Thank You, Mr. President: Nearly 19,000 civilians killed in Iraq in 21-month period

vitterd · Jan 20, 2016

superbeets said:
SOFA 2008 is a Red Herring. When Obama took office 2009, it was water under the bridge.

Negotiations between the U.S. and Iraq for a new SOFA began in fall 2010. (OBAMA).

Water under the bridge ? Uh, ok. It actually shows that all troops were coming out of Iraq and who was president after the agreement.....didn't matter.

superbeets · Jan 20, 2016

The assertion that President Obama’s hands were tied and he was forced to abide by the conditions of the SoFA on account of President Bush is baloney.

superbeets · Jan 20, 2016

It’s a bit of political excuse making on the part of Obama defenders to claim that SoFA made it impossible for President Obama to do anything other than to abide by the Agreement and withdraw troops from Iraq.

If the 2008 SoFA was binding and non-negotiable to being updated, then why did President Obama bother to try in the summer of 2011?

vitterd · Jan 20, 2016

superbeets said:
The assertion that President Obama’s hands were tied and he was forced to abide by the conditions of the SoFA on account of President Bush is baloney.

Obama would have removed troops anyway so it's not that his hands were tied......but to completely ignore the SOFA and Bush role in withdrawing the troops is baloney.

ScottL · Jan 21, 2016

Obama and Hillary's removal of Gaddafi - The wonderful outcome progresses:

West Ignoring Grave Islamic State Threat in Libya - Raphael Ahren (Times of Israel)
The West is neglecting the spread of the Islamic State terrorist group in Libya, said Reuven Erlich, a former senior military intelligence officer and currently the head of Israel's Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center.
Libya "is a country where IS rules over territory - the only place besides Iraq and Syria where it actually rules over parts of land - and therefore the U.S. and Europe would be well advised to pay more attention to this issue....Otherwise, the problem will soon find itself in their backyard."

ISIS in Libya: A Major Regional and International Threat (Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center)