JaMarcus Russell is a very bad comparison, as he was lazy and had no interest in putting in the work. Winston is nothing like that, he is one of the hardest working players on the FSU roster. Read up on this guy a little bit and you will see that other than being big, black and coached by Jimbo, they have nothing in common. Check out Dilfers interview about what he saw from Winston at the Elite 11 camp in high school, did a bed check at 1 am and saw a light on in back of dorm, found Winston up studying while the rest of the players were crashed out. Ending up winning top award at that camp. He has no future in PR for sure, but he works his ass off and has a very high football IQ. The one thing that may slow his development a bit over the next year is the fact that he is a hell of a baseball player, and that could bite into the work he gets in during the spring.
winston is an average QB who has talent around him. he will never be a successful pro QB. he is not even a good passer of the ball. this is what happens when people start over hyping potential heisman trophy winners instead of looking at their talent level. his whole success was based on the lack of competition played. talented receivers who took 5 yd passes and turned then into 60 yd gains ( like the last drive in the NC game ), and a jump ball pass i could have thrown. if he played anybody, you wouldn't know his name when auburn is the best defense you play all year. and you struggle against them, you aren't that good.
Jameis Winston is seriously, and I mean seriously..overrated. I maintain that Winston is not even the best college QB in the state of Florida (Bortles) let alone the country.
Let me ask you this: If you took Winston and put him on the UCF team and you took Bortles and put him on the FSU squad, which TEAM would benefit more?
Would FSU have skipped a beat or would they have still gone undefeated?
Would UCF have still finished 12-1 or would they have beaten South Carolina and finished 13-0....OR would they have lost a game or two that they otherwise won?
The UCF team doesn't have near the skill players FSU has..and yet with Bortles they almost ran the table.....Bortles mobility, decision making, and arm all make him a more attractive prospect than Winston...he's simply a better QB.
Winston can't move; he's cumbersome with his feet and his ball handling skills are marginal at best. His decision making skills will NOT get it done in the NFL...trust me on this one. His arm is good; very good..but it's no Brett Farve, John Elway, Dan Marino, or Jay Cutler...he will need a big arm to make up for his lack of mobility and intellect.
I believe Jameis can be a starter in the NFL..but he won't win big...he's another Josh Freeman and he can't extend plays like a Cam Newton/Ben Rothlisberger/Tom Brady (whether it be leaving the pocket or side stepping)...I just don't see those skills/instincts.
I realize Winston is only 20 years old and will certainly improve....but the bottom line is he played on a very talent rich team against weaker competition and without that pool of talent around him; he would have just been another "decent QB". When Jameis gets to the NFL...he will hardly "shine".
My strong opinion.
Let me ask you this: If you took Winston and put him on the UCF team and you took Bortles and put him on the FSU squad, which TEAM would benefit more?
Would FSU have skipped a beat or would they have still gone undefeated?
Would UCF have still finished 12-1 or would they have beaten South Carolina and finished 13-0....OR would they have lost a game or two that they otherwise won?
The UCF team doesn't have near the skill players FSU has..and yet with Bortles they almost ran the table.....Bortles mobility, decision making, and arm all make him a more attractive prospect than Winston...he's simply a better QB.
Winston can't move; he's cumbersome with his feet and his ball handling skills are marginal at best. His decision making skills will NOT get it done in the NFL...trust me on this one. His arm is good; very good..but it's no Brett Farve, John Elway, Dan Marino, or Jay Cutler...he will need a big arm to make up for his lack of mobility and intellect.
I believe Jameis can be a starter in the NFL..but he won't win big...he's another Josh Freeman and he can't extend plays like a Cam Newton/Ben Rothlisberger/Tom Brady (whether it be leaving the pocket or side stepping)...I just don't see those skills/instincts.
I realize Winston is only 20 years old and will certainly improve....but the bottom line is he played on a very talent rich team against weaker competition and without that pool of talent around him; he would have just been another "decent QB". When Jameis gets to the NFL...he will hardly "shine".
My strong opinion.
Jimbo has said on many occasions that Winston processes information faster than any QB he has coached, which includes Ponder who was a 4.0 student that finished his undergrad in 2.5 years and finished his masters before moving on to the NFL. He had one shaky half all season. Haters gonna hate.
"Stacks"; I do get your drift, but, years back, skirts made for "easier access" to the "promised land" lol.....too many women, now days wear pants/slacks i.e. men's clothing.
During the old-days when a guy wanted to get a quick "piece-of-ass" (many times in the front seat of a car or truck), it was a lot easier dealing with skirts than slacks. ha
The poster who started this thread is obviously an idiot. But that aside, it will be interesting to see what Winston does going forward. He basically didn't face a good defense this past season. And didn't have a particularly great game against Auburn going 20-35 for 237 yards. So the learning curve could be a little longer for him in the NFL where they actually challenge the QB on defense. Although I doubt seriously if it will happen, I think Winston would be better served by playing 2 more years through his junior season before declaring for the NFL draft. I think that extra year in college would serve him well down the road.
It's too bad more of these kids don't go the Andrew Luck route. A player who saw about 40 different defenses and defensive schemes by the time his college career was over. It made his transition to the NFL much easier. He was able to make an impact right away without having to carry around a clipboard for 2 or 3 years. Johnny Football is also leaving early. But at least he's seen two years of the best defenses a college player will face. Winston isn't learning a lot from a dozen 59-3 blowouts a season. I think it's going to make his NFL transistion much harder if he declares after his sophomore year. Even as talented as Cam Newton is, I saw him miss a lot of outlet receivers against SF that an otherwise more seasoned college QB would have hit. Winston needs more reps, and more competitive games like had had against Auburn. Ellis Johnson had a month to prepare for him with a very average at best SEC defense. Just think what these NFL coordinators will throw at him. And with much more talent. It's no coincidence that all of these QB's in the playoffs were seasoned college QB's who completed their 4 year college careers like Peyton Manning, Brady, Brees, Kappernick, Russell Wilson played for two different Division 1 college programs. These guys were well prepared and had seen many different defenses thrown at them by the time they came to the NFL. Most started almost right away, and were successful almost from the start. I don't see nearly as much of that happening with these 2 year college QB's.
