Owned?
Are you that stupid?
Adams was a friggen Deist, do you know what that is?
You're so stupid you even tried to do the research, and still think you're
making a point in quoting a Deist in support of Atheism.
Care to try again?
[ How many points for that Barman? ]
OMG... I just realized he called himself "Master of Internet Research" after that debacle.
You can't make this shit up.
Per the information linked, Adams used deist terms in much of his writing. And he seems to have even acknowledged a Higher Power involved in the creation of the Universe.
So it's fair to say he was not an avowed atheist.
However, he was most certainly not a follower of contemporary (for his time) Christian religion, as claimed in ZIT's earlier post.
So the five yard Taunting penalty against DEAC is outweighed by the 15 yard BogusClaim made by ZIT. Advance the chains and return to live play within the listed Topic.
So it's fair to say he was not an avowed atheist.
However, he was most certainly not a follower of contemporary (for his time) Christian religion, as claimed in ZIT's earlier post.
So the five yard Taunting penalty against DEAC is outweighed by the 15 yard BogusClaim made by ZIT. Advance the chains and return to live play within the listed Topic.
Only an idiot would quote a Christian to try and support atheism.
-festeringZit, internet pest and full time douchebag, referring to a quote by John Adams
Adams was a friggen Deist, do you know what that is?
-festeringZit, American bonehead and confused oxygen thief, trying to pretend that he didn't call Adams a Christian in an earlier post
-festeringZit, internet pest and full time douchebag, referring to a quote by John Adams
Adams was a friggen Deist, do you know what that is?
-festeringZit, American bonehead and confused oxygen thief, trying to pretend that he didn't call Adams a Christian in an earlier post
Again, only an clueless, ignorant fuck-tard would quote a Christian
and/or Deist in defense of Atheism.
You only make yourself look like more of a fucking idiot by trying
to defend your ignorance on this one.
Adams was considered to be both a Christian and a Deist. They are
not mutually exclusive.
President John Adams was a devout Unitarian, which was a non-trinitarian Protestant Christian denomination during the Colonial era.
He was identified as a Congregationalist by The Congregationalist Library. 1995 Information Please Almanac was cited as the source stating he was a later a Unitarian. (Source: Ian Dorion, "Table of the Religious Affiliations of American Founders", 1997).
http://www.adherents.com/people/pa/John_Adams.html
The undeniable FACT known by everyone is that John Adams was a devout
theist, and donkey DEAC is trying to use quotes by him to promote
his false religion of atheism.
DEAC,
Admit that you are totally 100% wrong on this, or continue to show that
you are a total clueless fucking ignorant idiot.
Your choice.
Barman,
Your BogusClaim penalty needs to be reviewed, as you are wrong. I
didn't claim Adams was a "fundy" Christian using your words. He
was indisputably a devout member of at least two different Christian
denominations during his lifetime, and was a co-founder of the
Unitarian Church in Boston. He was a follower of Jesus Christ as you are,
even though I don't think either of you believe in the divinity of Christ.
My main and obvious point, is that it is very clear that DEAC
wasn't doing any research at all on his stupid quotes - he was
just cut/pasting from one of his atheist web pages. And the
inane stupidity showed when he quoted a devout THEIST to try
and promote atheism. Utter stupidity and ignorance.
ZIT, admit that you totally blew past the first, unedited post in this thread - thus making your complaint about DEAC's citations moot, or continue to show that you are - with regard to this topic - a hair trigger reactionary who sets himself up for huge cyber wedgies. Thus making it likely best you retire from the field of play on this topic and leave it to those who have interest in the theme as clearly stated in Post #1
Your choice
ZIT: Barman,
Your BogusClaim penalty needs to be reviewed, as you are wrong. I
didn't claim Adams was a "fundy" Christian using your words.
B: I never used the word "Fundy" within this thread until just now.
Z: He was indisputably a devout member of at least two different Christian
denominations during his lifetime
B: Actually I think that is in reasonable dispute depending on where one gets their information. Regardless, DEAC never stated he was going to cite only atheists with his random posting of Notable Quotes.
Z: ... and was a co-founder of the Unitarian Church in Boston.
B: The Unitarian church has always offered at best a respect to Jesus Christ as a Master Teacher of his day. And they've never shut their doors to people of any religious upbringing or even those who question the existence of a Supreme Being.
Z: He was a follower of Jesus Christ.....
B: Asked and answered above....You're welcome to that opinion, but it's hardly supported by the bulk of Adams writings.
Z:.... as you are, even though I don't think either of you believe in the divinity of Christ.
B: Fwiw, I most absolutely believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ. I believe that he, like every man and woman who has ever lived, is part of the divine collective intelligence that runs our universe.
Z: My main and obvious point, is that it is very clear that DEAC
......when he quoted a devout THEIST to try
and promote atheism. Utter stupidity and ignorance.
B: Asked and answered now in at least four posts higher in this Thread. DEAC made no such advance claim that his cited Quotes would only be from atheism. Nor did he state that all the quotes would "promote atheism".
Rather, they simply each comment on one or more aspects of common religious thinking.
If they're all full of baloney, then obviously there's not much for you to personally see in this here thread. So I'm puzzled as to why you're even opening it, much less Replying to various content.
Your BogusClaim penalty needs to be reviewed, as you are wrong. I
didn't claim Adams was a "fundy" Christian using your words.
B: I never used the word "Fundy" within this thread until just now.
Z: He was indisputably a devout member of at least two different Christian
denominations during his lifetime
B: Actually I think that is in reasonable dispute depending on where one gets their information. Regardless, DEAC never stated he was going to cite only atheists with his random posting of Notable Quotes.
Z: ... and was a co-founder of the Unitarian Church in Boston.
B: The Unitarian church has always offered at best a respect to Jesus Christ as a Master Teacher of his day. And they've never shut their doors to people of any religious upbringing or even those who question the existence of a Supreme Being.
Z: He was a follower of Jesus Christ.....
B: Asked and answered above....You're welcome to that opinion, but it's hardly supported by the bulk of Adams writings.
Z:.... as you are, even though I don't think either of you believe in the divinity of Christ.
B: Fwiw, I most absolutely believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ. I believe that he, like every man and woman who has ever lived, is part of the divine collective intelligence that runs our universe.
Z: My main and obvious point, is that it is very clear that DEAC
......when he quoted a devout THEIST to try
and promote atheism. Utter stupidity and ignorance.
B: Asked and answered now in at least four posts higher in this Thread. DEAC made no such advance claim that his cited Quotes would only be from atheism. Nor did he state that all the quotes would "promote atheism".
Rather, they simply each comment on one or more aspects of common religious thinking.
If they're all full of baloney, then obviously there's not much for you to personally see in this here thread. So I'm puzzled as to why you're even opening it, much less Replying to various content.
It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I also cannot imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere. … Science has been charged with undermining morality, but the charge is unjust. A man’s ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.
-Albert Einstein
-Albert Einstein
Hell is an outrage on humanity. When you tell me that your deity made you in his image, I reply that he must have been very ugly.
-Victor Hugo, French poet, playwright, novelist, essayist, visual artist, statesman, human rights activist and exponent of the Romantic movement in France
-Victor Hugo, French poet, playwright, novelist, essayist, visual artist, statesman, human rights activist and exponent of the Romantic movement in France
Take from the church the miraculous, the supernatural, the incomprehensible, the unreasonable, the impossible, the unknowable, the absurd, and nothing but a vacuum remains.
-Robert G. Ingersoll, Civil War veteran, American political leader, and orator during the Golden Age of Freethought
-Robert G. Ingersoll, Civil War veteran, American political leader, and orator during the Golden Age of Freethought
