THE MLB CHALLENGE:UPDATE AS OF:ENDING 07-27-03 (With Jake)

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Seriously, would any of you guys appreciate someone telling you one thing and then turning around and not holding their word?
 

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jake face it

you sold out and went tout.

then you sold out on this site.

face it buddy. if you are not going to post your picks here no one cares about you.

post your shit in site promos

just a fact jake

good luck with what you deceide

panther
 

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I gave out my free picks last season in MLB and won the challenge with some 35 units. I'm giving them out for free this year and am up a good amount again (enough to easily lead the challenge) and none of you care I'm helping people make money. ALot of you guys are egocentric.
 

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jake

if a person played with you for a full year and paid you plus the juice.

wood they at least be even???

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Since the beginning of the last MLB season until now I am up some 15 units.
 

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sorry jake

one more???

how many cleints would be willing to bet big mony when they know you are betting 25 dollar units???

the worse thing about it is you are fvcking with the rx on top of it

panther
 

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jake

if you want to be respected here post your plays here.

ken is a good guy

but if you keep it up you will be sitting with dog

guess it is your choice

panther
 

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What does it matter what I bet? If I bet more I'd still see the same value on the plays... Wanna explain that one panther? Just because I don't bet alot and have all those TV's like yourself doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about...
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jake Thompson:

I actually got Atlanta -110 & KC -103 last night. All my picks are done overnight, and since you don't sound familiar with overnight lines, I'll tell you a little about it. I post my picks before I go to bed and most of the lines I get on move a good 10-15 points on average in my favor. Anyone that wants to copy the picks in the AM can do so, they are never changed. You can check for yourself. I know people have done it to me already when questioned about it and I invite you to do the same. Is it my fault for capping overnight to get the best line? Should I be faulted for getting a better line? Not in my opinion...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Jake, you are a fraud, and the numbers you post are a fraudulent as well. Why don't you post where you get your numbers? Why don't you post what sportsbooks you have accounts with? According to your past posts you claim to have a $1000 bankroll. Yet you daily dredge up numbers that aren't available at the most popular sportsbooks (like Pinnacle, 5dimes, WSex). Are we to assume that you have your money in obscure offshore accounts? Or you use "locals" like the Rodfather?

Congrats Jake, you found a loophole in this contest. TRK relies on ethical behavior from its participants; obviously you are taking advantage of this. You remind me of the poker player caught dealing a cold deck. After his "victim" pulled out 4 aces, the cheater shouted in outrage: "Those aren't the cards I dealt you". Keep up the fine work Jake. Those that understand how betting works understand how much of a fraud you are. Those that don't, caveat emptor.
 

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Shotgun, you bring up some good points about the lines. I noticed that early on in the contest and therefore I immediately stopped looking at his picks.

I am glad someone is calling him on this.
 

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Shotgun and Hector- That's a very interesting observation. I never looked that closely at his plays before. How long has he been doing this?
 

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Shotgun, since you obviously have no idea how to line shop or cap overnight to get the best line (as many people on this board knowingly do), I invite you to check Don Best as they track all the line movements. If you can't find a line of mine on there, then you can talk. Just because you are too naive to get a better line doesn't mean I'm a cheat.
 

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Would it help you guys up if I did my picks like this?

Example:

Braves -110
Pitchers; Ortiz/Oswalt
Bet Braves until line moves to Braves -125

Would that be better?

The lines I get usually move 10-15 points overnight. Not my fault.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The Rooster:
You should post the line you actually bet you stupid fvck

ROOSTER<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you check out much Pinnacle overnight lines move when the game's begin the next day you'd be pleasantly surprised.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jake Thompson:
If you check out much Pinnacle overnight lines move when the game's begin the next day you'd be pleasantly surprised.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you bet the overnight lines or not? Post what you bet, if not, go over to wagerline

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I bet overnight lines about 75% of the time. Last night I passed out before I capped so no overnight lines for today's games I'm getting too. It's not uncommon for me to cap at 5 AM EST and get a -110 only to wake up and see it at -120 the next morning. It's not my fault I cap when I do and get a superior line... I shouldn't get shit for it.
 

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That's fine, but if you are touting picks, then you should post a line that's available when you post, not 5 am ET. This practice is often called a "Fraudfather" or "Fraudiak"

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Okay I see what you're saying. What do you think of the idea I posed before? If I posted my picks like this:

Atlanta -110
Pitchers: Ortiz/Oswalt
Bet ATL Until -120

Totals may get tricky to do it that way but I could try it out.
 

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Jake if what you say is true and the average line you get is 10 to 15 cents better, then over 600 plays you ar looking at appox. 42 units difference (and that is being conservative) between your price and the final price. Which would mean unless I bet overnight at your price I would be down 15 units right now using your picks. Is that correct?
 

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