The Iraq war has cost my town 91 million, how much has it cost yours?

[GoSooners]

1. False. Japan is our largest Treasury debt holder. China holds close to 500 billion in U.S. debt. ...so what? Are they going to flush their dollars down the toilet to hurt us? And themselves? Of course not...ridiculous premise. Those dollars will come back to the US as investment. In fact they already are if you are paying attention. It's a non issue, pedaled by economic ignorance.

2. The cost of the war is known. It's a little over 500 billion. Not a trillion...not 3 trillion...a little over 500 billion. Libs love to come up with all kinds of complete bull shit theories to try to inflate it into a shock headline. How about using the actual figure?

And don't give us all these figures about increased health costs ect...the VA is already here...the infastructure is already here...the costs are part of a system already here. Quit peddling more bull shit.

3. Our GDP has increased substantially under the Bush administration. If you use the defecit figures...then I also get to use the higher GDP figures that allow us to pay it. The real defecit is not much higher than Clintons peak defecit. But I know you will never understand...because Libs have blinders for the debt...they never even consider the income side of the ledger. Dumb...I can't help you if you are that freakin dumb. It's all relative to each other. Never mind that Bush brought in record tax revenues...our debt burden is considerably less now than under Clinton...but you won't get that either.

4. The war has been argued to death...jesus...get over it. You lost 2 elections that could have changed things...but you lost. Get it?

Quit being a GD baby and deal with it. There were plenty of reasons for the Iraq war based on the broken cease fire agreement alone.

But you won't get that either...

5. Anything else...now that I've thoroughly debunked your ass? :missingte

Any price you elect to put on this war is meaningless compared to the thousands of lives our soldiers have lost over there for no apparent reason. My bet is if those votes hadn't been stolen in Ohio and Florida, we'd still have those thousands of soldiers walking around alive today. And a few more happy kids having their fathers and mothers around.

 

[TheRightSide]

Any price you elect to put on this war is meaningless compared to the thousands of lives our soldiers have lost over there for no apparent reason. My bet is if those votes hadn't been stolen in Ohio and Florida, we'd still have those thousands of soldiers walking around alive today. And a few more happy kids having their fathers and mothers around.

Ah yes another loser that can't get over the last election. LOL Get over it. The surge is working and will continue to work. Lefties just stay out of the way and America will win.

 

[GoSooners]

Ah yes another loser that can't get over the last election. LOL Get over it. The surge is working and will continue to work. Lefties just stay out of the way and America will win.

Tell that to 3000 parentless families.

 

[koidog]

I really hope that you are being sarcastic when you typed this stuff!!!

Any man stupid enough to say that the cost of a war is the least relevant thing in debating wether or not a nation should go to war, should summarily be shot, drawn and quatered by his fellow citizen because that foolishness has brought down many nations!!

Again, it is clearly spelled out in the Constitution that the Country can raise money for war. If a war should be fought, I want the Money to be ZERO factor.

I think this whole thread is a joke. The idea that Federal Govt Money should be spent on most of the things listed is absurd. I guess it's more absurd that Federal Govt money is already being spent on the things listed.

We are in Debt because since the New Deal we have continually allowed our Federal Govt to take more and more money to use on their whims.

 

[TheRightSide]

Tell that to 3000 parentless families.

Should we have gone to war ever in the history of this country. Your arguement makes no sense. So we should have never gone to war using that arguement.

Tell that to all the inocent people that have been killed by terrorist.

 

[JoeContrarian]

I just spent the last 30 minutes researching and writing a reply only to have my browser lock up when I tried to Ctrl+C something in the reply box. It's not important enough to me to start all over again. Eff you, Bill Gates.

You tried that same bullshit with me after I took you to the cleaners debating your modern unscientific "flat earth" crackpot cult known as "Darwinism."

MR MJ, DEAC won't debate you anymore after that thorough disembowling.
Welcome to the club! :missingte

 

[GoSooners]

Should we have gone to war ever in the history of this country. Your arguement makes no sense. So we should have never gone to war using that arguement.

Tell that to all the inocent people that have been killed by terrorist.

Going to Iraq to start a war and defending our country are two different things...I'm sorry if you still believe the old Bush/Cheney plan B standby excuse of "we're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here." How patriotic.

 

[JoeContrarian]

59% of our budget (and growing and growing and growing) pissed down the drain on entitlements -- and the bleeding hearts want you to believe it's all because "Bush lied, kids died." hno:

As Koidog rightfully points out, the reason the country is in the fiscal mess it is in is quite simple:

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS TAKEN ON FUNCTIONS IT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO PERFORM AND WHICH IT DOES NOT PERFORM WELL!

If Americans are stupid enough to fall for this idiotic hysteria ("hope" and "change") then they deserve to lose everything, including their ability to house themselves and feed their families, because under a quasi-commie like Obama that's exactly what will happen.

You can't overhaul the entire economy and redistribute massive amounts of wealth without suffering catastrophic consequences.

McCain sucks -- but I'll be damned if I'm going to sit on my hands and take out my personal misgivings on him on the wonderful people in this country. I'm not just not that selfish and immature.

That website is a WACKIEST one I've seen to date! hno:

 

[barman]

Tell that to 3000 parentless families.

4400+ with another 50 to 100 every month for the next 100 years (thanks Mr McCain!)

 

[barman]

Should we have gone to war ever in the history of this country. Your arguement makes no sense. So we should have never gone to war using that arguement.

Tell that to all the inocent people that have been killed by terrorist.

Regardless of how many Iraqis and Afghans are murdered by the invading US military troops, not one single victim of terrorism anywhere in the world - and most especially the 2800 people who died on 9/11/01 - will suddenly be resurrected.

 

[mr21]

Tell that to all the inocent people that have been killed by terrorist.

Do you mean all of the terrorists from Iraq pre-9/11? Why aren't we invading Bush's buddies in Saudi Arabia who financed 9/11?

 

[JoeContrarian]

Do you mean all of the terrorists from Iraq pre-9/11? Why aren't we invading Bush's buddies in Saudi Arabia who financed 9/11?

Because the Saudi regime doesn't sponsor terrorism, whereas Saddam financed every terrorist on the CIA's hit list.

"No distinction between terrorists and those who harbor them."
-- President George W. Bush -- Sept 2001.

The President set a new doctrine and Saddam had it comin'.

*POW* *SMASH* BANG* *CRASH* yipekaye mother ******!

Really, it's not that complicated.

 

[barman]

MARK L proclaims: Because the Saudi regime doesn't sponsor terrorism....

SH: As far as you know. Which as a gambler I'd say isn't a whole hell of a lot about just who and what Saudi bigwigs do privately with their riches.

 

[nhoj]

The war cost my town 455 million or 4 hammers and one weilding helmet. Man sure cost the government alot to operate these days. My hammer was 19.99.

 

[Mistermj]

Tell that to 3000 parentless families.

If it was really important to you...rather than just a lame and crass political football for you to kick around...you would have been climbing up Clintons ass.

More soldiers died under Clinton than in Iraq.

You guys are so freakin lame with this phony crap that you care about the soldiers.

Service men and women take on the risks when they sign up for service...if we had a draft you "might" have a point.

Maybe.

 

[Willie99]

Do you mean all of the terrorists from Iraq pre-9/11? Why aren't we invading Bush's buddies in Saudi Arabia who financed 9/11?

because the Saudi's arrest known terrorists

because the Saudi's killed the crown princes connected to Al-Q

because the Saudi's have been victims of attacks from Al-Q

Saudi Arabia is not Iraq, but I'm not surprised you don't know this

 

[PatPatriot]

I'm one of those small "c" conservatives who was for the war before I was against it.
IMO.It was an overall disaster due to poor planning and miscalculations of everything from a-z.
The UN is just as responible for their failure to act on Saddam and the WMD.While they ran their backdoor "oil for food"scam. Just like the UN's failure to deal with Iran's nuclear ambitions now.

The one correct thing that Bush has done and maybe keeps him from being the worst President of all times by leaps and bounds is the overall aggresive position against terrorism.Now he iis just debatably the worst.
The thing is now thats all behind us.to me its stupid to quit Iraq while it looks like you can salvage something out of it.