***** Super Bowl 50---Carolina vs Denver *****

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Not being a dick but if you want to help your capping skills, you need to leave out BS theories the NFL wants. Last week you did the same thing and people tried to help you look at it from another angle but you refused. Cap the games based on stats and DEFENSE! Carolina SOS is 27 vs 13 hence the blowout games Carolina played. When I mentioned that there WILL be reverse movement on that game, you posted stats showing following reverse movement will cost you. Good luck but might want to rethink your bet on Carolina IMO

You must be one of the guys who bet Sea or Ari based on Caro weak SOS. I said it before and will repeat, sos in nfl is over rated unlike college.
Can't go 15-1 on weak schedule in pro.
 

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You must be one of the guys who bet Sea or Ari based on Caro weak SOS. I said it before and will repeat, sos in nfl is over rated unlike college.
Can't go 15-1 on weak schedule in pro.
It's only a portion of data to look at. Just like TO ratio. Carolina +21, Den -4. If I'm not mistaken, 42/47 SBs have won because of the higher TO ratio. This was done in 2012/2013. Besaically you could add 43/49?
 

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I remember that wax job.......Manning losing 8-40 is unheard of......& he hasn't forgotten it. Denver's defense is really good, but I've seen several better defenses before in the SB.....the Ravens in 2000.......Bears 1985........just to name a few, & IMO, Denver'sdefense doesn't stack up with those.
 

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I agree with most of what you say TCG but I feel Denver dee is very good an could be just enuff with manning to keep it say 3-4 pts in a thriller - again experience and cams inexperience In his biggest game yet an this game is not at home. could be the difference.
 

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Don't overthink this game. Just look at 2 years ago. Love to hear your thinking in the next 2 weeks

I agree. I think this game is going to come down to which QB can deal with the pass rush better. My money is going to have to be on the quicker more agile Cam Newton who also seems to be passing pretty good right now. Not underestimating Manning, just a hunch. He doesn't perform well against lines that can apply a lot of pressure.
 

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Denver likes to throw WR bubble screens. That can slow down the pass rush a bit. Also they will run some 2 TE sets which will slow down he rush ends. Key word is slow down not stop them.
 

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I'm not comparing Kapernick to Cam but Baltimore slowed down SF in the SB a few years back by blitzing them. Baltimore's defense was a shell of themselves that season but they were still effective. Denver's corners can play 1 on 1 against the weak Panthers receivers and get in Cam's face.
 

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I remember that wax job.......Manning losing 8-40 is unheard of......& he hasn't forgotten it. Denver's defense is really good, but I've seen several better defenses before in the SB.....the Ravens in 2000.......Bears 1985........just to name a few, & IMO, Denver'sdefense doesn't stack up with those.

It doesn't even stack up favorably to their own '89 #1 defense that the Niners hung 55 on in the SB.
 

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In Stoneback’s 30 years behind the counter on the Vegas scene, he can’t recall having such a lopsided decision this early into Super Bowl betting. MGM opened Carolina -4 and took instant action from the sharps who pushed the line to -5, which was bet hard by the public and tacked on a half-point hook
not only that many other sportsbook are seeing a deluge of Carolina bets an even the wiseguys who are on Denver are few an in between so far. some are at already 6- could we see 7 most doubt it dreaded middle.
 

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“I can’t see us getting much higher than -6, but we still have 10 more days before this game kicks so you never know,” admits Childs. “If there happens to be any kind of weather on Super Bowl Sunday, this thing could get to -7 because Manning can’t throw the ball if there’s any kind of wind or a heavy rain. So we’re definitely keep our eyes on the 10-day forecast.”
 

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In Stoneback’s 30 years behind the counter on the Vegas scene, he can’t recall having such a lopsided decision this early into Super Bowl betting. MGM opened Carolina -4 and took instant action from the sharps who pushed the line to -5, which was bet hard by the public and tacked on a half-point hook
not only that many other sportsbook are seeing a deluge of Carolina bets an even the wiseguys who are on Denver are few an in between so far. some are at already 6- could we see 7 most doubt it dreaded middle.



Yeah, I'm.not gonna bet this game until a few days before SB Sunday........

Im thinking this game ends with a Carolina win of 27-24........I like the Over in this game as well.

If Carolina wins but doesn't cover, Vegas & books everywhere will clean house. Alot people betting Denver is taking them on the ML......& Carolina bettors are taking the -5.

Public percentages are showing Carolina & Over........IMO, its gonna come in Carolina & Under, or Denver & Over.

I'm starting to lean Denver +5.........but I could easily change my mind with 10 days remaining.
 

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$$ rollin on the favs big time. 6 at some spots. daymnnn!!!!!
 

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Ask any coworker or anybody who doesn't watch football who they are on and they will tell you Carolina. Denver is the play regardless of line. Look at Hache's article he posted on early lines books came out with and tell me again who the sharps are on again?
 

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$$ rollin on the favs big time. 6 at some spots. daymnnn!!!!!




I wonder if it reaches +7......that number would be insane!

Denver is 7-1 ATS after winning SU as a dog......but Manning catching +7 is nuts......are the books trying to balance the books?

Every dog I've won with in the SB, the line came down........Pats in 2001 vs Rams......2007 Giants vs Pats.......2011 Giants vs Pats......2012 Ravens vs 49ers........all these dogs had the line move, smart money per se.......

The line is now moving up, which scares me.....but I can't wrap my mind around Manning not covering in his possibly last SB, if not game.
 

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Looking back at past few SB's, the winning margin was by 3 or 4 in most games.

2014 Pats vs Seattle .......2012 Ravens vs 49ers......2011 Giants vs Pats.......2010 Gbay vs Pitt was by 5 I think.......2008 Pitt vs Cards........2007 Giants vs Pats........only blowout was Seattle over Denver in 2013........& every SB the Pats were in during the Brady era have been very close wins by either side.

Can't say the same for Manning's SB's.......he won won by 13 I think vs the Bears......& then got blown out by Saints & Seattle........

Damn this years SB is very tough........it is the 50th anniversary for the NFL......do the refs keep this game close? Do we see a blowout? I'm gonna keep an eye on how ESPN & the media spins this years 50th anniversary.
 

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Adding my first SB play:



2 team 7 point teaser:


Carolina +1........Over 38.......(Large)



I just can't see how Denver will beat Carolina.......now covering the spread is a different game all together, that's why I took the teaser.......Carolina has been getting no respect all year, & they received no respect in the playoffs with this -2 & -3 point spreads.

Now -6 may be a bit inflated, but its justified for Carolina.......don't be fooled by the public percentages on different sites, this SB will be split down the middle with bets IMO......lots of Manning live everywhere I look. ESPN & the media will hype up Manning......Carolina isn't the Falcons of 1998 playing Elway & the Broncos.

This Carolina team is insanely good, & IMO, they will win SU......as for the spread, your guess is as good as mine.

I'm not going crazy in this SB......I think live in game will provide very nice opportunities to make money.
 

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I wonder if it reaches +7......that number would be insane!

Denver is 7-1 ATS after winning SU as a dog......but Manning catching +7 is nuts......are the books trying to balance the books?

Every dog I've won with in the SB, the line came down........Pats in 2001 vs Rams......2007 Giants vs Pats.......2011 Giants vs Pats......2012 Ravens vs 49ers........all these dogs had the line move, smart money per se.......

The line is now moving up, which scares me.....but I can't wrap my mind around Manning not covering in his possibly last SB, if not game.

from speaking to a few guys in town that run books they said sharp money can in early at-3.5 on Carolina and of course public money continues to come in
 

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from speaking to a few guys in town that run books they said sharp money can in early at-3.5 on Carolina and of course public money continues to come in



The spread in this game is tough......if Manning gets blown out once again, that would makeit 3 SB's hhe's gotten waxed in.....& it shouldn't be a surprise.

The oddsmakers aren't stupid, they know Manning is a shell of himself.......only reason they're in the SB is because of their defense. This spread should be climbing, but I can't vet either side on the spread as of now........will wait a few days before kickoff to see if I can find anything on a side.

I do think Carolina wins this SB SU........
 

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I keep seeing people say everyone's on Carolina, but everywhere I look, people are all over Denver......been to 3 forums & I see nothing hut Denver.

Tons of Denver futures, I've yet to read about a Carolina future.......almost every thread I've opened has Denver..........I could care less, because I took Carolina in a teaser, just don't see Carolina losing......& Denver may cover, but with this line movement this early, it tell me books are scared that Carolina will blow them out, so they're trying to balance the books.......& no, its not the public moving this line this early

And books don't move lines this early unless professional bettors laying huge money are doing it.......
 

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