Staten Island Man KILLED after NYPD Cop Puts Him In CHOKEHOLD For Breaking Up a FIGHT!!

[JakeT.]

you have no idea what killed this gentlemen, as you're not a forensic pathologist. The autopsy is forthcoming.

the impact of the asphyxiation? likely significant. Cardiovascularly compromised given his size, an obese gentleman. Perhaps even suffers from COPD? He GAVE the cops a warning; 'I cant breathe'. He said it more than once. Dumb Dumb cop ignored it.

Coroners have said the neck/throat were not damaged. If anything helped the guy die it likely was the knee in the back once he was on the ground, but that's pretty standard procedure.

 

[JakeT.]

which is basically the same as...

“If an obese person with co-existing medical problems can’t get good oxygenation to begin with, then a wrestling match while resisting arrest could put him over the edge,”

So-Sorry-935&

Uh, the guy wasn't in a wrestling match.

He was wrestling with cops... call it what you will.

 

[JakeT.]

I just think your jumping to conclusions. And I stand by my opinion that in all likely hood the guy would be fine walking around today without the cops choking him.

And he did lose consciousness. He died. That is the only FACT we know right now.

BTW....I wasn't trying to come off as a smart ass with my original post to you. It was a little harsh. I just think your assuming that a large man who is out of shape died of a heart attack when all initial signs point to the aggressive actions of a few police officers.

Also, Why would anyone resist arrest? If your innocent then explain that to the cops downtown, or the judge if need be, just like everyone has to. But to fight a cop is the stupidest thing you could do. It will NEVER end well. Now some will say this guy was being harassed. Why is that? You think they went out of their way to pick on this one guy time after time? Ofcourse he is probably well known to them for priors, but doesn't give them the right to do what they did when choke holds have been banned for quite some time!

No worries. It's the internet. Everyone's an asshole (me included).

I'll stay out of this thread until the autopsy comes back since we're all just making assumptions at this point. Will be interesting to see what transpires.

 

[Acebb]

[h=1]Pregnant woman apparently put in chokehold by NYPD cop over illegal grilling dispute[/h]http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/pregnant-woman-apparently-put-chokehold-article-1.1882755

Lots of tough, brave cops there in New York City

 

[JamesD]

Anyone saying the cops should be charged with murder, especially without the autopsy report is way way off base. Cops don't have an easy job and MOST are decent people. However that video is pretty hard to watch, you have a 400 lb dude in a skin tight Tshirt and shirts, it is CLEAR he has no weapons and is no threat to the 6-8 cops standing there. This did not have to escalate so quickly into a takedown. If as a cop a situation like this can be so threatening to you that you need to jump on this guys neck then you need to get a new job.

One other point, as far as the cigarette selling. They do need to arrest people for that. You can buy smokes on an Indian reservation for like four dollars and in the city they cost over 10. If they didn't actively enforce this law and arrest guys for circumventing the city tax laws half the city would be doing it. Just because this guy normally does that and they know him gives them no right to tackle him like he's Pablo Escobar. Pretty horrible how these events played out.

 

[EveryGamblersDream]

For all the ridiculous cop defenders, the medical examiner has released the results & as suspected, the choke hold was the cause of death!

The autopsy found that Garner, 43, died as a result of compression of neck, compression of chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police.

The New York Medical Examiner has ruled Eric Garner died from a chokehold used by a police officer during his arrest for selling untaxed, loose cigarettes last month, calling it a homicide.

http://7online.com/news/police-chokehold-killed-eric-garner-medical-examiner-rules/233642/

 

[ZJP6050]

hard to believe that some people were under the impression that it was impossible for the COD/chokehold to be related. no sense in explaining human anatomy/physiology on a sports forum.

 

[Acebb]

The hold didn't kill the guy and wasn't that tight. The cop should be suspended for going against policy but it had nothing to do with the guy's death. He didn't die from lack of oxygen/blood to the brain.

Yeah dude, you were pretty damn wrong about all of this. Common sense:

Eric Garner, 43, died of a “compression of neck (chokehold), compression of chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police,” the office said in announcing the autopsy results.

But the 350-pound Garner’s poor health, including “acute and chronic bronchial asthma; obesity; hypertensive cardiovascular disease,” were also “contributing conditions” to his death, it added.

Garner, a married African-American father of six, was suspected of selling “loosies” by cops, who surrounded him on Bay Street on Staten Island on July 17.
Their takedown of the man was captured on cellphone videos.

Officer Daniel Pantaleo, who is white, held Garner in a chokehold — which is banned by the NYPD — as the suspect struggled and repeatedly yelled, “I can’t breathe!”
Pantaleo, who is on modified duty, has not been charged with a crime. It will be up to Staten Island District Attorney Daniel Donovan Jr. to decide whether to convene a grand jury.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/nypd-chokehold-death-homicide-medical-examiner-rules/story?id=24811834

 

[Acebb]

Common sense is exactly what I used.


If you can find one single reference in the history of mankind of someone dying after 5-10 seconds in a chokehold I'd love to see it. I'm sure it contributed to the stress level that caused the heart attack but so did RESISTING ARREST. The guy was struggling with cops... he was going to be exerting energy one way or another.

hno:

 

[StevieRay]

Fried chicken and over weight had nothing to do with it

 

[JakeT.]

The choke hold was one of many possible reasons listed even though there was no damage to the neck/throat. Basically they think it contributed in the same way that struggling with the cops contributed. I'm 100% confident that someone in decent health wouldn't have any issue in that situation. Kind of surprised they ruled it a homicide, but I guess they have to since an illegal technique was used. If they had tackled him normally it wouldn't be homicide if he died right? It's homicide because the technique wasn't allowed?

 

[EveryGamblersDream]

You're my boy JT but on this one you are way off. The man died because of the chokehold based on an actual expert. What else do you want?

 

[gtc08]

NYPD is the most corrupt PD in the country. narc detectives on tape admitting that they plant drugs to make quotas just hope one day they dont come for you

http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2011/oct/14/exnypd_narc_testifies_cops_routi