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You think the cost is irrelevant? This war has cost One trillion dollars and has been financed by China. In other words, we in hoc up to our necks with our ideological enemy. With this, George Bush has added more to the national debt than every other president before him combined.
All this to go to war with a country that was not a threat to us.
And you're ok with that?
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Disgusting when you think about it.
Taxpayers in Toledo, Ohio will pay $505.2 million for total Iraq war spending approved to date. For the same amount of money, the following could have been provided:
179,051 People with Health Care for One Year OR
565,755 Homes with Renewable Electricity for One Year OR
11,439 Public Safety Officers for One year OR
7,735 Music and Arts Teachers for One Year OR
58,286 Scholarships for University Students for One Year OR
4,711 Affordable Housing Units OR
303,784 Children with Health Care for One Year OR
78,649 Head Start Places for Children for One Year OR
8,050 Elementary School Teachers for One Year OR
8,870 Port Container Inspectors for One year
uke1:
Taxpayers in Toledo, Ohio will pay $505.2 million for total Iraq war spending approved to date. For the same amount of money, the following could have been provided:
179,051 People with Health Care for One Year OR
uke1:
1. We are paying for the war via deficit financing. China is our largest debt holder. What about this is not true?
2. Factoring in what we have spent so far, the $200 million a day the war costs, and the health care costs associated with returning troops, the $1 trillion estimate is actually conservative. Some are as high as $3 trillion. What about this is not true?
3. "George Bush has added more to the national debt than every other president before him combined" I will give you this one. What I should have said is that George Bush increased the National Debt more than any other president. When he took office, the debt was $5,727.776.738,304.64. After 6.5 years of the Bush presidency, it stood at $8,835,268,597,181.95, an increase of 54%. As of today, it's about $9.5 trillion. Is this better?
4. How was a country with no WMD a threat to the U.S.? If you dispute this, please explain how Iraq was such a threat to justify a pre-emptive invasion.
No offense intended my friend. All my 67 vet buddies here agreed
that if our leaders would have used forces wisely as in a war to kill
all enemy as fast as possible and destroy all enemy personal and take their ground and hold it all secure in a bold war like fashion it would be over and then our brave troops would have had more control to
CONTINUE the police action.. Have you been involved in offensive
overwhelm ALL enemy war? Two countrys spread their forces in groups
all over two countries in Iraq and AFF. Then some super brave troops
found the main enemy killer of 911 and your President ala Jackass
Cheny called
them off instead of overwhelming that entire target in force. I'm
mad about it too but I will not defend intentional failure of COMMAND
with WAR. I say it out loud---Cheny is our coward and the most dangerous human in the world. I say it cause it is so and I love every
soldier out there. I happen to know two soldiers who were there. They
are in our group. Personally, Cheny could have kissed my ass, I'd shut off
the radio and not stopped til that little bush buddie hidden in his mountain
hotel hole was nothing more than rotted blood and smoke. That's WAR!
And the ---war--- would have turned into a legitimate "police cleanup"
after that.:hitting: If you did not hear U.S. OIL / CHENY got their oil
rights last week. Bush/Cheny admitted to you they do'nt much care
where BIN LADIN is. Get it now???:think2:
It's cool.
THis is a fucked up shitcan over there.
I agree I liked it when war was total destruction of the whole fucking country and let them fuck themselves. Make it a fucking parking lot if you hve to.
I also agree Bin Laden should have been killed and dragged behind a damn camel. Let the whole world see what we will do to these fucks. Let them know we mean fucking business and we will kill and destroy everything in the way to kill them all.
THis is a fucked up shitcan over there.
I agree I liked it when war was total destruction of the whole fucking country and let them fuck themselves. Make it a fucking parking lot if you hve to.
I also agree Bin Laden should have been killed and dragged behind a damn camel. Let the whole world see what we will do to these fucks. Let them know we mean fucking business and we will kill and destroy everything in the way to kill them all.
I am not a rightie. So lets get that right.
I was unable to serve this great country. I tried to enlist in the Navy. For medical reasons I could not join.
War is war if your going to do it. Do it to win and blow the hell out of everybody that moves.
Is that good enough for you DocPunter. And yes that is an insult.
I was unable to serve this great country. I tried to enlist in the Navy. For medical reasons I could not join.
War is war if your going to do it. Do it to win and blow the hell out of everybody that moves.
Is that good enough for you DocPunter. And yes that is an insult.
I really hope that you are being sarcastic when you typed this stuff!!!
Any man stupid enough to say that the cost of a war is the least relevant thing in debating wether or not a nation should go to war, should summarily be shot, drawn and quatered by his fellow citizen because that foolishness has brought down many nations!!
1. False. Japan is our largest Treasury debt holder. China holds close to 500 billion in U.S. debt. ...so what? Are they going to flush their dollars down the toilet to hurt us? And themselves? Of course not...ridiculous premise. Those dollars will come back to the US as investment. In fact they already are if you are paying attention. It's a non issue, pedaled by economic ignorance.
2. The cost of the war is known. It's a little over 500 billion. Not a trillion...not 3 trillion...a little over 500 billion. Libs love to come up with all kinds of complete bull shit theories to try to inflate it into a shock headline. How about using the actual figure?
And don't give us all these figures about increased health costs ect...the VA is already here...the infastructure is already here...the costs are part of a system already here. Quit peddling more bull shit.
3. Our GDP has increased substantially under the Bush administration. If you use the defecit figures...then I also get to use the higher GDP figures that allow us to pay it. The real defecit is not much higher than Clintons peak defecit. But I know you will never understand...because Libs have blinders for the debt...they never even consider the income side of the ledger. Dumb...I can't help you if you are that freakin dumb. It's all relative to each other. Never mind that Bush brought in record tax revenues...our debt burden is considerably less now than under Clinton...but you won't get that either.
4. The war has been argued to death...jesus...get over it. You lost 2 elections that could have changed things...but you lost. Get it?
Quit being a GD baby and deal with it. There were plenty of reasons for the Iraq war based on the broken cease fire agreement alone.
But you won't get that either...
5. Anything else...now that I've thoroughly debunked your ass? :missingte
Here's my county again (the most densely populated in Florida). But this time, I'm breaking it down by fifths to illustrate the 5+ years of domestic assets we exchange in return for occupying and attempting to rule (the latter a key distinction between our military priorities in countries like Germany, Japan and South Korea) the two sovereign nations of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Taxpayers in Pinellas County, Florida will pay $2 billion for total Iraq war spending approved to date
For the same amount of money, the following could have been annually provided for a five year period:
140,000 People with Health Care OR
279,000 Homes with Renewable Electricity OR
9,150 Public Safety Officers OR
6300 Music and Arts Teachers OR
123,500 Scholarships for University Students OR
2850 Affordable Housing Units OR
219,000 Children with Health Care OR
13,500 Head Start Places for Children OR
6600 Elementary School Teachers OR
4800 Port Container Inspectors
Not that big a deal, eh? Of course we represent about 1/3 of 1% of the US population. We can probably get by without all that stuff for another four to eight, or maybe ONE HUNDRED YEARS, eh Mr McCain?
I'm thinking I should just blank out the complaints about increased elementary school teachers and Head Start programs.
After all, our current CinC has demonstrated by his very behavior that literacy is not as much a priority in our country as is raising patriotic young soldiers.
Taxpayers in Pinellas County, Florida will pay $2 billion for total Iraq war spending approved to date
For the same amount of money, the following could have been annually provided for a five year period:
140,000 People with Health Care OR
279,000 Homes with Renewable Electricity OR
9,150 Public Safety Officers OR
6300 Music and Arts Teachers OR
123,500 Scholarships for University Students OR
2850 Affordable Housing Units OR
219,000 Children with Health Care OR
13,500 Head Start Places for Children OR
6600 Elementary School Teachers OR
4800 Port Container Inspectors
Not that big a deal, eh? Of course we represent about 1/3 of 1% of the US population. We can probably get by without all that stuff for another four to eight, or maybe ONE HUNDRED YEARS, eh Mr McCain?
I'm thinking I should just blank out the complaints about increased elementary school teachers and Head Start programs.
After all, our current CinC has demonstrated by his very behavior that literacy is not as much a priority in our country as is raising patriotic young soldiers.
I just spent the last 30 minutes researching and writing a reply only to have my browser lock up when I tried to Ctrl+C something in the reply box. It's not important enough to me to start all over again. Eff you, Bill Gates.
Here's the bottom line, I was wrong about point #1, and you are wrong about everything else. You'll just have to take my word for it.
