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I'm going strictly on web info.
I've not gone and don't plan on going in.

Murph obviously did.

And then rubberized this thread?
 

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moved to the fucking RR?? this place is just unbelievable....grown men cant have even a slightly controversial conversation or argument without a mod stepping in and exerting control....

such a huge turnoff....I know the standard responses will be the following, "the owner likes what we are doing" "if you don't like it leave" etc.....
 

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and unfortunately this is why many good posters wont come back here....its like a high school with power tripping hall monitors....
 

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moved to the fucking RR?? this place is just unbelievable....grown men cant have even a slightly controversial conversation or argument without a mod stepping in and exerting control....

such a huge turnoff....I know the standard responses will be the following, "the owner likes what we are doing" "if you don't like it leave" etc.....


sorry man...but here is the reason why i moved it myself..
1. because of CP -- it will never be okay to post info about that and having something even refer to it on an open public forum is quite dis-tasteful..
2. I dove into the realness of "dark net" a bit and think it has crossed the line somewhat ...i didnt really want to type about it..


this is a public forum.. not everyone here is a grown man as u suggest because I can go onto offshore forum as an 8yr old and click whatever i want , whereas logging in to view rubber room is a different story and it clearly warns of a no-hold's barred place.. but even then we wouldnt condone hardcore porn, death, criminal activities, and most definitely Never CP or anything close.. so its on thin-ice as it is. imo

ur honestly lucky the thread is still up.. every second that goes by I consider deleting it for good...



BTW - crazy government files and things u will never understand nor see would require you to be much more informed than u are..people there have a presence for years...and to view classified info u still have to have security clearance at whatever level to view anything...so although files might exist..gl reading them..u are not a hacker and if u do attempt it u will more than likely be no longer... (erased/arrested/etc ).

-murph
 

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You seemed to have gotten around in there and it has affected you.
It's obvious you would need logins, hacker skills, etc to get to the deepest parts-how do people gain this access if they don't know each other personally?
I'm assuming there are forums/rooms where people who are looking for someone or something congregate, but even then-it seems you would actually have to know someone. And with that logic, it is difficult to understand how that particular sect could grow and stay discrete at the same time.
 

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Why don't you delete all cp or any other references you deem defiling in here and move it back up top?
The topic itself is gold; if you hadn't had your prior experiences, you might have not been so trigger happy to move it.
 

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You seemed to have gotten around in there and it has affected you.
It's obvious you would need logins, hacker skills, etc to get to the deepest parts-how do people gain this access if they don't know each other personally?
I'm assuming there are forums/rooms where people who are looking for someone or something congregate, but even then-it seems you would actually have to know someone. And with that logic, it is difficult to understand how that particular sect could grow and stay discrete at the same time.


I do not visit dark net personally. I know people who have and I have basically stated every reason not to use it because of all the trouble it can cause.... there is many places to achieve the things I personally use on the mainstream web and when one such site that allows downloads of movies/sports streams/etc goes down another 10 pop up to replace it.

-murph
 

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i definitely dont like the CP talk at all guys.. the rest of this I will try to be clear...

i dont recommend it at all because many people might try and do this and either mess-up something while attempting to get there or once there they will be shocked and regret doing some things and/or they might get themselves into serious trouble.... this is an entirely different world there and I cant imagine much positive can come of it... I doubt anyone considering going there is going to do research on something helpful.. its more of a haven for criminals/feds/hackers/terrorists/etc and definitely is dominated by the worst kind of pedophiles and that is just absolutely disgusting

Firm recommendation.. don't toy around there.. don't even consider going.. i can all but promise that you will not enjoy it anyway.. you might learn one new thing but be grossed out by several hundred to find that new idea.... not really worth it.

btw guys.its made up of millions of sites you never heard of and google doesnt web crawl them for data... nothing really insanely different on some sites there than a private torrent site you might be a member of (as far as the looks)... but you will inadvertently have to go through things you don't want to get info you might be curious of.. and trust me its not worth it :ohno: ..

beyond that its very tough and/or "impossible" for most of the people who would try to access things further than the torrent type sites I mentioned without real knowledge to go along with "here is the dark net" ...

-murph

all of the above is the very reason I said this thread should deleted. An average computer user venturing into the deep web is the equivalent of sending out a 3 year old to the frontline in a world war.

the natural curiosity of a human would cause that human to delve into the deep web based on this thread.
if you get deep into to its not a stetch for someone that does not know any better to get there id stolen, arrested, or even killed in some cases.
 

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moved to the fucking RR?? this place is just unbelievable....grown men cant have even a slightly controversial conversation or argument without a mod stepping in and exerting control....

such a huge turnoff....I know the standard responses will be the following, "the owner likes what we are doing" "if you don't like it leave" etc.....

I agree with you 99% of the time.
trust me. A thread like this could ruin someone's life.
 

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Can you exchange these bit coins for real currency? Fascinating stuff here...it has peeked my curiosity but the risk doesn't seem worth it. I don't even do drugs but that silk road sounds pretty cool. I am also interested in the anon group even though I don't know the first thing about hacking. Sounds like a good place to get busted by the fed or worse if you mess up...although I wouldn't mind someone who really understands it explaining more/showing some things to me.
 

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moved to the fucking RR?? this place is just unbelievable....grown men cant have even a slightly controversial conversation or argument without a mod stepping in and exerting control....

such a huge turnoff....I know the standard responses will be the following, "the owner likes what we are doing" "if you don't like it leave" etc.....

could not agree more with you....but having viewed it first hand.... i have to side w/murphy here....like i stated previously, the mans system i viewed what i did looked like something out of a NASA space station...this dude was definitely wired on a different level than most i have come aross
 

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Can you exchange these bit coins for real currency? Fascinating stuff here...it has peeked my curiosity but the risk doesn't seem worth it. I don't even do drugs but that silk road sounds pretty cool. I am also interested in the anon group even though I don't know the first thing about hacking. Sounds like a good place to get busted by the fed or worse if you mess up...although I wouldn't mind someone who really understands it explaining more/showing some things to me.



ditto, whats to gain?
 

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im not going to lie this is like a little seed planted in my brain that is growing....i want to see it
 

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im not going to lie this is like a little seed planted in my brain that is growing....i want to see it

It's not that exciting. Plus things load slow as shit so navigating through it is like being back on dial up.
 

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It's not that exciting. Plus things load slow as shit so navigating through it is like being back on dial up.
Although, I love the BC Rich as your avatar...from what I saw and maybe it was the guys system I saw it on, I have to say it was not slow and jaw dropping to be putting it mildly...cheers
 

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Although, I love the BC Rich as your avatar...from what I saw and maybe it was the guys system I saw it on, I have to say it was not slow and jaw dropping to be putting it mildly...cheers

The guitar is a Jackson Warrior and my computer is not slow and neither is my internet connection, so that wasn't it. :)

A lot of the stuff hosted on the deep Web are on shitty servers in someones basement. Trust me, it's slow, unless you turn off loading of images in your browser, that will speed it up. You will also find that a lot of sites have a lot of down time, probably due to the shitty servers they are hosted on. Also URL's change a lot.

And sure, seeing a hit man advertising to "solve your problem" for you for the right price is jaw dropping, If you believe all that shit is real.
 

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By Pablo Albarracín and Christopher Holloway
AMERICA ECONOMIA/Worldcrunch

SANTIAGO - "The visible web is the tip of the iceberg," says Anand Rajaraman, co-founder of Kosmix, a search engine for the Deep Web (DW).

One of Kosmix’ investors is none other than Jeff Bezos, CEO of Amazon. The iceberg sounds daunting, but Rajaraman seems to know what he's talking about. How is it possible that everything we know about the Internet is only a tiny portion of it?

The Deep Web is the invisible part of the Internet. To put it in simpler terms, it is the part of the web that cannot be indexed by search engines, a place where Google does not go: a "dark" web with limited access.

"The DW is made up of large amounts of information that has been posted online and that for technical reasons has not been catalogued or updated by search engines," says Alfonso A. Kejaya Muñoz, Security Researcher at McAfee Chile. Studies have shown that the Deep Web represents 90% of the Internet.

For those who started using the Internet in its early days, before search engines or web portals even existed, navigating the Deep Web is like a blast from the past. It is hard to find what you are looking for, you need more than a passing knowledge of computer science, and you will have to write down the exact addresses of the sites you manage to find, and stock them in your bookmarks, because it is not easy to remember pages with URLs like SdddEEDOHIIDdddgmomiunw.onion (the usual format in this territory).

"The Deep Web began in 1994 and was known as the 'Hidden Web.' It was renamed ‘Deep Web’ in 2001," says Kejaya Muñoz. "However, some people believe that the origin of the Deep Web goes back to the 1990s, with the creation of 'Onion Routing' by the United States Naval Research Laboratory, which was the first step toward the Tor Project.”

Tor (short for The Onion Router) is the main portal to the Deep Web. It encrypts the user's information, in layers like an onion's, and sends it to a wide network of volunteer servers all over the world. This technique makes it almost impossible to track users or their information.

Offering anonymity and freedom, the Deep Web has transformed over the years into a deep, almost inhospitable, little-explored information repository that can host anything from the most innocent content to the most ruthless and unthinkable. Within the Deep Web are private intranets protected with passwords, as well as documents in formats that cannot be indexed, encyclopedias, dictionaries, journals, etc. But that is not all.

A dark abyss

Satnam Narang, Manager of Symantec Security Response, says that because the Deep Web is hidden from view, it is an especially attractive place for shady activities. Many cybercriminals gather in places like private forums with restricted access.

Many users are already familiar with the Internet's dark side: how to download music illegally, where to see the latest movies for free, or how to order prescription drugs for a little extra money. But the Deep Web goes farther. Almost unimaginably farther.

Child pornography, arms trafficking, drugs, hired assassins, prostitutes, terrorism, etc., all make the Deep Web the largest black market ever to exist.

"On the Deep Web you can find sites that sell stolen credit cards, teams that will clone credit cards through ATMs, people selling cocaine, and more," says Dmitry Bestuzhev, director of Kaspersky Lab's team of analysts.

Of course, not all uses of the Deep Web sites are "evil." It has also been very helpful to citizens who find their personal liberties threatened, or who are being watched by government agencies. WikiLeaks is an example of one of the uses of the Deep Web. In the beginning, and for a long time, the WikiLeaks site operated in the Deep Web, before it went public. Even today, if someone wants to blow the whistle or upload information to WikiLeaks, it is possible to publish it on the Deep Web.

Another example is the group Anonymous, which has used Tor to organize massive attacks on all kinds of organizations. It uses the Deep Web not only for direct actions but also to organize itself.

Naturally, it did not take long before this kind of network attracted the attention of the security agencies of various governments. How could they let organizations operate freely, without being hindered by censorship?

One of the most obvious examples is Silk Road, a secret web for buying and selling all kinds of drugs. It is estimated that Silk Road makes more than $22 million a year, and police agencies worldwide are scrambling to come up with strategies to stop the online traffic.

Recently, the Australian Federal Police and the Australian Customs and Border Protection Service started a joint operation to intercept transactions on Silk Road. Since September 5, detectives have intercepted over 30 packets containing approximately 0.5kg of cannabis, around 200g of synthetic cannabis, around 5g of methylamphetamine, 1g of cocaine, around 400 tabs of LSD and 30 ecstasy tablets, the agency told the Border Mail newspaper. In April, the U.S. DEA was also reported to have taken action against drug trafficking on the Deep Web.

The problem is that the transactions can be intercepted, but dismantling the network or tracking the users is almost impossible.

There have already been attempts to regulate the Deep Web and Tor. Recently the government of Ethiopia said it has installed security systems that block access to Tor in Ethiopia, to avoid illegal activity and Skype connections, which are regulated there. The effectiveness of that technology is not yet known.

Last year, amid the maelstrom of protests and publicity around the proposed SOPA bill (Stop Online Piracy Act), one section of the bill went largely unnoticed: It could make it illegal to distribute Tor and other software that can "circumvent" attempts by the U.S. government to block pirate Web site -- something that has Tor users quite worried.

But government and police concern goes beyond trying to destroy or restrict these networks. According to Wired, the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) has plans to use them for cyber espionage. “The deep web contains government reports, databases, and other sources of information of high value to the Department of Defense and the intelligence community,” said a 2010 Defense Science Board report. Alternative tools are needed to find and index data in the deep web … Stealing the classified secrets of a potential adversary is where the [intelligence] community is most comfortable.”
 

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