The Da Vinci Code

[cussin'it]

Comparing Muslims to Christians is like comparing butterflies to killer bees.

There are Christians who get heated at any implied insult or criticism to their church. These Christians will write about and vocalize their anger - and it ends there.

The Muslims riot and blow people up and create all kinds of murder and mayhem at the mildest criticism.

Of course, this is another tactic the left uses, as though any comparison can raise up the Muslims from their barbarous ways, or lower the Christians from their civilzed manner.

Man you are on a muther'fin roll this morning....too much napalm with the coffee bigotblight.

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bblight
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[CAPNCRUNCH]

The book, 'The Da Vinci Code', was good, not great. Now, 'Angels and Demons', that is a great book!

 

[bigplay]

Comparing Muslims to Christians is like comparing butterflies to killer bees.

There are Christians who get heated at any implied insult or criticism to their church. These Christians will write about and vocalize their anger - and it ends there.

The Muslims riot and blow people up and create all kinds of murder and mayhem at the mildest criticism.

Of course, this is another tactic the left uses, as though any comparison can raise up the Muslims from their barbarous ways, or lower the Christians from their civilzed manner.

You are embarrassing REAL Christians. Please don't do this anymore.

Thank you, bp

 

[eek.]

Comparing Muslims to Christians is like comparing butterflies to killer bees.

There are Christians who get heated at any implied insult or criticism to their church. These Christians will write about and vocalize their anger - and it ends there.

The Muslims riot and blow people up and create all kinds of murder and mayhem at the mildest criticism.

Of course, this is another tactic the left uses, as though any comparison can raise up the Muslims from their barbarous ways, or lower the Christians from their civilzed manner.

BB is the Christian equivalent of Fidel Castro.

 

[quantumleap]

Of course, if Jesus was married and had kids, he couldn't therefore be divine.

Was this a premise stated in the novel or is this your idea? Jesus was both human and divine. If so, his humanity could have children, just like his humanity allowed him to eat food and digest it. He would have all the functions of a human including procreation.

 

[quantumleap]

it was commissioned and manipulated by the Roman emperor Constantine for political purposes, as the book asserts. "I was basically floored," Gracia said.

What I hope this book will do is have people learn more about the origins and beliefs of the Christian Church and how the books of the Bible were put together. I can't tell you how many people thump their Bible and pick apart verses all the while not knowing why a particular book was included or why another book was excluded.

Another aspect that I hope gets uncovered is why churches follow the certain doctrines they do. Take reincarnation for example (in regards to pre-existence of the soul before birth as written by a man named Origen). This belief was widely held by the early Christians and upheld as a valid belief by Pope Vigilius in the 500's. Not until Emperor Justinian outlawed this belief in 545 AD, against the protestations of the Pope, did the Church preach against this concept.

Another concept that I believe in, as do many Hindus, is that we are all from one source and we will return to that source. This concept was outlawed by Justinian as being heresy. Another concept, that of human divinity, is also outlined in the Bible and was outlawed by Justinian. If you do not believe in either of these perhaps you are following a Roman emperor instead of the Bible.

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http://reluctant-messenger.com/reincarnation-pope.htm

“If anyone asserts the fabulous preexistence of souls, and shall assert the monstrous restoration which follows from it: let him be anathema. (The Anathemas against Origen), attached to the decrees of the Fifth Ecumenical Council, A.D. 545, in Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, 2d ser., 14: 318).”

What does it mean when it says monstrous restoration? This passage is aimed straight at the teachings handed down from Yeshua (Jesus) the Christ to his disciples that mankind came from God and was destined to become one with God as he was one with God. When the Jews tried to stone him for calling himself the son of God, Jesus responded by reminding them that were all gods.

John 10:33 "We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God." 34 Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods'? 35 If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came--and the Scripture cannot be broken-- 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'? NIV

Later, just before Christ was crucified, he revealed in a prayer that he wanted his disciple to become one with God just as he was.

Jesus Prays for All Believers
John 17:20"My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one: 23 I in them and you in me. May they be brought to complete unity to let the world know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me. NIV

 

[koidog]

I thought the Da vinci Code was great. If Angels and Demons is better I'll have to read it.

Not my cup of tea as I prefer Non-Fiction and if I'm reading Fiction I tend to prefer the Classics. I only read it (like Blight) to see what the Fuss was about, but it was entertaining.

Not many dull moments and I kept wanting to see what would happen next.

 

[eek.]

The write ups weren't very good over here, I got the impression it might be a bit cerebral for a lot of folks.
Apparently it was quite faithful to the book.

Will watch it when it when I get the chance.

 

[kingbill]

I'm going to see it tonight I will give you my impressions later.
I am expecting to be disapointed, just because I have yet to see a movie that was as entertaining as the personal movie I create in my mind when I read a book.

 

[xpanda]

Second best opening weekend of all time, apparently. Best of 2006 so far.

Everyone I know who's seen it said it was so-so. Boring, was common. I can wait for the DVD.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060521/ap_on_en_mo/box_office

 

[kingbill]

I went to see it last night but it was sold out for a day and a half

 

[DeathEatsaCracker]

The first weekend box office will be solid, but look for a HUGE drop-off for week 2. I wouldn't be suprised to see a 65-70% drop.

I didn't read the book and I thought the movie was just okay. However, the premise is a fascinating one, and one I believe is closer to what actually happened than the Bible.

 

[chiefssth]

The first weekend box office will be solid, but look for a HUGE drop-off for week 2. I wouldn't be suprised to see a 65-70% drop.

I didn't read the book and I thought the movie was just okay. However, the premise is a fascinating one, and one I believe is closer to what actually happened than the Bible.

Why do you think it is closer to what really happened? Any reasons in particular?

 

[DeathEatsaCracker]

Why do you think it is closer to what really happened? Any reasons in particular?

You could learn a lot more about Christ by what's not in the Bible than by what made the cut.

Though there is no proof that the actual premise of The Da Vinci Code is real, many of the events depicted are the real deal. Unfortunately, whoever is in charge controls history, so we know only what the ancients were allowed to know. The knowledge of what actually took place died centuries ago.

I have a feeling that if Christians really immersed themselves into the history of Christianity and how the Bible was assembled(using non-Christian sources), they would have some very serious questions to ask themselves.

 

[bblight]

You could learn a lot more about Christ by what's not in the Bible than by what made the cut.

Though there is no proof that the actual premise of The Da Vinci Code is real, many of the events depicted are the real deal. Unfortunately, whoever is in charge controls history, so we know only what the ancients were allowed to know. The knowledge of what actually took place died centuries ago.

I have a feeling that if Christians really immersed themselves into the history of Christianity and how the Bible was assembled(using non-Christian sources), they would have some very serious questions to ask themselves.

Though there is no proof that the actual premise of The Da Vinci Code is real, many of the events depicted are the real deal. Unfortunately, whoever is in charge controls history, so we know only what the ancients were allowed to know

And this from a guy who disses ID.

Though there is no proof that the actual premise of ID is real, many of the events depicted are the real deal. Unfortunately, whoever is in charge controls the flow of knowledge, so we know only what the academic elitists allow us to know. The knowledge of what's really the truth has died somewhere in academia.

 

[919]

Wondering what the big deal was about, I went to my local used book store and bought a copy of the DaVinci Code./

As far as works of fiction go, it was an ok read, but it's barely entertaining and not as good as I was expecting - especially after all of the positive press.

The premise of the book is that Jesus was married and had kids, and that his ancestors are alive and kicking. Of course, if Jesus was married and had kids, he couldn't therefore be divine. And the Catholic Church would commit murder to hide such a secret.(I won't tell you more in case you want to read the book or watch the movie).

I assume the left loves the novel because it surmises that Jesus was just a man and not divine, and the Catholic Church was built on a false premise and is really an evil organization.

The book continually hypes the "sacred feminine" and disses the gnostics as selfish liars foisting a fraud on humanity.

All in all, the book gets a C+ or B- for entertainment value, and the left wing media gets a D- for hyping the book as fact rather than fiction.

I'll probably watch the movie when it makes it to tv.

I was raised Catholic, and enjoyed the book very much.

As for the dissing the gnostics, I think you are mistaken. The book actually takes the side of many "gnostics" who were rejected when the Catholic church was still in it's forming stages.

 

[919]

I have a feeling that if Christians really immersed themselves into the history of Christianity and how the Bible was assembled(using non-Christian sources), they would have some very serious questions to ask themselves.

Exactly.

 

[Ejercito]

Thats rather ignorant.

Perhaps the Catholics should put their anger over a FICTION movie to better use by stopping the pedofile priests.

Exactly! Great point.

 

[chiefssth]

You could learn a lot more about Christ by what's not in the Bible than by what made the cut.

Though there is no proof that the actual premise of The Da Vinci Code is real, many of the events depicted are the real deal. Unfortunately, whoever is in charge controls history, so we know only what the ancients were allowed to know. The knowledge of what actually took place died centuries ago.

I have a feeling that if Christians really immersed themselves into the history of Christianity and how the Bible was assembled(using non-Christian sources), they would have some very serious questions to ask themselves.

So the answer is no. You want to believe it so you can badmouth Christians apparently.

 

[JinnRikki]

Poor, poor put upon Christians, how do they manage, non-believers at every turn devil worshipers and flying spaghetti monsters to deal with. The many trials of the Christians.
It's been some years since the lions have fed, I would imagine they are quite ravenous by now.