Tenn vs UCLA INGAME

[hackerhog]

Hey dipshit, I posted all weekend why I was on UCLA and made fun of all the people who said this was a no contest. That's right, every time I read another post about how Tennessee would win 38-7 I felt wrong because when a game is supposedly so obvious and everyone is saying the same thing, it typically loses.

Like I said, the ONLY reason I went after you and the other morons that were on Tennessee is because of the blatant disregard and disrespect that was shown to ANYONE who was on UCLA or thought they even had a remote chance of covering. I read post after post about what a lock this was and that anyone that was on UCLA was a "retard" and "needed their head examined". I am rubbing it in your fucking face because of the absolute stupidity and arrogance that all the stiffs that were on Tennessee showed all freaking week. Keep whining about your "bad beats, bad coaching, bad officials, bad bounces, bad this, bad that". Maybe if you could handicap a freaking game and think outside the box you wouldn't be whining all the time about your losses. I am not the only one on here loving it and rubbing it in the face of the Tennessee bettors. All of the people on UCLA were attacked for the last four days and called such idiots for even thinking UCLA had a chance to cover much less win. Well, as usual, the same stiffs that run their mouth all week and then lose their bet miserably are left eating crow and losing money.

If I lose over and over, then how am I still betting? I went 4-1 in the Colorado game, ended up 10-2 on the day, up ALOT. I killed the Rutgers/Fresno game, only lost on 2H o/u points, had Fresno ML huge. On Saturday, my record was something like 20-16, yet, I was up over 1,600$ on college football betting HALFS. I hit a parlay on baseball Friday(5team) for over 600$, yet...I lose everytime? LOL.

To say that everyone was on Tennessee and you were more and more confident about your bet then is pretty retarded. I love it when people come in after the fact to chime in. I really don't care about the game anymore. It's not the first time I've lost, and it won't be the last. The fact of the matter is, don't come on here and spit shit out of your mouth without knowing what you're talking about.

Watch the game again, if you think coaching had nothing to do with the outcome, then you're just retarded. But, that's already been proven.

FADEEEE ME ALL THE TIME, IDK...I'LL BE GLAD TO TAKE YOUR $$$$

 

[hackerhog]

You made 36 bets Saturday? LOL. Yeah, I'm sure your winner. You're a gambler not a handicapper. There's a huge difference. Nobody that makes 36 bets in a day is winning long-term. Parlays? LOL. Keep selling those lies. I have seen you make post after post on another board about your bad luck and bad beats. I wouldn't have said a word about you or to you if you and the rest of the stiffs hadn't acted like such idiots toward anyone that liked UCLA in this game. You got what you deserved.

If I lose over and over, then how am I still betting? I went 4-1 in the Colorado game, ended up 10-2 on the day, up ALOT. I killed the Rutgers/Fresno game, only lost on 2H o/u points, had Fresno ML huge. On Saturday, my record was something like 20-16, yet, I was up over 1,600$ on college football betting HALFS. I hit a parlay on baseball Friday(5team) for over 600$, yet...I lose everytime? LOL.

To say that everyone was on Tennessee and you were more and more confident about your bet then is pretty retarded. I love it when people come in after the fact to chime in. I really don't care about the game anymore. It's not the first time I've lost, and it won't be the last. The fact of the matter is, don't come on here and spit shit out of your mouth without knowing what you're talking about.

Watch the game again, if you think coaching had nothing to do with the outcome, then you're just retarded. But, that's already been proven.

FADEEEE ME ALL THE TIME, IDK...I'LL BE GLAD TO TAKE YOUR $$$$

 

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

You made 36 bets Saturday? LOL. Yeah, I'm sure your winner. You're a gambler not a handicapper. There's a huge difference. Nobody that makes 36 bets in a day is winning long-term. Parlays? LOL. Keep selling those lies. I have seen you make post after post on another board about your bad luck and bad beats. I wouldn't have said a word about you or to you if you and the rest of the stiffs hadn't acted like such idiots toward anyone that liked UCLA in this game. You got what you deserved.

The parlays that I make in HALF plays are only 2-teamers. I've done it for YEARS in NBA games, and it's successful. I make HALF plays, it's pretty obvious. The parlay in baseball was a 5-teamer.

I have no problem with my loss. I've moved on from it. You can rub whatever you want in, if that's what floats your boat. You're just wasting your time with me. It's pretty obvious that you're beating a dead horse on that bet. There's only a handful of people complaining about the game still.

I never said I'm a capper, and have never claimed to be. I am a gambler, and I win. I make half plays, 90% of the time on O/U.

36 bets....2 half plays per game, ocassionally 3. Not very many games when you break it down. Also, considering there were about 100 games on Saturday.

The other site you are referring too I'm well respected, and I am very respected as an NBA better. I guess if you haven't been around on forums you don't know what you're talking about? LOL...what a joke

I can screen shot all my wins in those 36 games, the 10-2 day,etc...I don't care if you believe me. The fact of the matter is, it's true...


FADE ME BRO, IDK, I'LL TAKE YOUR $$$

 

[hackerhog]

You and all the other stiffs are the reason I am still talking about. You made your bed now you're laying in it. You and the stiffs said all week this was a no contest. No way UCLA will cover or even come close to winning. Anyone who's on UCLA doesn't know football, is retarded, etc. Who looks stupid and retarded now? Losers like you. End of story.

The parlays that I make in HALF plays are only 2-teamers. I've done it for YEARS in NBA games, and it's successful. I make HALF plays, it's pretty obvious.

I have no problem with my loss. I've moved on from it. You can rub whatever you want in, if that's what floats your boat. You're just wasting your time with me. It's pretty obvious that you're beating a dead horse on that bet. There's only a handful of people complaining about the game still.

I never said I'm a capper, and have never claimed to be. I am a gambler, and I win. I make half plays, 90% of the time on O/U.

36 bets....2 half plays per game, ocassionally 3. Not very many games when you break it down. Also, considering there were about 100 games on Saturday.

The other site you are referring too I'm well respected, and I am very respected as an NBA better. I guess if you haven't been around on forums you don't know what you're talking about? LOL...what a joke

TAIL ME BRO, IDK, I'LL TAKE YOUR $$$

 

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

I don't mind laying it in. Like I said, I've moved on. Maybe you should too? It's one game. Did you bet your 100$ bankroll on it? Someone's gotta eat crow when they lose.

When you lose, I'll come drill you...Oh wait, no, I'm a bigger man. I don't have to rub losses in to get my jollies off.

FADE ME BRO, ILL TAKE YOUR $$$

 

[hackerhog]

I don't need to fade you or take your losers. I win on my own bets. No, I don't win all my bets and like I said this has nothing to do with a bet winning or losing it has to do with the disrespect that you and the other stiffs showed all week to the people that were on UCLA. Yes, I will keep posting it to prove what a fucking stiff and loser you are. I handicap to win money and do win money. You handicap for entertainment and lose money, there's nothing wrong with that but that's what you do. This is all about how you idiots acted for a week leading up to this game. YOU ARE A FUCKING LOSER. Go back to the other board and whine about how you can't win a bet and you're always getting screwed. I think they enjoy your whining over there more.


Show a little respect to those who have a differing opinion on a game than you and maybe you won't be treated like the bitch that you are.

I don't mind laying it in. Like I said, I've moved on. Maybe you should too? It's one game. Did you bet your 100$ bankroll on it? Someone's gotta eat crow when they lose.

When you lose, I'll come drill you...Oh wait, no, I'm a bigger man. I don't have to rub losses in to get my jollies off.

FADE ME BRO, ILL TAKE YOUR $$$

 

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

Swearing is a proven fact to be the little man who needs to swear to make himself feel superior. So keep that up!!

Disrespect?

POT...
...meet KETTLE...

FADE ME BRO, ILL TAKE YOUR $$

GG...I'M DONE WITH YOUUUUUUU

 

[hackerhog]

No thanks, I don't want to make 40 plays a day. No way anybody wins long term playing 36 games a day. Juice will kill you. I saw your big parlay and 50 baseball plays tonight. Juice is a killer isn't it? You're a bookies dream.

Again, if you had showed respect to anyone that had UCLA then I wouldn't have said a word. You're a loser. End of story.

Swearing is a proven fact to be the little man who needs to swear to make himself feel superior. So keep that up!!

Disrespect?

POT...
...meet KETTLE...

FADE ME BRO, ILL TAKE YOUR $$

GG...I'M DONE WITH YOUUUUUUU

 

[itsallabouttheloot]

just to reiterate--the public, the touts, and the sharps were all on tenn tonight... literally everyone i saw was all over tenn tonight. you had to know there was something wrong

on top of all this, i'm a big fan of the "obvious" plays, aka georgia hawaii, etc.... and on top of that, i'm a huge sec homer and sec favorite bettor.... but you had to know something was off tonight. you just had to know.

and they came through and won the game outright

So if EVERYONE was on UT -- why was the only line movement from 7 to 7.5 which occurred midway thru last week not on game day. I'll admit it I was on UT (even bought line down to 7 last Friday night). If Touts were on UT they would be releasing their play on Monday. Public would be mostly be playing the game on Sunday and Monday. We saw no line move on game day according to scoresandodds.com.

Lessons that I learned. Got sucked into a favored team on a cross country trip which I should know better... Be wary of the backup punter starting. Still though I've won a lot of bets going against third string QB's, teams battered by injuries like UCLA was going into game etc. in my life and I'd make the play again tomorrow if the situation comes up. Just one of those games that went bad. Happens to everyone who does this for very long.

However, I certainly wasn't here bragging that UT was a lock or anything silly like that.

 

[SaltyVeteran]

Still though I've won a lot of bets going against third string QB's, teams battered by injuries like UCLA was going into game etc. in my life and I'd make the play again tomorrow if the situation comes up.

I'm not sure I'd hold onto thinking like this. For the most part, players and teams step up huge if they are without their star player. These teams all the sudden are given no chance much like UCLA was and play with a severe chip on their shoulder. Teams/players tend to step up huge in situations where they are shoved aside because one of their best players is out.

In basketball, backing a team like this is damn near gold in the first game after the injury or what have you, occurs.

I'm not even saying this was the case with UCLA, because it really wasn't. But just for future reference I wouldn't shove teams aside so quickly because of an injury.

 

[hackerhog]

Certain lines move due to the public and some don't. If the books like the side that is not being bet they often leave that line alone. In fact, with heavy betting on Tennessee, the line actually moved down, which means that the public money was on Tenn but the "sharp" money was on UCLA. This happens all the time. If the books had thought Tennessee was going to cover then likely they would have moved the line up but apparently they weren't worrying about attracting Tennessee money and they ended up correct.

So if EVERYONE was on UT -- why was the only line movement from 7 to 7.5 which occurred midway thru last week not on game day. I'll admit it I was on UT (even bought line down to 7 last Friday night). If Touts were on UT they would be releasing their play on Monday. Public would be mostly be playing the game on Sunday and Monday. We saw no line move on game day according to scoresandodds.com.

Lessons that I learned. Got sucked into a favored team on a cross country trip which I should know better... Be wary of the backup punter starting. Still though I've won a lot of bets going against third string QB's, teams battered by injuries like UCLA was going into game etc. in my life and I'd make the play again tomorrow if the situation comes up. Just one of those games that went bad. Happens to everyone who does this for very long.

However, I certainly wasn't here bragging that UT was a lock or anything silly like that.

 

[hackerhog]

People, keep reading this man's posts. He is dead on. I have seen so many times when people hammer the other side after a player gets injured. But salty is right, in most cases the team steps up in that game to compensate for their injured player(s). How many times have you seen after a game when someone was out and they interview the players and they talk about how they all stepped up to make up for the absence of the missing player. Do you people not think the oddsmakers know who is or isn't playing? They have already adjusted the line to make up for the missing player. That's already been built into the line. Never think for a second you know more than the oddsmaker because you don't. The key to winning at sports handicapping is thinking outside the box and not going with what is obvious. Everyone knows what is "obvious" but the problem is that perception is often not reality. People's minds and judgement are clouted by so many factors. Rankings, talking heads on TV (did anyone hear Mark May and Lou Holtz basically say UCLA had no chance), etc. Listen to analysts, they are generally wrong. How many times does Lee Corso pick a big game correctly (and he's just picking the straight up winner without a point spread factored in)? And, I'm not talking about games with 2 td spreads. The books have made a living by mis-perception in the marketplace.

Two things I always think about when betting on sports:

1) Nothing is ever as it seems.
2) Perception is NOT reality.

Still though I've won a lot of bets going against third string QB's, teams battered by injuries like UCLA was going into game etc. in my life and I'd make the play again tomorrow if the situation comes up.

I'm not sure I'd hold onto thinking like this. For the most part, players and teams step up huge if they are without their star player. These teams all the sudden are given no chance much like UCLA was and play with a severe chip on their shoulder. Teams/players tend to step up huge in situations where they are shoved aside because one of their best players is out.

In basketball, backing a team like this is damn near gold in the first game after the injury or what have you, occurs.

I'm not even saying this was the case with UCLA, because it really wasn't. But just for future reference I wouldn't shove teams aside so quickly because of an injury.

 

[itsallabouttheloot]

Not just one injury to a star player. One problem was that I thought the guys I list below were important. The real stars of UCLA are Harwell and Verner. Those two guys played like they want to get drafted this April.

Anyway, there were multiple starters that were on the injured list:

G Kia ques ended up leaving game early
RB Bell ques ended up leaving game early
QB Cowan / Olson out
S Lockett suspended
MLB Carter probable

you know if the betting line had adjusted to the injuries like they sometimes do and went to say 9 or certainly 10 - I'm sure I would have passed. That's really what sucked me in.

I haven't seriously bet a basketball game in a few years (a few very small plays in the NCAA once in a while is it for me.. And I never play the NBA) so I'll take your word on that.

 

[SaltyVeteran]

Not just one injury to a star player. One problem was that I thought the guys I list below were important. The real stars of UCLA are Harwell and Verner. Those two guys played like they want to get drafted this April.

Anyway, there were multiple starters that were on the injured list:

G Kia ques ended up leaving game early
RB Bell ques ended up leaving game early
QB Cowan / Olson out
S Lockett suspended
MLB Carter probable

you know if the betting line had adjusted to the injuries like they sometimes do and went to say 9 or certainly 10 - I'm sure I would have passed. That's really what sucked me in.

I haven't seriously bet a basketball game in a few years (a few very small plays in the NCAA once in a while is it for me.. And I never play the NBA) so I'll take your word on that.

I failed to mention what this also does for the other team. Again, I don't feel this was the case last night but I'm gonna use it as an example anyway. Imagine being on Tennessee and you know that all those players are out and you're facing UCLA's 3rd string QB, are you going to take them as serious as you would if they were fully healthy? Probably not. If a team knows going in that the other team is hobbled or missing one of their studs it's human nature to subconconciously think you're going in with a huge edge.

Anyways, Good Luck next week allabouttheloot

 

[itsallabouttheloot]

People, keep reading this man's posts. He is dead on. I have seen so many times when people hammer the other side after a player gets injured. But salty is right, in most cases the team steps up in that game to compensate for their injured player(s). How many times have you seen after a game when someone was out and they interview the players and they talk about how they all stepped up to make up for the absence of the missing player. Do you people not think the oddsmakers know who is or isn't playing? They have already adjusted the line to make up for the missing player. That's already been built into the line. Never think for a second you know more than the oddsmaker because you don't. The key to winning at sports handicapping is thinking outside the box and not going with what is obvious. Everyone knows what is "obvious" but the problem is that perception is often not reality. People's minds and judgement are clouted by so many factors. Rankings, talking heads on TV (did anyone hear Mark May and Lou Holtz basically say UCLA had no chance), etc. Listen to analysts, they are generally wrong. How many times does Lee Corso pick a big game correctly (and he's just picking the straight up winner without a point spread factored in)? And, I'm not talking about games with 2 td spreads. The books have made a living by mis-perception in the marketplace.

Two things I always think about when betting on sports:

1) Nothing is ever as it seems.
2) Perception is NOT reality.

I think in football -- oddsmakers really only adjust to skill position injuries. Cause they know that's what the public looks at. eg. If Bob Sanders misses a game for the Colts - the line isn't likely to be impacted. But the game is gonna be helluva lot different if you ask me. I don't think there's much respect for the other positions.

 

[hackerhog]

Oddsmakers know what to do. They adjust for everything. It's all built into the line. They know who's out long before you do.

 

[itsallabouttheloot]

I failed to mention what this also does for the other team. Again, I don't feel this was the case last night but I'm gonna use it as an example anyway. Imagine being on Tennessee and you know that all those players are out and you're facing UCLA's 3rd string QB, are you going to take them as serious as you would if they were fully healthy? Probably not. If a team knows going in that the other team is hobbled or missing one of their studs it's human nature to subconconciously think you're going in with a huge edge.

Anyways, Good Luck next week allabouttheloot

That's a really good point. I hadn't thought of it that way. Maybe that explains Foster's fumbling. That kid's pretty cocky from what I've heard.

Good discussion. And it didn't degenerate into the same old conference bashing nonsense. Best of luck next weekend - Salty Veteran.....