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I see the title of the first post re: Obama is this:

A Complete Guide to the Scandals of the Obama Administration

Wouldn't it make more sense to start a separate thread with this title and update it each day and/or as needed for maximum effect?

This is what I am going to suggest to the moderators.
 

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Interesting stuff Stevie. Considering all the DOJ stuff coming out, those posts are very much news today. I guess Obama told PLENTY of lies too! lol

God damn he was corrupt to the core!
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Most corrupt of all time. Some people just choose to be ignorant
 

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"Ebbing," that's a good word...

[h=1]U.S. Recovery Looks to Be Ebbing in States With Virus Outbreaks[/h]Rich Miller Bloomberg June 25, 2020

(Bloomberg) -- The U.S. economic recovery is showing incipient signs of weakening in some states where coronavirus cases are mounting.The ebbing is evident in such high-frequency data as OpenTable restaurant reservations and follows a big bounce in activity as businesses reopened from lockdowns meant to check the spread of Covid-19.
“We’re now starting to see very early evidence that things are leveling off” in some of the states that reopened first and are now suffering rising virus cases, said Michelle Meyer, head of U.S. economics at Bank of America Corp.
The result, she said, is likely to be an uneven recovery, even as gross domestic product rapidly rebounds next quarter from what will probably be the steepest nosedive since the Great Depression. “It’s going to be fits and starts,” she said. “It’s not going to be a smooth path.”
Jobs data on Thursday reflected that. Applications for unemployment benefits were higher than forecast for a second week, clocking in at 1.48 million after an upwardly revised 1.54 million in the prior period. The median forecast called for 1.32 million. Continuing claims, however, declined more than estimated -- to 19.5 million in the week ended June 13.
“The stickiness that we see in claims is a reason to be concerned,” Meyer said even before the latest report. “It tells you there’s still some firing going on” even as the economy reopens.
Among America’s most-populous states, Texas, Florida and California are experiencing a surge in coronavirus outbreaks even while others, including New York, see declines. Overall, counties accounting for between one-third and one-half of U.S. GDP are suffering from worsening trends in new cases or Covid-19-related deaths, according to research by Deutsche Bank AG economists.
The S&P 500 Index slumped 2.6% and Treasury yields fell on Wednesday as investors grew anxious about the economy’s prospects.
“We’re playing mediocre Whac-A-Mole” in controlling the disease, former Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers said.
Read more:
IMF Projects Deeper Global Recession on Growing Virus ThreatU.S. Deaths From Covid-19 Forecast to Hit 180,000 by OctoberAmericans Are Avoiding Stores Again in New Virus Hot SpotsBloomberg Economics: Why Jobless Claims Downtrend May Soon Accelerate
He told the Economic Club of New York on Wednesday that 30% of the economy will need to be shut back down -- either by government decree or by people and companies acting on their own -- to prevent the pandemic from getting out of control.
The fading economic momentum already evident in states with more virus cases is occurring even though the authorities there have not re-imposed shutdowns, though they may eventually do so. Instead, the shift appears to reflect increased caution by consumers and businesses in the face of the contagion.
“The public is not psychologically immune to Covid-19 and will retrench if the virus starts spreading again, regardless of government restrictions (or lack thereof),” Jefferies LLC economists Aneta Markowska and Thomas Simons wrote Wednesday in a note to clients.
That’s particularly the case for older Americans, who are in greater danger of dying from the virus if they contract it.
“The baby boomers account for something like 30% to 35% of consumer spending in this country,” Peter Hooper, global head of economic research for Deutsche Bank AG, said Wednesday on Bloomberg Television. “If this virus continues to get worse, consumer spending is not going anywhere down the road.”
This, in turn, would create “real problems” for many U.S. businesses with low profit margins because they would still have to operate well below capacity due to limited consumer demand, according to JPMorgan Chase & Co. Chief U.S. Economist Michael Feroli.
GLOBAL INSIGHT: What Alternative Data Say About the Recovery
Recurring coronavirus outbreaks could mean restrained economic expansion and elevated unemployment for years, according to Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago President Charles Evans.
“My forecast assumes growth is held back by the response to intermittent localized outbreaks -- which might be made worse by the faster-than-expected reopenings,” Evans said Wednesday in remarks at a virtual event.
What seems to have happened, some economists say, is that a number of states restarted their economies prematurely, paying little heed to guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
That led to the earlier and stronger recovery in economic activity seen in recent national statistics. But it also raised the risk of a relapse in parts of the country as the virus flares anew.“The bounce-back in the economy has happened,” said Summers, a Bloomberg contributor and professor at Harvard
 

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We will never agree on the marketing issue, but why do you keep avoiding your documentation on how much you have cost NC sports as you boldly claimed?
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By not supplying documentation and ignoring the request, you are basically said you made that shit up. Got it
 

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Cheddar said:
By not supplying documentation and ignoring the request, you are basically said you made that shit up. Got it
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As you wish-you obvious inability/refusal to consider what I said in FULL is not surprising.

I stand by what I say and will not respond any more to this.

Hopefully you will be able to contribute /do better if and when football seasons returns, ,and folks can take a look a careful look at what

I do every day in the Phil Steele/NC Thread in the Site Promotion Section.

That's it for me with you in this thread anyways.
 

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Jeez, whatta the odds of haveing TWO fat, felonious fuckwads in high positions at the same time???

Barr Reportedly Told DOJ Officials to Try and Undermine Michael Cohen’s Conviction


Blake Montgomery,The Daily Beast•June 25, 2020

Leah Millis/Reuters The same day that Attorney General William Barr insisted there is “no pattern” of him working to advance the personal interests of President Donald Trump, several sources cited by The New York Times said one of his first moves after being sworn into office in early 2019 was trying to find ways to undermine the conviction of longtime Trump fixer Michael Cohen.
Barr had reportedly repeatedly questioned prosecutors over the charges against Cohen, who pleaded guilty in August 2018 to financial crimes that included hush-money payments to women who alleged they had affairs with Trump. He went so far as to instruct Justice Department officials to draft a legal memo casting doubt on the legitimacy of Cohen’s conviction, according to sources cited by the Times, but they refused to do so.
Meanwhile, in an NPR interview published Thursday, Barr scoffed at the notion he has been promoting Trump’s agenda at the expense of the rule of law, calling it a “media narrative” and saying there is “no such pattern.” He went on the defensive in the interview multiple times.
Barr has made several controversial interventions into cases involving President Donald Trump’s associates. In early May, he chose to drop the Justice Department’s case against Trump’s former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, a decision that elicited blistering criticism, as Flynn had already pleaded guilty. Though Michael Flynn was the president’s National Security Adviser, Barr denied any political pressure to drop the charges against him: “I don't know whether I would refer to him as a friend of any administration,” he said.
And though Flynn admitted to lying to the FBI, Barr still cast the charges against the retired general as ludicrous: “There was a lot of hinky stuff in the Flynn case. Everyone knew that. Everyone was wondering why was this case ever brought?”
When asked about the chaotic removal last week of Geoffrey Berman, the former U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York who was involved in investigating many of Trump's allies, Barr dismissed the move as nothing more than a standard personnel decision.
“I certainly was aware that given the current environment, anytime you make a personnel move, you know, conspiracy theorists will suggest that there's something, there's some ulterior motive involved. But I felt this was actually a good time to do it because I was not aware of anything that should in reality, give rise to that,” he said. He said Berman was “living on borrowed time from the beginning.”
Despite insisting he treats all cases equally, he apparently could not name a single case not tied to the president's inner circle where he had staged a last-minute intervention similar to that in the Flynn case.
When pressed about the president’s executive power, Barr echoed the commander-in-chief’s rhetoric and attempted to redirect the conversation. He scolded the press for failing to scrutinize state governors, who, in order to fight the new coronavirus, have been “putting the entire population in home detention and telling people that they have to shut down their livelihood and their business,” he said. The president has often said that the measures taken against the coronavirus are worse than the sickness itself. Barr reiterated another Trump talking point when he said that an election with a high number of mail-in ballots can take place securely. He said the evidence was “obvious.”
 

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'Morning Joe' Speculates Trump May Quit Before He Gets Fired
David Moye June 26, 2020, 10:16 AM PDT

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/donald-trump-quit-morning-joe-171634538.html

President Donald Trump hates being thought of as a loser, but maybe he wouldn’t mind being known as a quitter.
That’s what “Morning Joe” host Joe Scarborough wondered on Friday in light of the president’s recent racially charged rallies and his administration’s latest attempt to overturn the Affordable Care Act.
It left Scarborough wondering: “Does this guy want to be elected president of the United States? Does he really want to be there?”
Scarborough pointed out that Trump had a better instinct for when to keep his mouth shut in 2016 when he won the White House, but “he’s not acting that way now” as he seeks a second term.
He added that the president is not only “acting like he doesn’t want to get re-elected, he’s acting like he really wants to lose badly and take the Republican Party down with him.”
Scarborough, who Trump earlier this year sought to smear with a baseless conspiracy theory, conceded his “far-fetched” theory didn’t make conventional sense, but it was the only way to explain the president’s current campaign efforts.
“You look at every single move he’s making,” Scarborough said. “And it keeps happening every day.”
The TV host added, “This looks like a deliberate attempt to drive his campaign into the ground every day. He knows what he’s doing is going to lower the poll numbers, and they are. They are collapsing every day.”
A series of polls released Thursday contained especially bad news for Trump, showing him running behind Joe Biden, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, in several of the most politically competitive states.
Scarborough’s co-host and wife, Mika Brzenzinski, amplified his hot take.
“He doesn’t want four more years,” she said. “That’s clear. You can tell by his behavior. His attitude towards the health of the American people, he doesn’t want to be there.”
Brzezinski also noted that Trump doesn’t like to lose, which led Scarborough to suggest that the president might consider pulling out of the race before the election ― especially if it looks like Biden will win big.
“This is not a guy who is acting like he expects to be around on January 21st, 2021, in the White House. And he’s acting like he’s setting everything on fire before he leaves,” Scarborough said.
He added, “He’s known when to leave the stage before. … I would not be surprised if he left the stage again.”
A little later, he riffed on what Trump might say to the American people in his resignation speech ― “You don’t deserve me” was one key phrase.
Scarborough then suggested Trump would rather leave the presidency and be remembered for scoring one of the biggest political upsets of all time then an incumbent who suffered an especially humiliating loss.
However, he took great pains to remind viewers that it was just a theory and wasn’t based on any insider knowledge.
“He’s known when to leave the stage before — again, I’m the only one saying this — I would not be surprised if he left the stage again,” Scarborough said, reiterating, “And again, I’m the only person saying it. Don’t think it’ll happen, but it’s a possibility.”
You can watch the complete segment below.
 

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BMI Warns Donald Trump Campaign To Stop Playing Rolling Stones’ “You Can’t Always Get What You Want” At Rallies
David Robb
June 26, 2020, 12:47 PM PDT (1st Tom Petty said, stop using "I Won't Back Down," now this. No shortage of artists who want no part of this prick, not surprisingly)

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EXCLUSIVE: We finally might have heard the last of the Rolling Stones’ “You Can’t Always Get What You Want” at President Donald Trump’s campaign rallies, which was played as his walk-off theme at Saturday’s sparsely attended rally in Tulsa, OK.
The Stones first objected to Trump’s use of the song during the 2016 presidential campaign, but he has continued to use it without their permission. Now he’s been put on notice by BMI – the giant publishing rights organization – that there might be legal consequences if he persists.
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Tom Petty’s Family Objects To Donald Trump Campaign’s Use Of ‘I Won’t Back Down’ At Tulsa Rally
BMI informed the Trump campaign this week that the unauthorized use of the song will constitute a breach of its licensing agreement. “The Trump campaign has a Political Entities License which authorizes the public performance of more than 15 million musical works in BMI’s repertoire wherever campaign events occur,” a BMI spokesperson told Deadline. “There is a provision, however, that allows BMI to exclude musical works from the license if a songwriter or publisher objects to its use by a campaign. BMI has received such an objection and sent a letter notifying the Trump campaign that the Rolling Stones’ works have been removed from the campaign license, and advising the campaign that any future use of these musical compositions will be in breach of its license agreement with BMI.”
Asked if the Trump campaign has responded to its letter, the BMI spokesperson said, “Not as of this date.”
BMI’s Music License for Political Entities or Organizations (read it here) states that “a specific work may be excluded from the license if notice is received from a BMI songwriter or publisher objecting to the use of their copyrighted work for the intended use by licensee.”
Rihanna Shuts Down Use Of Her Music At Donald Trump’s “Tragic Rallies”
Some politicians think they can circumvent the objections of artists by claiming that the use of their songs is licensed not by their campaigns but rather through the licensing agreements of the venues at which they speak.
The BOK Center in Tulsa has such a venue licensing agreement with BMI, but the BMI spokesperson told Deadline that it “licenses political campaigns and events through its Political Entities or Organizations License, which clearly states that a campaign cannot rely on a venue license to authorize its performance of an excluded work. Therefore, a political campaign cannot and should not try to circumvent BMI’s withdrawal of musical works under its Political Entities License by attempting to rely on another license.”
Neil Young To Donald Trump: Comes A Time To Quit Using My Song – Now!
Numerous other acts have publicly objected to the use of their songs at Trump’s campaign rallies over the last four years, including Neil Young, whose “Rockin’ in the Free World” was played when Trump announced his candidacy after descending an escalator at the Trump Tower in New York in June 2015; Queen for his use of “We Are the Champions” at the 2016 Republican National Convention in Cleveland; Rihanna, for the use of her hit song “Don’t Stop the Music” at a 2018 Trump rally in Tallahassee, FL; Pharrell Williams, whose Oscar-nominated “Happy” was played at a Trump rally hours after 11 people were killed at a Pittsburgh synagogue in October 2018; Panic! at the Disco’s Brendon Urie, whose “High Hopes” played at Trump’s Phoenix event this week; and the estate of the Tom Petty, whose “I Won’t Back Down” also was played at Trump’s rally last week in Tulsa.
The Trump campaign claimed that it had the right to play “Rockin’ in the Free World” at his campaign events through a licensing agreement with ASCAP. Like BMI, ASCAP has a Political Campaign License agreement that provides “a blanket license to perform any or all of the millions of compositions in the ASCAP repertory. However, ASCAP members may ask ASCAP to exclude specific songs from a particular political campaign’s license. In that event, ASCAP will notify the campaign of the excluded works.”
Brendon Urie Objects To Donald Trump Campaign’s Use Of ‘High Hopes’ At Phoenix Event: “Stop Playing My Song”
When Young’s manager informed the Trump campaign that its use of “Rockin’ in the Free World” was “not authorized,” Trump’s then-campaign manager Corey Lewandowski said that the campaign “will respect his wish” to not use the song “because it’s the right thing to do.”
Earlier this week, Petty’s family posted a statement on the late-singer’s Twitter account saying that the Trump campaign’s use of his song is “in no way authorized,” adding that he “would never want a song of his used for a campaign of hate.”
After Rihanna demanded that her songs no longer be played at Trump’s “tragic rallies,” BMI removed her music from its blanket Political Entities License agreement and sent the Trump campaign a letter saying that “any performance of Rihanna’s musical works by the Trump campaign from this date forward is not authorized by BMI.”
And when Queen’s famous anthem was played when Trump was nominated in 2016 at the Republican National Convention, the band said it was “an unauthorized use … against our wishes.”
 

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Dafinch-re: post 352 although I am sure that there are others who have said the same thing, but ,a month or two ago

I stated the distinct possibility that Trump on some conscious or subconscious level exactly the same thing.

I also suggested besides what your article says is that he might have one of his doctors to use an a appropriate word, FAKE a report that he had some

kind of physical condition that would make it dangerous to his candidacy and/or Presidency if re-elected.

The other possibility would be as usual to state that Election is rigged, and that he doesn't want to be part of any prove where he is zero chance before

the votes are even counted.
 
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Our great President is so cool and so good! He also works very hard

every day for AMERICA! This be why the fake liberal news media hate

him and the" Deep State" DEMOCRATS are scared of him caz he will

keep destroying them big time! Trump in 2020!cheersgifcheersgifcheersgif
 

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[FONT=&quot]Trump Faces Mounting Defections From a Once-Loyal Group: Older White Voters[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Alexander Burns and Katie Glueck The New York Times•June 28, 2020[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]President Donald Trump speaks during a visit to Fincantieri Marinette Marine, Thursday, June 25, 2020, in Marinette, Wis. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Clifford Wagner, an 80-year-old Republican in Tucson, Arizona, never cared for President Donald Trump.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]He supported Jeb Bush in the 2016 presidential primary race and cast a protest vote in the general election for Gary Johnson, the Libertarian nominee. An Air Force veteran, Wagner described the Trump presidency as a mortifying experience: His friends in Europe and Japan tell him the United States has become “the laughingstock of the world.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]This year, Wagner said he would register his opposition to Trump more emphatically than he did in 2016. He plans to vote for Joe Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee, and hopes the election is a ruinous one for the Republican Party.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“I’m a Christian, and I do not believe in the hateful, racist, bigoted speech that the president uses,” Wagner said, adding, “As much as I never thought I’d say this, I hope we get a Democratic president, a Democratic-controlled Senate and maintain a Democratic-controlled House.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Wagner is part of one of the most important maverick voting groups in the 2020 general election: conservative-leaning seniors who have soured on the Republican Party over the past four years.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Republican presidential candidates typically carry older voters by solid margins, and in his first campaign Trump bested Hillary Clinton by 7 percentage points with voters over 65. He won white seniors by nearly triple that margin.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Today, Trump and Biden are tied among seniors, according to a poll of registered voters conducted by The New York Times and Siena College. And in the six most important battleground states, Biden has established a clear upper hand, leading Trump by 6 percentage points among the oldest voters and nearly matching the president’s support among whites in that age group.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]That is no small advantage for Biden, the former vice president, given the prevalence of retirement communities in a few of those crucial states, including Arizona and Florida.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]No Democrat has won or broken even with seniors in two decades, since Al Gore in 2000 devoted much of his general election campaign to warning that Republicans would cut popular programs like Social Security and Medicare. In 2016, Trump, now 74, seemed in some ways keenly attuned to the political sensitivities of voters in his own age group. As a candidate, he bluntly rejected his party’s long-standing interest in restructuring government guarantees of retirement security.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]But Trump’s presidency has been a trying experience for many of these voters, some of whom are now so frustrated and disillusioned that they are preparing to take the drastic step of supporting a Democrat.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The grievances of these defecting seniors are familiar, most or all of them shared by their younger peers. But these voters often express themselves with a particularly sharp kind of dismay and disappointment. They see Trump as coarse and disrespectful, divisive to his core and failing persistently to comport himself with the dignity of the other presidents that they have observed for more than half a century. The Times poll also found that most seniors disapproved of Trump’s handling of race relations and the protests after the death of George Floyd.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]And as the coronavirus pandemic continues to sweep the country, putting older Americans at particular risk, these voters feel a special kind of frustration and betrayal with Trump’s ineffective leadership and often-blasé public comments about the crisis.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The president has urged the country to return to life-as-usual far more quickly than the top public health officials in his own administration have recommended. Some prominent Republican officials and conservative pundits have even suggested at times that older people should be willing to risk their own health for the sake of a quicker resumption of the business cycle.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]In The Times poll, seniors in the battleground states disapproved of Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic by 7 points, 52% to 45%. By a 26-point margin, this group said the federal government should prioritize containing the pandemic over reopening the economy.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Former Rep. Carlos Curbelo of Florida, a 40-year-old Republican deeply versed in the politics of the retiree-rich swing state, said many seniors were disturbed by important aspects of Trump’s record and found Biden a mild and respectable alternative who did not inspire the same antipathy on the right that Clinton did in 2016.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Regarded by much of his own party as bland and conventional, Biden’s nostalgia-cloaked candidacy may be uniquely equipped to ease a sizable group of right-of-center seniors into the Democratic column, at least for one election.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“He’s not ever been known to be a radical or an extreme leftist or liberal, so there is certainly a degree of comfort there,” Curbelo said. He added: “This public health crisis is so threatening, especially to seniors, and because the president hasn’t earned high marks in his handling of it, I think that has also been a factor in Biden’s improving numbers.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Biden and his allies have expressed growing excitement about the political possibilities that the shifting senior vote could create in the fall. That is true not only in Sun Belt retirement havens but also in Midwestern states where Biden is currently running well ahead of Clinton’s 2016 performance with a range of conservative-leaning constituencies, including older white people.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]In Iowa, former Gov. Tom Vilsack, a close Biden ally, said the former vice president had closed a substantial deficit in the state through his response to the coronavirus, his connection with older rural voters and his ability to empathize.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“Part of it is the demeanor he has projected during the course of this pandemic,” Vilsack said, before acknowledging, “As much as Joe’s doing, it’s probably as much or more what the president has done or failed to do.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]He cited an ad from a group of anti-Trump Republicans that cast Trump’s approach to crisis as erratic and selfish, unlike past presidents who have confronted national tragedies like the Challenger disaster and the Oklahoma City bombing.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“Each of those presidents was able to connect emotionally to the feelings of the nation,” Vilsack said. “This president has had a really, really hard time doing that.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Trump’s ineffective response to the coronavirus weighed on the thinking of many older voters surveyed in the poll, including Patrick Mallon, 73, a retired information technology specialist in Battle Creek, Michigan.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Mallon said he was a registered Republican who had long been unhappy with Trump but mindful that he was presiding over a strong economy. The pandemic set Mallon firmly against Trump’s reelection.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“The main reason is Donald Trump saying, ‘Don’t wear a mask, this thing is going to go away, we can have large gatherings,’” he said. “Everything he says is incorrect and dangerous to the country.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]When young people contract the coronavirus, Mallon added, “most of them will survive, but they’re going to give it to their parents, their grandparents — and I’m sorry, we’re just as important as that younger generation is.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The abandonment of Trump by older voters is far from universal, and he still has a strong base among older white men and self-described conservatives. Nationally, the oldest voters approve of Trump’s handling of the economy by 12 points, more than double the figure for voters of all ages.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]And in the battleground states, Trump has a 10-point lead over Biden with white men over the age of 65, even as Biden has opened up an advantage with white women in the same age group. Nonwhite seniors in the battleground states currently support Biden over Trump by a huge margin, 65% to 25%.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Even among some seniors supportive of Trump, however, there is an undercurrent of unease about the way he approaches the presidency.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Karen Gamble, 65, of Reidsville, North Carolina, said that she was dissatisfied with the overall government response to the coronavirus outbreak and echoed many popular complaints about Trump’s persona. She said she wished, for instance, that Trump “wouldn’t be such a bully and would conform to being in a regal-like position, as our presidents have always been.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Gamble said she was planning to support Trump in the election all the same, describing Biden as too old and too compromised on matters related to China. But Gamble, who said she has a “severe lung problem,” expressed hope that Trump would change his approach to the pandemic.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“We can’t blame him for this — how many presidents could really do any better than what he’s done?” Gamble said, before adding: “I just wish he wouldn’t let the country open up as much as it has. I see all these teens and young people at the beach, and I fear for them because now they’re getting sick.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]In Tucson, Gerald Lankin, a more forceful Trump supporter, said he would back the president mainly as a vote “against the Democrats.” Lankin, 77, said he found Trump’s personal manner offensive but agreed with him on most issues and saw Democrats as “much, much, much, much too far to the left.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“He hasn’t really done anything that I can say I’m against,” Lankin said of Trump. “I think what he’s doing is the best he can. But, boy, he is tough to take. He is a tough guy to take.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]There may be time for Trump to regain his footing with seniors, along with several other right-leaning groups that have drifted away during the bleakest months of his presidency. His ability to do so could have far-reaching implications not just for his chances of winning a second term, but also his party’s ability to keep its hold on the Senate.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]At the moment, Trump’s unpopularity with older voters appears to be hindering other Republicans in states including Arizona and Michigan.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Gayle Craven, 80, of High Point, North Carolina, said that while she was a registered Republican, she had not voted for Trump in 2016 and would reject him again this year. She said she saw Biden as an “honest man.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“Trump is the biggest disappointment,” she said. “He has made America look like idiots. I think he’s an embarrassment to my country.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Other older voters leaning toward Biden cautioned that they could still change their minds, like Frederick Monk, 73, of Mesa, Arizona, who said he had voted for Trump but quickly came to see him as “incompetent.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Still, Monk said his mind was not fully made up. If Biden chooses an overly liberal running mate, he said he could cast a vote for Trump and hope his second term is an exercise in futility.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“Hopefully the Democrats retake the Senate and make his next four years miserable, if he lasts that long,” Monk said.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]This article originally appeared in The New York Times.[/FONT]
 
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