dwight to Obama would be not be accurate. Different world different dynamic of work force.

I'm a proponent of using a constant LPR when calculating UE, that would help eliminate the fake news which too many people are too happy to spin
 

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do you actually think Dr's from those 7 dysfunctional countries actually matter to our healthcare system?

1. yes
2. it factors into how programs will rank international candidates in the annual match. it doesn't matter how many countries are included in the current proposal. the fact that he would even do such a thing is a threat to all foreign medical graduates applying for residencies and fellowships here. programs already cannot afford to take a gamble on one potential candidate dropping from the class. filling in an spot is not an easy task at all. it's not like any other job. this whole visa issue is having program directors across the country second guessing their rank lists. america is still the #1 desired place to train for medicine, and rightfully recruits the best talent. this stupid visa ban is restricting some of the brightest minds from around the world who could make a difference in our system as far as medicine, research, and innovation.

a single doctor from that list of "dysfunctional" countries has made more impact on more lives than you ever did.
 

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another great example of how the left reasons, an oxymoron of course

isn't there some street needing you to protest something? go burn your neighbors house or something, show us that love
 

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Willie getting owned. Go back downstairs and lie your ass off. They actually buy your bullshit down there
 

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