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For the second straight spring practice, the Huskies will be without their starting quarterback. Last year's starter Cyler Miles will miss spring drills for personal reasons. Miles started 11 games last season passing for 2397 yards and 17 touchdowns with only 4 interceptions. Don't know his problem but he was suspended for the first game of the season during 2014.

Men, times are a changing. I just can't imagine a player walking up to Bear Bryant or Woody Hayes asking to miss spring ball because of personal reasons. Coaches back then would have an assistant packing his suitcase within an hour.
 

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Harbaugh never won a Pac 12 championship with Stanford. Do not be suprised to see the same results with Michigan.
 

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For the second straight spring practice, the Huskies will be without their starting quarterback. Last year's starter Cyler Miles will miss spring drills for personal reasons. Miles started 11 games last season passing for 2397 yards and 17 touchdowns with only 4 interceptions. Don't know his problem but he was suspended for the first game of the season during 2014.

Men, times are a changing. I just can't imagine a player walking up to Bear Bryant or Woody Hayes asking to miss spring ball because of personal reasons. Coaches back then would have an assistant packing his suitcase within an hour.

Well, "personal reasons" could mean "positive marijuana test" or something similar.
 

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The Crimson Tide began spring practice yesterday (Friday) with a two hour workout in shorts and helmets in the indoor practice facility. Eight mid-year enrollees took part in the workout including 5 star QB Blake Barnett, 4 star RB DeSherrius Flowers, 4 star DB Ronnie Harrison, 4 star OL Brandon Kennedy, 5 star RB Bo Scarbrough, 4 star DB Deionte Thompson, 4 star OL Dallas Warmack and Juco DT Johnson Taylor. Alabama also welcomed two new coaches to the staff with outside linebackers coach Tosh Lupoi and secondary coach Mel Tucker. The team will take next week off for spring break and will return on Monday, March 23 with its second of 15 practices. Schools have 34 days to get in their 15 practices.
 

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CL, I'm not sure why all the love Auburn is getting (not just from you). From a "returning starters" standpoint they are in about as bad a shape as any team....yet I keep seeing them in most preseason top-10's. They return 12 starters (8 on defense....so saying Muschamp will "turn it around" is easy to do w/ 8 returning starters).

http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/sec-teams-returning-starters-2015/

From a returning starters stand point I'd be on the lookout for Arkansas, LSU, Tennessee, and Ole Miss. UGA has some work to do and so does Missouri. The East is truly a tossup.

Returning starters are important to some degree (IF) the players returning are any good. A team that recruits really well may not depend on last year's starters as much as teams that don't recruit well.

Alabama won national championships in 2009 with just 13 returning starters (4 off, 9 def), again in 2011 with 15 (7 off, 9 def) and again in 2012 with just 11 (6 off, 5 def). Most of the really good teams that recruit well year after year and play those players in reserve roles seem to do OK.

Auburn has 12 starters returning (4 offense and 8 defense) and I believe the 2015 team will be much better than last year. Auburn's defensive schemes where terrible last season...that will change this year.
 

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SEC "Returning Starters" for 2015 according to the SEC Network.

Team..Total...Off...Def
GA (12), 7, 5
SC (12) 4, 8
MO (13) 7, 6
FL (10) 4, 6
TN (18) 10, 8
AU (12) 4, 8
AL (12) 4, 8
KY (14) 7, 7
AK (15) 9, 6
VU (18) 9, 9
OM (16) 9, 7
MS (9) 5, 4
AM (15) 8, 7
LSU (15) 9, 6
 

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Interesting to note that South Carolina, Florid, Alabama and Auburn onlyhave 4 starters returning on offense. Now we will see which OC is the best. Miss. State returns only 9 starters. That is going to hurt this season. Tennessee returns 18, and will have to be reconed with in the East. Arkansas, Ole Miss, and LSU all return 9 on offense, but Ole Miss loses QB Bo Wallace, who will not be easily replaced. It looks like the Alabama schools will have to depend on their defenses until their offenses mature.
 

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USC HC Steve Sarkisian is on a very warm seat this season. Last year's club went 9-4, with three of the 4 losses by a total of 10 points. The biggest problem for the team was that they simply ran out of gas in the 4th quarter. A lot of that was attributed to the fact that USC was still under NCAA scholarship probation and was limited in their physical practices because they could not afford any injuries. They simply did not have the man power to replace the starting 22.

This season is different. USC has it's entire complement of scholarships available. Sark wants practices to be more intense, and a lot more paysical. Sark is hoping that his team will be in better shape and be able to go 4 quarters, instead of the 3 quarters that they displayed last season. Last season USC was outscored 90-68 in the 4th quarter, a stat that is totally unacceptable to the alum. While 9 wins is certainly nothing to laugh at, many feel that a fully stocked USC would have ended up with 12 wins. Only the UCLA game was out of reach for them by the 4th quarter. Many are saying that anything short of a win against UCLA and a Pac 10 South Championship will be unacceptable this season.

USC was exciting to watch when Lane Kiffin was Caroll's OC. Some of my most favorite seasons were spent watching USC as the highlight of the weekend in those days. It's too bad that the NCAA's infractions committee was on a mission to bring down the Trojans and a timely exit for their HC. Kiffin eventually moved on and Sarkisian took his job.

I think that Sarkisian's "yes man" style of coaching under PC left an impression with me that resulted in a stain on his name as a coach. Those were the days when USC seemed to come up a dollar short year after year but certain powers with control over CFB in the East were never-the-less concerned about what seemed to be USC's annual presence in a very top heavy conference (USC and the 9 dwarfs.) With Sark in control of Carroll's offense, the Trojans offense seemed to lack the explosiveness and game control that afforded them the type of dominance they enjoyed in previous seasons under OC Kiffin. They did remain strong during the "OC Sarkisian era" however there would be a slip up at least once a year allowing Mike Riley and Carroll's #1 nemesis Jim Harbaugh to play the role of spoiler far too often. In a weak conference like he Pac-10 there was no room for error to make it to the big dance. I could see the difference in the Trojan's game, be it ever so slight. I had been closely watching them play for some years prior to Sarkisian's turn at OC and believe me, something went awry when he came on board. It was like eating a steak with a somewhat dull steak knife. TheTrojans were still cuttin' it but nothing close to as spectacular as before. Kiffin was an impressive OC under Carroll -- very impressive and his exploits apparently didn't go unnoticed by Nick Saban. Sarkisian was milk toast.

After an abysmal, winless 2008, Sark was hired to rescue UW from the doldrums of hell. I will admit that he inherited a mess from Ty Willingham his predecessor following an 0-12 year. Though knee-deep in talent, he did manage to bring UW up a notch or 2. Sarkisian's teams were 27-23 over the 5 years he coached the Huskies with one 8-4 season, his best and last (2013.) In his final season at UW, the talent-rich huskies won 5 games in conference beating Oregon St., WSU, California, Arizona (in Seattle) and Colorado with the Wildcats being the only team with a winning record. Impressive? NOT! Sark had 5 years to put UW back on its feet. Perhaps his worst failure was getting mowed down by Oregon in 5 straight games. (Considered a high crime in Seattle.)

In 2014, the Trojans lost 4 games to Boston College (7-6), ASU (10-3), Utah (9-4) and UCLA (10-3), all of their losses vs. teams with winning records. However, they had no business dropping a game to BC with HC Steve Addazio in only his second year. Hardly the road warriors they were distinguished to be under Pete Carroll.

There were many that claimed USC was thin on the bench with a season's worth of injuries finally catching up to them (like many) towards the end of the season. They were considered to be running out of gas losing to teams in the 4th quarter. However with some research, it wasn't difficult to find that in their 4 losses, they actually outscored BC and UCLA in the 4th quarter and they tied with Utah. Now I am not suggesting that the Trojans didn't feel the pinch of being short-handed, especially in 4th quarters, but I believe that excuse has been overstated. Their 4th quarter scores were heavily weighted with opponents outscoring them 99-79 in 4Q. However the only game they actually lost in the 4th quarter was when ASU outscored them 20-14 in the last quarter of that game. A few of their 4th quarters featured garbage scoring when they had already beaten their hapless victims (Arizona who managed to come close and Colorado.) USC did win their share of 4th quarters.

Now don't get me wrong, Steve Sarkisian is a nice guy, maybe even the nicest guy among all of the HC's in the Pac-12 conference (now that Mike Riley has made his exit) but I also think he's a bit of a space case. His entire CFB career is peppered with lapses as both a HC and as an OC.
 

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The earliest spring game in Colorado history will take place today at Folsom Field at 2 p.m.. The team is expected to practice about 50 percent of the time and conduct a game type scrimmage the other 50 percent. The Buffs began spring ball last month looking to evaluate defensive personnel and decide which schemes fit the talent best with new defensive coordinator Jim Leavitte. Colorado opens with four teams (Hawaii, UMass, Colorado St., Nicholls St.) to get things in order before entering the tough Pac 12 schedule.
 

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USC was exciting to watch when Lane Kiffin was Caroll's OC. Some of my most favorite seasons were spent watching USC as the highlight of the weekend in those days. It's too bad that the NCAA's infractions committee was on a mission to bring down the Trojans and a timely exit for their HC. Kiffin eventually moved on and Sarkisian took his job.

I think that Sarkisian's "yes man" style of coaching under PC left an impression with me that resulted in a stain on his name as a coach. Those were the days when USC seemed to come up a dollar short year after year but certain powers with control over CFB in the East were never-the-less concerned about what seemed to be USC's annual presence in a very top heavy conference (USC and the 9 dwarfs.) With Sark in control of Carroll's offense, the Trojans offense seemed to lack the explosiveness and game control that afforded them the type of dominance they enjoyed in previous seasons under OC Kiffin. They did remain strong during the "OC Sarkisian era" however there would be a slip up at least once a year allowing Mike Riley and Carroll's #1 nemesis Jim Harbaugh to play the role of spoiler far too often. In a weak conference like he Pac-10 there was no room for error to make it to the big dance. I could see the difference in the Trojan's game, be it ever so slight. I had been closely watching them play for some years prior to Sarkisian's turn at OC and believe me, something went awry when he came on board. It was like eating a steak with a somewhat dull steak knife. TheTrojans were still cuttin' it but nothing close to as spectacular as before. Kiffin was an impressive OC under Carroll -- very impressive and his exploits apparently didn't go unnoticed by Nick Saban. Sarkisian was milk toast.

After an abysmal, winless 2008, Sark was hired to rescue UW from the doldrums of hell. I will admit that he inherited a mess from Ty Willingham his predecessor following an 0-12 year. Though knee-deep in talent, he did manage to bring UW up a notch or 2. Sarkisian's teams were 27-23 over the 5 years he coached the Huskies with one 8-4 season, his best and last (2013.) In his final season at UW, the talent-rich huskies won 5 games in conference beating Oregon St., WSU, California, Arizona (in Seattle) and Colorado with the Wildcats being the only team with a winning record. Impressive? NOT! Sark had 5 years to put UW back on its feet. Perhaps his worst failure was getting mowed down by Oregon in 5 straight games. (Considered a high crime in Seattle.)

In 2014, the Trojans lost 4 games to Boston College (7-6), ASU (10-3), Utah (9-4) and UCLA (10-3), all of their losses vs. teams with winning records. However, they had no business dropping a game to BC with HC Steve Addazio in only his second year. Hardly the road warriors they were distinguished to be under Pete Carroll.

There were many that claimed USC was thin on the bench with a season's worth of injuries finally catching up to them (like many) towards the end of the season. They were considered to be running out of gas losing to teams in the 4th quarter. However with some research, it wasn't difficult to find that in their 4 losses, they actually outscored BC and UCLA in the 4th quarter and they tied with Utah. Now I am not suggesting that the Trojans didn't feel the pinch of being short-handed, especially in 4th quarters, but I believe that excuse has been overstated. Their 4th quarter scores were heavily weighted with opponents outscoring them 99-79 in 4Q. However the only game they actually lost in the 4th quarter was when ASU outscored them 20-14 in the last quarter of that game. A few of their 4th quarters featured garbage scoring when they had already beaten their hapless victims (Arizona who managed to come close and Colorado.) USC did win their share of 4th quarters.

Now don't get me wrong, Steve Sarkisian is a nice guy, maybe even the nicest guy among all of the HC's in the Pac-12 conference (now that Mike Riley has made his exit) but I also think he's a bit of a space case. His entire CFB career is peppered with lapses as both a HC and as an OC.
I agree with most of this assessment. In two years, USC will have by far, the best talent in the Pac 12. This season Sark is expected to win the Pac 12 South. Next season, even with the loss of Cody Kessler, they will be expected to win the Pac 12 title and participate in the Playoffs. Now who is making these expectations. Not the press. USC could care less about what the press thinks. Not the average football fan, like Conan and RedEye. No offense gents, but USC cold care less about what you guys think. The people who make these expectations are people like myself, the ALUM. The ALUM is very powerful at USC. USC Alum are just as powerful, if not more powerful, as any other College Alum in the nation. The alum expects nothing short of a Pac 12 South title this season and a Pac 12 title next season. If Sark cannot produce, then he is gone. How about this for a shocker. If Lane Kiffin stays at Alabama and learns anything about being a head coach from Saban, he may replace Sark and come back to USC. We will have to see just how mature Kiffin becomes. He is very young. Sark has two years to produce. He had one of the three best recruiting classes of 2015. There are no more excuses for him.
 

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Rutgers Head Coach Kyle Flood announced that Junior LB L.J. Liston has been dismissed from the team. No reason was given, but last season Liston was suspended for one game for the usual "team rule violation".
 

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ATTENTION MODERATORS.......something good is happening here on the CFB site.

Bigdaddy and Conan are agreeing on something. (NOT A MISPRINT)

Both guys are important to the RX CFB forum....different views to say the least...but always a good read for the forum.

Why RX CFB is the best on the net!
 

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Well enjoy it while you can, Barry is getting up there in years and not going to be around forever. The next spoonful of Metamucil may be his last at that age
 

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Mr. C....5 big posts.....not proud of yourself or what? Barry lover???

Go somewhere else partner....don't think you would be happy here.

My thread and you are not welcomed....
 

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Nobody loves that senior citizen blowhard, you are prob right, just tell him to post pics of his granddaughters and I will be on my way
 

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I agree with most of this assessment. In two years, USC will have by far, the best talent in the Pac 12. This season Sark is expected to win the Pac 12 South. Next season, even with the loss of Cody Kessler, they will be expected to win the Pac 12 title and participate in the Playoffs. Now who is making these expectations. Not the press. USC could care less about what the press thinks. Not the average football fan, like Conan and RedEye. No offense gents, but USC cold care less about what you guys think. The people who make these expectations are people like myself, the ALUM. The ALUM is very powerful at USC. USC Alum are just as powerful, if not more powerful, as any other College Alum in the nation. The alum expects nothing short of a Pac 12 South title this season and a Pac 12 title next season. If Sark cannot produce, then he is gone. How about this for a shocker. If Lane Kiffin stays at Alabama and learns anything about being a head coach from Saban, he may replace Sark and come back to USC. We will have to see just how mature Kiffin becomes. He is very young. Sark has two years to produce. He had one of the three best recruiting classes of 2015. There are no more excuses for him.
Betcha I'm right about Sarkisian.

USC is one of my strongest plays over the last 5 years.
I have lost just once playing and fading them both.
I think moving to Oregon and getting behind the Ducks
has made me more objective.
 

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But I will never get over how they were set up and then fucked by the NCAA infractions committee.

A quote from the attached link...

"The NCAA has investigated allegations against the Trojans athletic department since 2006, one of the longest probes in the association's history."

Q: Why do you suppose they took so long?
A: Because there was nothing of a serious nature there. To remedy this, they made a coach, Todd McNair their pansy. He sued them to save his career.
The court ruled that the NCAA acted out of malice. I am 100% serious and 100% right in saying that the NCAA was on a mission to take down the Trojans.
It was proven in a court of law.

Pat Haden and some alums have me questioning them for not pursuing legal action vs the NCAA.
It's a slam dunk if they want it.

Beyond the law....
http://www.si.com/more-sports/2010/02/18/usc-coi
 

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I may as well wrap all of the NCAA's trash up with this...
It's pretty accurate --

On June 10, 2010, the NCAA levied penalties on the University of Southern California football team that were among the harshest since Southern Methodist University was given the "death penalty" in 1987. A two-year postseason ban. A reduction of ten total scholarships (plus ten initial scholarships) per year for three years (30 total scholarships and 30 initial scholarships). A one-year show cause order banning assistant coach Todd McNair from recruiting (effectively a ban from coaching given the importance of recruiting to top programs).

Additional fines, penalties, and four years of probation.
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[Click here for a refresher on the basics of the Reggie Bush case]

So what, then, about this case could lead ES​PN's Ted Miller to conclude:

Yes, the NCAA railroaded McNair and USC. That's been the position of just about every neutral observer who is knowledgeable about the case. Some folks in the comment section below will argue differently. And what they will do is type things that are ignorant, irrelevant or untrue.​
And what could lead the judge presiding over McNair's defamation lawsuit against the NCAA to make this preliminary finding:

McNair has met this standard of showing malice [by the NCAA.] In addition to the evidence cited by Plaintiff showing reckless disregard for the truth, Plaintiff proffers [internal NCAA emails] that tend to show ill will or hatred.


McNair Allegations

The McNair Allegations section focuses on the findings made by the NCAA against former USC assistant coach Todd McNair, who the NCAA says learned at some point that wannabe sports marketer Lloyd Lake had provided impermissible benefits to Bush in an effort to secure Bush as a client when the star runningback turned pro.

The NCAA ultimately charged McNair with unethical conduct for allegedly providing false or misleading testimony about a phone call, but the interview transcript reveals that the NCAA never actually asked McNair about the phone call in question because the NCAA investigator questioning McNair kept misidentifying the call as occurring in January 2005 instead of January 2006. But rather than go back and re-interview McNair, the NCAA simply went ahead and charged McNair with lying about his knowledge of the January 2006 call.


The NCAA also ignored glaring flaws and contradictions in the story of its star witness, Lake. Lake told the NCAA he was first introduced to McNair in March 2005 in a San Diego hotel room he had booked for Bush, but he told his then-girlfriend that he first met McNair months later in October 2005. Cell phone records also refute Lake's story, placing McNair in the Los Angeles area at the time of the supposed San Diego hotel room meeting. Lake's girlfriend and sister also contradict his story of talking to McNair at Marshall Faulk's birthday bash.

McNair ultimately sued the NCAA. The pending lawsuit has revealed a number of internal NCAA emails that a judge found shows "ill will or hatred" towards McNair.

USC Penalties

The USC Penalties section addresses the irreconcilable disparity between the severity of sanctions imposed against USC and those imposed in other cases involving far greater violations, and the NCAA's efforts to immunize that disconnect from appellate review by disavowing the use of case precedent to prove abuse of discretion.

One such case precedent is the 1995 Miami case, which involved ten years of infractions that included perhaps the largest centralized Pell Grant fraud ever, a pay-for-performance pool long before the Saints' Bountygate, and more than $600,000 in impermissible benefits and excessive aid to more than a hundred athletes. Despite this, Miami received a shorter postseason ban, a lesser scholarship penalty, and, unlike USC, did not pay a fine or vacate any wins.

On appeal, USC pointed to the Miami case along with several others to show that the penalties levied against USC far exceed the penalties handed out for much more serious violations. Conveniently, a month before denying USC's appeal, the NCAA published a task force report instructing that prior case precedent was not binding and that appellate review was "limited." This position drew criticism from, among others,

Sports Illustrated's Andy Staples:

No two robberies are the same. No two Ponzi schemes are the same. No two DUI cases are the same. Yet every day, judges in real courts weigh precedents and try to find the most similar cases so they don't issue a sentence out of step with the sentences handed to those who committed similar crimes. Is it too much to ask that the NCAA give its member institutions the same kind of justice?

Procedural Faults

The Procedural Faults section covers several prejudicial and unfair (and arguably illegal) missteps by the NCAA during the course of the investigation and beyond. The investigation was procedurally unfair to USC and McNair because the NCAA enforcement staff excluded USC from the interviews of key witnesses, including Lloyd Lake and his family. USC was thus unable to question Lake and other witnesses about the inconsistencies that appeared even from their answers to friendly questioning by the NCAA. Of course, the NCAA assured Congress that the accused have the right to question witnesses. The NCAA's actions in this regard may have violated California law, which requires even private associations to provide fair process to its members.

Things didn't get any better when USC appeared at the Committee on Infractions ("COI") hearing. NCAA bylaw 32.1.3 is supposed to protect schools from facing COI members who may be prejudiced or biased. It directs:

"Any member of the Committee on Infractions or the Infractions Appeals Committee shall neither appear at the hearing or oral argument nor participate on the committee when the member . . . has a personal, professional or institutional affiliation that reasonably would result in the appearance of prejudice."

Despite this rule, one of the eight COI members who sat in judgment of USC was an administrator at USC's chief rival. COI member Missy Conboy played basketball at Notre Dame and has worked in Notre Dame's athletics administration for more than 25 years, including a brief stint as interim athletic director in 2008. When Conboy sat for the hearing, USC had beaten Notre Dame eight straight years. Since the sanctions, Notre Dame won two of three in the series.


Potential sanctions against USC weighed heavily on recruit Seantrel Henderson, the nation's number one overall recruit. The 6'8", 338lb left tackle chose USC over Miami in February 2010, but admitted that his choice might change if USC were heavily sanctioned. After the sanctions came down four months later, Henderson decommitted and went to play for Miami. The chair of the COI, Paul Dee, was Miami's athletic director for 15 years (he was AD at the time of the 1995 Miami case mentioned above).


The NCAA also admitted that the COI failed to read all of the written documents submitted by USC and McNair. Even after the hearing, the NCAA COI had impermissible ex parte communications with the enforcement staff outside the presence of USC and McNair. Finally, two of the NCAA enforcement staff members central to the USC investigation also featured prominently in the NCAA report on wrongdoings in the Miami investigation.
 

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