This thread is absurd.
Scam?
For $15k/year, you can enjoy the best party of your life. Thousands of drunk women every Thursday, Friday, Saturday night.
Most exciting football/hoops you'll ever experience. NFL is nothing compared to an autumn weekend in the South or Midwest.
With minimal effort, you can graduate with a B average. More than likely, this will get you:
$50-70k salary
2 weeks paid vacation
paid holidays
paid sick days
medical/dental
401k company match
option to telecommute
I'll admit, this might be the safe/boring route. Working for a big company. But it is a great option in your 20s, when you're trying to figure things out. If nothing else, it gives you career flexibility.
Look at the people in Wilmington, OH. Small town of 12k. DHL employed thousands of them. Then DHL shut everything down.
Now those people are stranded. Many of them don't have college degrees. Not like they can move to Chicago and apply for office/corporate jobs.
Scam?
For $15k/year, you can enjoy the best party of your life. Thousands of drunk women every Thursday, Friday, Saturday night.
Most exciting football/hoops you'll ever experience. NFL is nothing compared to an autumn weekend in the South or Midwest.
With minimal effort, you can graduate with a B average. More than likely, this will get you:
$50-70k salary
2 weeks paid vacation
paid holidays
paid sick days
medical/dental
401k company match
option to telecommute
I'll admit, this might be the safe/boring route. Working for a big company. But it is a great option in your 20s, when you're trying to figure things out. If nothing else, it gives you career flexibility.
Look at the people in Wilmington, OH. Small town of 12k. DHL employed thousands of them. Then DHL shut everything down.
Now those people are stranded. Many of them don't have college degrees. Not like they can move to Chicago and apply for office/corporate jobs.
I have no problem at all with education. I learn new stuff every day just for the sake of learning. My problem is people paying a ton for college and then not getting the work that many promised them. That's where I have issues. Nothing wrong with education without paying up the ass for it.
someone above said it best...nursing (or something in medicine or related to it like paramedic etc) is where its at...my girlfriend is a nurse and she is 100% recession proof and she always will be bc of the amount of baby boomers getting older and sick...she is 25 years old and she makes bank...just bought a new car (paid cash for it) and only owes about 10k on her student loans and then she is basically debt free....if i had a kid (thankfully i have no kids) about to go to college the last thing i would want is to hear is im going to school for business...id do my best to push them into something like nursing where in 4years you can graduate and pull in some decent money....i feel bad for the kids getting out with business degree and are competing for 0 jobs with 1000's of others...and have close to 100k in debt in loans on their backs....gl to them...
i get where alwayz right is coming from though.
i think it should be free or dirt cheap like it is in other countries.
McGill is a top 20 university in the world and the tuition is the same as a JC in the states.
so to you collegepeople, look abroad. you will pay 1/4 of what you pay here in the states.
i think it should be free or dirt cheap like it is in other countries.
McGill is a top 20 university in the world and the tuition is the same as a JC in the states.
so to you collegepeople, look abroad. you will pay 1/4 of what you pay here in the states.
I have 3 college degrees, and am thankful for every one of them.
If I get a chance, I will get more.
Anyone who says college is a scam is a total idiot.
It was your free choice to study what you wanted, and whether or not
you wanted to pay a certain price at a certain place.
Scam by definition is when you get duped because of some
information you didn't have at the time of purchase.
If you didn't get want you wanted when you paid for the education,
it's because you were too stupid to do your homework in the first
place, and/or sat there like a fucking idiot for four years as if
your head was in the sand.
As if you stood there on graduation day and opened your eyes, and
all of a sudden said,
WTF I just got raped?
If I get a chance, I will get more.
Anyone who says college is a scam is a total idiot.
It was your free choice to study what you wanted, and whether or not
you wanted to pay a certain price at a certain place.
Scam by definition is when you get duped because of some
information you didn't have at the time of purchase.
If you didn't get want you wanted when you paid for the education,
it's because you were too stupid to do your homework in the first
place, and/or sat there like a fucking idiot for four years as if
your head was in the sand.
As if you stood there on graduation day and opened your eyes, and
all of a sudden said,
WTF I just got raped?
#1> HELLO. College is FUN. Like people already mentioned. Partying, socialising, women in their prime.
#2> College is a social education. An education teaches you how to respect people, get along with people, and work with others. This is overlooked.
In the long run, for most people a college education is worth the cost.
#2> College is a social education. An education teaches you how to respect people, get along with people, and work with others. This is overlooked.
In the long run, for most people a college education is worth the cost.
It really depends on what major you selected in college.
I felt it was a scam because I simply didn't learn anything. The material was far too simple, there wasn't enough work, and the classmates were morons. All of the classes were either lecture halls which you had to teach material to yourself, or small classes taught by TAs who aren't there to teach you. They're just doing it to pay for their school.
Granted, I was a great student in high school and didn't go to a school that fit my academic background (a financial-based decision). I would never recommend this to anyone. I actually almost transferred because of this. Go to the best school you get into that you can afford and you will be happy at. I'd even recommend small private schools over big public schools (bigger scams).
The best education I received, no question, was at a community college. And it's the best value by far as well. You get a 30 person classroom with an actual professor for pennies. I never had to pay for a CC because of scholarships. The students at a CC were all there for a reason, not there to "party". They were driven and had plans. Education meant something to them, they weren't living off of Mom and Dad's wallet. You did have a mixed bag - there were the people who were too stupid to go anywhere else, and the mature students who went there because they recognized the value.
If you did research, knew what fields were going to be in demand, and chose a major where college could help you locate employment upon graduation, then college serves a great purpose. If you took the advice of these colleges, and "studied what you wanted to study", you found no benefit unless you were a lucky individual.
Those who will benefit most are those who choose a major that there is a need for. If you choose Nursing, you will receive a GREAT ROI as opposed to someone who chooses "Business". 2 years at a CC getting a degree in nursing will net you $20/hour. 4 years in school for engineering will net you nearly $30/hour. If you look into teaching, there's a shortage as well.
I felt it was a scam because I simply didn't learn anything. The material was far too simple, there wasn't enough work, and the classmates were morons. All of the classes were either lecture halls which you had to teach material to yourself, or small classes taught by TAs who aren't there to teach you. They're just doing it to pay for their school.
Granted, I was a great student in high school and didn't go to a school that fit my academic background (a financial-based decision). I would never recommend this to anyone. I actually almost transferred because of this. Go to the best school you get into that you can afford and you will be happy at. I'd even recommend small private schools over big public schools (bigger scams).
The best education I received, no question, was at a community college. And it's the best value by far as well. You get a 30 person classroom with an actual professor for pennies. I never had to pay for a CC because of scholarships. The students at a CC were all there for a reason, not there to "party". They were driven and had plans. Education meant something to them, they weren't living off of Mom and Dad's wallet. You did have a mixed bag - there were the people who were too stupid to go anywhere else, and the mature students who went there because they recognized the value.
If you did research, knew what fields were going to be in demand, and chose a major where college could help you locate employment upon graduation, then college serves a great purpose. If you took the advice of these colleges, and "studied what you wanted to study", you found no benefit unless you were a lucky individual.
Those who will benefit most are those who choose a major that there is a need for. If you choose Nursing, you will receive a GREAT ROI as opposed to someone who chooses "Business". 2 years at a CC getting a degree in nursing will net you $20/hour. 4 years in school for engineering will net you nearly $30/hour. If you look into teaching, there's a shortage as well.
