South Carolina Officer Is Charged With Murder in Black Man’s Death

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I see your point but like I said I would be willing to bet this isn't the first time a cop has shot an unarmed person in the back. They were already going through the process of covering it up lol. "Feared for my life" pulling that old trick out the hat. Regardless of if the autopsy report would do justice without the video doesn't matter. The cops tried to cover up killing an innocent man instead of investigating the matter themselves. Tampering with the crime scene. They think they can just do whatever they want. Above the law
 

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I see your point but like I said I would be willing to bet this isn't the first time a cop has shot an unarmed person in the back. They were already going through the process of covering it up lol. "Feared for my life" pulling that old trick out the hat. Regardless of if the autopsy report would do justice without the video doesn't matter. The cops tried to cover up killing an innocent man instead of investigating the matter themselves. Tampering with the crime scene. They think they can just do whatever they want. Above the law

Yeah, totally agree. Some crooked cops out there in society but when you say "they" were in the process of covering this up...there's no evidence of that. The cop Slager was in the process of covering it up. The second responding cop is black.

Some think they're above the law not all. That's my point.
 

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I don't disagree with this at all, but in this case I think Enfuegos larger point is that you can't paint all Cops with such a broad stroke.

Some of these posters would have you believe that out of the millions of Police Officers in the US, 80% of them (or more) are in some way corrupt or evil.

You can't paint all ANYTHING, Blacks, Muslims, Cops, Jews, Christains, Republicans, Dems, conservatives, Liberals, etc. with a broad stroke, but folks keep doing it, and that's why we never get anywhere.
 

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You can't paint all ANYTHING, Blacks, Muslims, Cops, Jews, Christains, Republicans, Dems, conservatives, Liberals, etc. with a broad stroke, but folks keep doing it, and that's why we never get anywhere.

I can agree with this even though you dems do piss me off all the time.
 

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You can't paint all ANYTHING with a broad stroke, but folks keep doing it, and that's why we never get anywhere.

Thanks for the tip got some painting to do on the weekends I'll check back and look for tips on flooring after I'm done painting
 

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You can't paint all ANYTHING, Blacks, Muslims, Cops, Jews, Christains, Republicans, Dems, conservatives, Liberals, etc. with a broad stroke, but folks keep doing it, and that's why we never get anywhere.
I was just referring to this thread.
 

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Most people are good. Some are not. Color and uniform and religion and situation don't define a person; their individual actions do. If you don't let someone's actions define who they are before judging them then you might be one of the bad ones.

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Okay, dash cam video is out. There is still some video missing between the car and when the officer caught up with the victim.

Can both of these people be wrong? First, watch the dash cam video. Dude is making up some story about not having registration or insurance for the car and then when the cop takes his ID and goes back to the police car the victim tries to get out of his car. The cop tells him to get back. Then the victim bolts out of the car. At that point I am sure the cop thinks either the car is stolen or the guy is a fugitive. Watch the dashboard cam. Why the hell would anyone run from a car like that after being pulled over if the car was not stolen or you were not wanted?

Then the story comes out that the victim has an arrest warrant for $18,000 in child support and his brother says he told him he will not go back to jail and will run from the cops. I think it is 100% true to say that the victim would be alive today if he did not decide to run from the police because he was wanted! Is it too much to ask people to take self responsibility anymore and they might be responsible for their own actions?

Yes, murder should not be the sentence for unpaid child support but I can pretty much guarantee the victim would be alive today if he paid his child support or did not run! I don't think you should get a life sentence for a DUI either but if you drink and drive and hit a family of four and kill them then yes, you should go to jail for life! People need to be responsible for their actions in life and the victim here is partially responsible for his own death. Don't have kids, pay your child support or don't run from the police and he would be walking on planet earth today. It is sad that most people do not think this way. Actions have consequences.

Again, in, not justifying what the cop did. From the second video it is a bad shoot and the cop was charged with murder. He should have never shot the victim while he was running away and again, he was charged and will most likely spend the rest of his life behind bars. But why is it not PC to say that both people were wrong in this case?
 

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Okay, dash cam video is out. There is still some video missing between the car and when the officer caught up with the victim.

Can both of these people be wrong? First, watch the dash cam video. Dude is making up some story about not having registration or insurance for the car and then when the cop takes his ID and goes back to the police car the victim tries to get out of his car. The cop tells him to get back. Then the victim bolts out of the car. At that point I am sure the cop thinks either the car is stolen or the guy is a fugitive. Watch the dashboard cam. Why the hell would anyone run from a car like that after being pulled over if the car was not stolen or you were not wanted?

Then the story comes out that the victim has an arrest warrant for $18,000 in child support and his brother says he told him he will not go back to jail and will run from the cops. I think it is 100% true to say that the victim would be alive today if he did not decide to run from the police because he was wanted! Is it too much to ask people to take self responsibility anymore and they might be responsible for their own actions?

Yes, murder should not be the sentence for unpaid child support but I can pretty much guarantee the victim would be alive today if he paid his child support or did not run! I don't think you should get a life sentence for a DUI either but if you drink and drive and hit a family of four and kill them then yes, you should go to jail for life! People need to be responsible for their actions in life and the victim here is partially responsible for his own death. Don't have kids, pay your child support or don't run from the police and he would be walking on planet earth today. It is sad that most people do not think this way. Actions have consequences.

Again, in, not justifying what the cop did. From the second video it is a bad shoot and the cop was charged with murder. He should have never shot the victim while he was running away and again, he was charged and will most likely spend the rest of his life behind bars. But why is it not PC to say that both people were wrong in this case?



It should have been, and honestly, is one of the things I totally believe people should be in jail for...Bottom line is, follow the laws, respect the officer, and nothing will happen. With that said, this is still a solid case of murder. That cop would've shot me too, and based on the video, I can run 5x faster than Mr. Scott...
 

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Would this case have been harder to prove without the video? Sure. Would the cop have gotten off? I say "no" but who knows? The autopsy would've shown the cop was guilty of excessive force.

How many officer-related shootings have gone to trial?

How many officer-related shootings have resulted in a conviction?

Who is the jury going to believe --- an officer, or a black man with multiple convictions? Better yet, a *dead* black man with multiple convictions?

Naive to think this was going to result in any conviction. Slager was already trying to spin the story, and falsify the report.
 

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Okay, dash cam video is out. There is still some video missing between the car and when the officer caught up with the victim.

Then the story comes out that the victim has an arrest warrant for $18,000 in child support and his brother says he told him he will not go back to jail and will run from the cops. I think it is 100% true to say that the victim would be alive today if he did not decide to run from the police because he was wanted! Is it too much to ask people to take self responsibility anymore and they might be responsible for their own actions?

That's one of the stories within the story --- South Carolina has some of the toughest child-support laws in the nation. Without those laws, maybe Scott doesn't run?

People will tell you that America eliminated Debtors' prisons decades ago, but that's not entirely true (especially if you're a man).

Not defending deadbeats at all --- but going to jail for child-support, doesn't that discriminate against men? Where is the outcry, stop the War on Men!
 

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That's one of the stories within the story --- South Carolina has some of the toughest child-support laws in the nation. Without those laws, maybe Scott doesn't run?

People will tell you that America eliminated Debtors' prisons decades ago, but that's not entirely true (especially if you're a man).

Not defending deadbeats at all --- but going to jail for child-support, doesn't that discriminate against men? Where is the outcry, stop the War on Men!

That way of thinking, if South Carolina had more lenient child support laws Mr. Scott doesn't run and would be alive today, takes the responsibility off of Mr. Scott. Last time I checked, South Carolina does not have a Berlin Wall around it preventing people from leaving. I am assuming they also sell condoms at CVS also. Mr. Scott chose to have children in the State of South Carolina. Mr. Scott should be responsible for those children.

I also would not equate not paying child support with a debtor's prison. They are not throwing people in jail for not paying credit card bills or mortgages because if you do not pay your bills only the stockholders are harmed. However, not paying child support hurts your own children. Not to mention, unfortunately, for every man willing to step up there are just as many that want nothing do to with their own children. Jail may be the only thing that motivates their ass to get a job. Why should my tax dollars pay for a child when there is a perfectly healthy father out there avoiding child support payments?

Not disagreeing with you on the unfairness of custody battles and the overwhelming majority of men being on the short end of the stick, especially for men who want to step up and have custody. It is not fair and the laws are more harsh in the South (S. Carolina, Georgia and Florida for sure) but again, men also have a choice in what state they live.
 

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Hundreds mourn black South Carolina man shot in back by police

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    SUMMERVILLE, S.C. (Reuters) - Hundreds of mourners, including prominent South Carolina politicians, attended the funeral on Saturday of Walter Scott, an African-American father of four who was shot in the back while running from a white patrolman.
    The body of the slain Coast Guard veteran, whose death was filmed by a bystander, was carried in a flag-draped casket past a crowd assembled outside the W.O.R.D. Ministries Christian Center in Summerville, north of North Charleston, where the shooting took place on April 4.
    Scott's death reignited a public outcry over police treatment of African Americans that flared last year after the killings of unarmed black men in Ferguson, Missouri, New York City and elsewhere.
    "This is a sad day," said Rev. James Johnson, who is president of the local chapter of civil rights leader Rev. Al Sharpton's National Action Network.
    "God has got a reason for what has happened," he told Reuters before the service. "Hopefully this will heal the world."
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    Michael Slager, the North Charleston officer who fired eight times at Scott's back as he fled from a traffic stop, has been charged with murder and dismissed from the police force.
    Scott's family, who were escorted to the funeral by law enforcement officers, had changed their mind on allowing media to attend after a newspaper reported that the family wanted Sharpton to stay away, Johnson said.
    Sharpton was always welcome, though the family had not scheduled him as a speaker, he said.
    Sharpton said he had a scheduling conflict on Saturday, the last day of his organization's convention in New York, but would attend a vigil in North Charleston on Sunday and meet with Scott's family.
    "People are close to the point of saying 'what is it going to take to see real change?'," Sharpton said. "This validates the need for a federal oversight of policing."
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    NORTH CHARLESTON, SC - APRIL 10: People attend a vigil in front of the North Charleston City Hall f …

    Scott, 50, was driving a black Mercedes-Benz when he was pulled over by Slager, 33, for a broken tail light. Video from the dashboard camera in Slager's police cruiser recorded a respectful exchange between the two men before the officer returned to his patrol car.
    A few minutes later, after being told by Slager to stay in the Mercedes, Scott emerged from his car and ran off. He was apparently unarmed.
    A cell phone video taken by a bystander showed the men in a brief tussle before Scott ran off again, Slager fired his gun and Scott slumped into the grass. There was a gap between the two videos, however, as the officer was not wearing a body camera.
    Rep. James Clyburn, a U.S. congressman who among the 500 people at the funeral, said he wanted national strategies and standards for law enforcement to be considered.
    "Body cameras are a good start. They're certainly not a panacea," said Clyburn, who was joined at the funeral by U.S. Senator Tim Scott and Rep. Mark Sanford.
    Scott had a history of arrests for failing to pay child support and was forced out of the U.S. Coast Guard in 1986 after more than two years of service because of a drug offense.
    He was nonetheless discharged under honorable conditions because he had a good record of service, the Coast Guard said.
    (Writing by Colleen Jenkins and Frank McGurty; Editing by Susan Fenton and Grant McCool)
 

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