The Pac-1 is who I thought they were - and I AINT letting them off the hook

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Well as someone who served active duty, I don't have much respect for ROTC, but I wouldnt spit on them. Anyways I did take it like a man, I said the Bruins suck this year, no QB, no RB, no OL, pretty much means the D will be on the field all day and they can't score.
 

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There are high school teams that could beat UNLV. I don't care how much you're looking ahead. ASU sucks if they struggled like this

You lost all credibility with this statement. No high school team could beat a D1 school. The size, strength, and maturity you develop from when your 17 to 21 is substantial. It would be ugly.
 

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You lost all credibility with this statement. No high school team could beat a D1 school. The size, strength, and maturity you develop from when your 17 to 21 is substantial. It would be ugly.

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Let's not play these dumb games people. The matter of the real situation is if we DO play these games. BYU beating UCLA puts them a top the SEC or at least top five LOL.

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My two cents. Yes, the PAC 10 had a horrible day, but at least they are playing some nice competition ON THE ROAD. Outside of Tenn playing at UCLA and Bama playing Clemson in Atlanta, what has the SEC done on the road that we should take notice? I forget, they don't have to because they play an SEC schedule.

Kudos to the PAC 10 for having some balls and scheduling some real competition.
 

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My two cents. Yes, the PAC 10 had a horrible day, but at least they are playing some nice competition ON THE ROAD. Outside of Tenn playing at UCLA and Bama playing Clemson in Atlanta, what has the SEC done on the road that we should take notice? I forget, they don't have to because they play an SEC schedule.

Kudos to the PAC 10 for having some balls and scheduling some real competition.

No kudos at all. Until the Pac-10 isn't the only conference that insists on having their refs do out of conference home games I can't blame anyone for not wanting to play their teams.
 

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No kudos at all. Until the Pac-10 isn't the only conference that insists on having their refs do out of conference home games I can't blame anyone for not wanting to play their teams.

Now that's as fair and balanced a Pac-10 remark as you will ever hear from whormoan.

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Bunch of one-weekend geniuses.

In all fairness arent you the guy who absolutely blew up a week ago when UCLA squeeked out an overtime home win over Tennessee and you proceeded to trash the entire SEC like as if that one game was the end-all determining game of conference surpremacy for the ages?
 

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In all fairness arent you the guy who absolutely blew up a week ago when UCLA squeeked out an overtime home win over Tennessee and you proceeded to trash the entire SEC like as if that one game was the end-all determining game of conference surpremacy for the ages?

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My two cents. Yes, the PAC 10 had a horrible day, but at least they are playing some nice competition ON THE ROAD. Outside of Tenn playing at UCLA and Bama playing Clemson in Atlanta, what has the SEC done on the road that we should take notice? I forget, they don't have to because they play an SEC schedule.

Kudos to the PAC 10 for having some balls and scheduling some real competition.

Kudos? For ASU playing N. Arizona and UNLV? Playing GA defeats your argument hence its a SEC school.

Kudos? For CAL for playing Maryland, Colorado St., and Michigan St. All are bottom tier teams in their respected conferences with the exception of maybe MSU (their middle of the pack at best).

Kudos? For Arizona playing Idaho, Toledo, and New Mexico

Oh so USC plays Notre Dame, Ohio St., and those world beaters in Virginia. Notre Dame, VA, and their conference all suck so it comes down to OSU game in deciding their fate to play in the national championship. I mean cause even if they lose against Stanford they still only fall 4 spots and get back to the national championship game once a few SEC schools beat each other up.

Oregon is the only school I have any respect for in the conference.

Look at Alabama's, Florida's, and especially Georgia's schedules. They are a handful of ranked opponents in each of those schedules. No wonder the SEC has won the past two championships. LSU is probably the 4th best team in the conference by most power rankings. What do you think they'll do to Oregon, CAL, and ASU? Your 2-4 best teams. PLEASE!!



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Kudos? For ASU playing N. Arizona and UNLV? Playing GA defeats your argument hence its a SEC school.

Kudos? For CAL for playing Maryland, Colorado St., and Michigan St. All are bottom tier teams in their respected conferences with the exception of maybe MSU (their middle of the pack at best).

Kudos? For Arizona playing Idaho, Toledo, and New Mexico

Oh so USC plays Notre Dame, Ohio St., and those world beaters in Virginia. Notre Dame, VA, and their conference all suck so it comes down to OSU game in deciding their fate to play in the national championship. I mean cause even if they lose against Stanford they still only fall 4 spots and get back to the national championship game once a few SEC schools beat each other up.

Oregon is the only school I have any respect for in the conference.

Look at Alabama's, Florida's, and especially Georgia's schedules. They are a handful of ranked opponents in each of those schedules. No wonder the SEC has won the past two championships. LSU is probably the 4th best team in the conference by most power rankings. What do you think they'll do to Oregon, CAL, and ASU? Your 2-4 best teams. PLEASE!!



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I have a suggestion. You should for once get out of your fantasy world and get out and play the teams you are so critical of instead of telling everyone how lousy they are and couldn't do squat. It's your wet dream that stands to be blown up. If that's what you are afraid of ruining, then just stay put and play nobody. You can dream on and tell us who would place where in your fantasies but never in reality. Meanwhile, the Pac-10 has the toughest non-conf schedule and your little circle jerk of teams will never take a risk like that. You above all should know what a cushy OOC schedule is.
 

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I have a suggestion. You should for once get out of your fantasy world and get out and play the teams you are so critical of instead of telling everyone how lousy they are and couldn't do squat. It's your wet dream that stands to be blown up. If that's what you are afraid of ruining, then just stay put and play nobody. You can dream on and tell us who would place where in your fantasies but never in reality. Meanwhile, the Pac-10 has the toughest non-conf schedule and your little circle jerk of teams will never take a risk like that. You above all should know what a cushy OOC schedule is.

Pac-1 was 0-4 vs the Mt West. Get real!
 

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Pac-1 was 0-4 vs the Mt West. Get real!

another one weekend genius... if they had gone 4-0 would you have come on here congratulating them... or would you come on here congratulating them for ANYTHING? My guess is that you'd crawl back into your hole and not be seen. Last year it was how few were drafted into the NFL because THAT above all was the real measure. Now they've had more players drafted into the NFL than any conference in '08, suddenly the MWC is the measure you chose to use. Your bias is hilarious.

I find it interesting and exciting that both the MWC and WAC have beaten a lot of BCS teams this year. It happened because the scholarship limit was cut to 85 which left more talent to play on scholarships outside of the BCS conferences. Simple.

This is my take on the Pac-10 this season... they lost a lot of talent to the NFL. BUT, I think there are AT THE VERY LEAST as many talented newcomers in the conference as anybody. Sure they are down. It's because they are young, not without talent. Huge talent... just very young. That is far more accurate an estimation of the conference than anything your biased and confused mind has offered this forum.
 

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another one weekend genius... if they had gone 4-0 would you have come on here congratulating them... or would you come on here congratulating them for ANYTHING? My guess is that you'd crawl back into your hole and not be seen. Last year it was how few were drafted into the NFL because THAT above all was the real measure. Now they've had more players drafted into the NFL than any conference in '08, suddenly the MWC is the measure you chose to use. Your bias is hilarious.

I find it interesting and exciting that both the MWC and WAC have beaten a lot of BCS teams this year. It happened because the scholarship limit was cut to 85 which left more talent to play on scholarships outside of the BCS conferences. Simple.

This is my take on the Pac-10 this season... they lost a lot of talent to the NFL. BUT, I think there are AT THE VERY LEAST as many talented newcomers in the conference as anybody. Sure they are down. It's because they are young, not without talent. Huge talent... just very young. That is far more accurate an estimation of the conference than anything your biased and confused mind has offered this forum.

Here's your bottom line: USC will be the only BCS team from this abortion of a conference. The Holiday Bowl rep will get whooped like always
 

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And here's your bottom line.

It takes a real jock with an attitude to dance over the Ducks countless injuries and the crutches of Dennis Dixon when the Ducks were headed for a NC game... then go into hiding when they come back and beat, no not beat but throttle a good ACC team with a top defense from USF, with Oregon playing a 5th string QB.

Tell me, were you also celebrating quietly to yourself when Costa and Roper went down this year so you could dance some more? You sound like you are warming up for it. We'll see how you play this one as the season progresses. My bet is that you will harass them again despite their injuries piling up like last season.

Have fun... your kind of fun.
 
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another one weekend genius...

this is a classic case of defensive posturing...you can spin this all you want with puns, cliche's, etc. the fact is that year after year everyone that doubts your conference are indeed geniuses. Did I or did I not fade both Cal and Oregon for my biggest plays on Saturday (well ECU fade was also a biggie). So if your intent is to be condescending when implying genius in your cliche then I thank you for your unintended compliment.
 

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this is a classic case of defensive posturing...you can spin this all you want with puns, cliche's, etc. the fact is that year after year everyone that doubts your conference are indeed geniuses. Did I or did I not fade both Cal and Oregon for my biggest plays on Saturday (well ECU fade was also a biggie). So if your intent is to be condescending when implying genius in your cliche then I thank you for your unintended compliment.

No you missed my point which was that it's dumb to make a case on a single weekend. I felt something when I woke up in the morning, like having under slept or gotten up too early and it took until noon before I felt up to speed. I also want to point out that I NEVER try to play one conference off vs another. But I will respond to disrespect and ignorance. Conference superiority is idle chat to me.

Specific strengths and weaknesses among conference opponents is what is valuable. Other than that, conference superiority has nothing to do with any given game on a given Saturday. I'm basically here to share my knowledge of who I follow and try to post some winning sides. Constantly bashed by Pac-10 conference "know it alls" who live thousands of miles away and who often go down in a heap to many people's satisfaction.

And, when I hear all the SEC pundits hoot and holler over their conferences "top to bottom" superiority over all CFB, it means one thing to me and one thing only. They have regressed to a place where their bruised egos need to explain their own team's shortcomings and they take some twisted sort of pride in this "life they lead" which nobody can possibly understand. Only someone who is full of themselves to a fault in a prideful way probably could.

But then when you look at things like head-to-head competition, it all falls apart because it's bullshit. Every player in the SEC gets up and puts their pants on one leg at a time like everyone else.

So instead of just saying things like USC would lose 2 games a year if they played in the SEC, also try saying that Florida would lose 2 games a year if they played in the Pac-10. That is just as realistic. If you don't think so, you are not a handicapper who's plays should be followed because you are too headstrong to be trusted.

What is real is that next year's winners are immature young losers this year. That is true in every conference so it's meaningless to evaluate them with a snapshot weekend as a basis of comparison. After the 8th week, even a lot of today's losers start playing well.
 
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I know you intend well Conan and I apologize if I come on a little vain sometimes. I simply just enjoy getting under peoples skins when I see pride being the overriding factor to their argument. I'm the last person you should be preaching the perception angle to. As for you thinking that I missed your point about being one week I didn't. ASU this week (as I stated I would weeks ago) is case and point that I not only find one week outcomes being immaterial but that I attempt to capitalize on them.

The fact that the SEC has the most talent really doesn't change my way of capping games so I find it irrelevant really. We can beat this dead horse all night, every night but in the end we're gonna view things as we see them. Top to bottom, this match-up instead of this one, scheduling, recruiting base, monopolies etc. It makes for OK discussion but really doesn't bring home the bacon.

I'm well aware of your intent on the forum and I commend you for it. I think that from now on I will get back to doing what I do best. Learning from people like yourself, GoSooners, Boxslayer, etc. and use it to help further my goals.

GL to you.

P.S. ASU +7.5 sounds good to you?
 

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