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people living in poverty
high school drop outs
people earning less than 50k
demographics voting over 90% for one party, one is systematically controlled (as if they were slaves) and the other controls the message
people who don't pay taxes
people who want free stuff
lifetime victims

those are the brilliant people that keep one party in power, they're the difference makers

their biggest payday may be when they're paid to protest or paid to occupy seats
 
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people living in poverty
high school drop outs
people earning less than 50k
demographics voting over 90% for one party, one is systematically controlled (as if they were slaves) and the other controls the message
people who don't pay taxes
people who want free stuff
lifetime victims

those are the brilliant people that keep one party in power, they're the difference makers

their biggest payday may be when they're paid to protest or paid to occupy seats

Why would any young person want to be Republican knowing this how a good chunk of the party thinks? I'm a guy who probably votes Republican 80% of the time and posts like this make me hate the party.
 

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people living in poverty
high school drop outs
people earning less than 50k
demographics voting over 90% for one party, one is systematically controlled (as if they were slaves) and the other controls the message
people who don't pay taxes
people who want free stuff
lifetime victims

those are the brilliant people that keep one party in power, they're the difference makers

their biggest payday may be when they're paid to protest or paid to occupy seats

It really is amazing how much you equate money to the value of a person. And you don't even see how ridiculous you look. I know people earning less than 30k a year I would trust over people I know with considerable wealth.

Plus.....you have done things worse to your own customers than the majority of voters you continually bash.

get a clue
 

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the more you make, the more likely you are to be a Republican
the more you experience in life, the more likely you are to be a Republican
the more stable your family life, the more likely you are to be a Republican
the more money and time and blood you donate, the more likely you are to be a Republican
the more you WORK, the more likely to be a Republican
if you volunteered for military service, the more likely you are to be a Republican

the more dysfunctional your family life, the more likely you are to be a democrat
the poorer you are, the more likely you are to be a democrat
the less you've worked, the more likely you are to be a democrat
when you have no idea what a good economy is, the more likely you are to be a democrat Loser!@#0
the more naive and inexperienced you are, the more likely you are to be a democrat
when you try to disqualify military votes while trying to enable felons to vote, you[re a democrat
if you live in poor and violent neighborhoods, you're a democrat
if you don't pay taxes, you're a democrat Loser!@#0
if you fly foreign flags more so than American flags while living off the work of others, you're a democrat Loser!@#0
if you think killing police officers is justified, you're a democrat Loser!@#0


and they call Republicans stupid face)(*^%
 

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Why would any young person want to be Republican knowing this how a good chunk of the party thinks? I'm a guy who probably votes Republican 80% of the time and posts like this make me hate the party.


I'm going to suggest you may want to keep priorities in order, because the bleeding hearts don't see how rough the game of politics is being played are contributing to the problems we have

what we need is a dose of reality, but one party stays in power by keeping people uneducated, uninformed and growing up in dysfunctional families. It's why they create social warfare, it's their only path to retaining power. And that party gets to control the message

facts are facts


PS: and that young person you speak of becomes a republican with experience and wisdom
 
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I'm going to suggest you may want to keep priorities in order, because the bleeding hearts don't see how rough the game of politics is being played are contributing to the problems we have

what we need is a dose of reality, but one party stays in power by keeping people uneducated, uninformed and growing up in dysfunctional families. It's why they create social warfare, it's their only path to retaining power. And that party gets to control the message

facts are facts


PS: and that young person you speak of becomes a republican with experience and wisdom

So basically you become a Republican when you are an old white man? Ya, good luck winning elections.
 

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So basically you become a Republican when you are an old white man? Ya, good luck winning elections.

we need an educated working taxpaying economy, that will help too. But there's too much resistance trying to get there

and I concur, we need a lot of luck with that too, it's hard to overcome that easy-street promise

damn, it's been working for 50 years now, why should it stop now



we will never have a color free, biased free, economically free society until all of that nonsense is no longer used for political advantage. How likely do you think that's going to happen?

some politicians need racism and class warfare to survive, it's their political life's blood
 

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I'm going to suggest you may want to keep priorities in order, because the bleeding hearts don't see how rough the game of politics is being played are contributing to the problems we have

what we need is a dose of reality, but one party stays in power by keeping people uneducated, uninformed and growing up in dysfunctional families. It's why they create social warfare, it's their only path to retaining power. And that party gets to control the message

facts are facts


PS: and that young person you speak of becomes a republican with experience and wisdom
Of course the older you get at this point in history the more conservative you become. Because any budget cuts or sacrifice in society is not being asked of them by either political party. Those 60's progressives can easily vote GOP now. 70% of GOP voters want no reforms to the fastest growing portion of the budget.

Medicare till the casket drops

Social security

bloated pensions at the state level that drive up in-state tuition costs and constrain budgets

bloated union benefits that stifle industry and government. In some states people pay 2-3x more to get their benefits now because they were so low in the past.

Greenspan interest rate manipulation running wild making home buying more difficult for average person and exacerbating income inequality.

So given how liberal much of the older GOP base is, I can see why someone would just shit all over that ideology and vote Dem. Might as well get your own free/subsidized shit.

At this point it is easy for the Dems to peddle this socialist utopian message to young people, since we already gave it to many of their parents.

Telling an entire generation of people that saving money was no longer important because the government has your back was a huge mistake and is setting the tone for much of what we see today.
 

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Wow, I typed that in like 30 seconds. Had no idea it was so long. That is ML dog level.
 

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mantis, serious question

when you observe today's political climate, when you hear the poppycock Hillary peddles without ant regard for the truth what so ever, when you watch our president diminish the integrity of the White House by dividing the country on a daily basis, when you read some of the pure idiocy expressed on this forum, I mean brain dead stuff sometimes, do you really think I need to respond in a respectful manner? especially here? seriously?
 

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Of course the older you get at this point in history the more conservative you become. Because any budget cuts or sacrifice in society is not being asked of them by either political party. Those 60's progressives can easily vote GOP now. 70% of GOP voters want no reforms to the fastest growing portion of the budget.

Medicare till the casket drops

Social security

bloated pensions at the state level that drive up in-state tuition costs and constrain budgets

bloated union benefits that stifle industry and government. In some states people pay 2-3x more to get their benefits now because they were so low in the past.

Greenspan interest rate manipulation running wild making home buying more difficult for average person and exacerbating income inequality.

So given how liberal much of the older GOP base is, I can see why someone would just shit all over that ideology and vote Dem. Might as well get your own free/subsidized shit.

At this point it is easy for the Dems to peddle this socialist utopian message to young people, since we already gave it to many of their parents.

Telling an entire generation of people that saving money was no longer important because the government has your back was a huge mistake and is setting the tone for much of what we see today.

they're entitled to medicare and social security, they paid into the system and their return is actually pitiful

union members do not vote Republican, their unsustainable pensions are things people like me want to cut (although I have to make sure people know how to maximize the benefits they're entitled to)

and they tend to want higher interest rates, they're not the people that tend to borrow money

you're all over the place my friend
 

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Why are they entitled to it? Is that in the constitution?

Your average person takes out like 3-4x more than they put into the medicare program. It is obviously an unsustainable program in many ways. Why both parties want to legalize 11-15M illegals, because that is 1 of the main ways to keep the system solvent.

Union may not vote R, but a lot of public/state employees who are older and retired do now. Look at the white vote of people 65+, there has got to be a lot of state/federal employees in there.

You can say the SS return is pitiful, but if in 1981 after 2 flat decades for the market, someone came along and said "We're going to replace SS with private accounts" this would've been flatly rejected and voted down. I believe Reagan did try to get some movement going on this, but it was just shot down by the public.
 

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I think it's rather simple, at some point many people realize our federal government is broken, federal solutions fail, many have seen and heard it all before, they're just tired of politicians

Kids are still idealistic, often times not very practical, then life and time does it's thing
 

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Why are they entitled to it? Is that in the constitution?

Your average person takes out like 3-4x more than they put into that program. It is obviously an unsustainable program in many ways. Why both parties want to legalize 11-15M illegals, because that is 1 of the main ways to keep the system solvent.

Union may not vote Dem, but a lot of public/state employees who are older and retired do now.

the return on social security is the worst return of just about any pension plan in the country, maybe the very worst

if all the money that went into social security went into private accounts, everyone retires a millionaire and owning an asset as opposed to living in poverty if that's all they have

teachers' and those union members you mentioned have returns 10,000x better
 

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The SS return is bad (and about to get A LOT worse) but you really think people in 1981 after 2 flat decades of market returns wanted privatization? Of course not. They wanted the government to pay for a portion of their retirement. Now that we got a huge bull run over '82 to '16, of course everyone is all about "Oh if we invested it, we would've done way better." After the 60's and 70's this tune was not being sung tho.

SS was just a terrible idea that needs reform but it has became a 3rd rail issue. Rubio/Cruz tried to talk about it, but when Trump is saying we're not touching it then there isn't much you can do.
 

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Telling an entire generation of people that saving money was no longer important because the government has your back was a huge mistake and is setting the tone for much of what we see today.

I don't think this has been true, since the 70's and the advent of IRA's and 401K's. The Gov't was telling you, we'll supplement your retirement, with SS, but you better have something else for the bulk of what you'll need. IRA, Pension, 401K, then The Roth IRA, The Coming or already in place MyIra. The Gov't has been begging people to save for their future, that the Gov't benefit isn't the primary source, just a fallback. If people aren't listening, and stilt depend on SS for the entirety of their retirement, that's not the Gov't fault.
 

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the return on social security is the worst return of just about any pension plan in the country, maybe the very worst

if all the money that went into social security went into private accounts, everyone retires a millionaire and owning an asset as opposed to living in poverty if that's all they have

teachers' and those union members you mentioned have returns 10,000x better

Many states can't even pay these pensions. Tons of them are underfunded. People paid in 5% pre-1980's in some places, now it is up to 10-12%. They would pay 0% of med costs while working, now people today have to pay 15-20%.

Also a big reason it is like 30k a year to go to a public school and the costs have gone up 4-5x higher than inflation.
 

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