Some things I need to address

[CaptainLee]

Let shdw01 or anybody else here make a market for the 34k owed to contest winners. We can either accept, decline, ignore or counter offer.

I am willing to accept 90% and ill pay the money order fees and double postage because I would like it to be sent registered mail, so there isn't any worries about it being lost during transit.

 

[Defying]

If he's not doing it to make up to 9k and he is doing it to assuage the fears of other posters, then he wouldn't be offering 75%.

He thinks it is +EV to buy the debt at 75% and he is going to make some good coin. Thus he is trying to profit off of the uncertainty created from someone having a heart attack.

Why should they be quick to jump on the offer? No one said they didn't expect to get paid, they said they wanted to know what is going on. If you had read the thread, you would know that.

Yes its +EV.

Why dont you offer 10% then. Also plus +EV. He’s offering to assume a 35k risk. That’s generous.

i think the unfair part of it is saying he’s making money off someone having a heart attack. The opportunity is here bc of a serious of unfortunate events. There are people bitching like they aren’t getting paid. He offered a solution that I believe is fair... you don’t think it’s faor so I guess the opportunity is there for you to make a better offer.

but those that are unsure may not know BAS.. may not know this forum and would jump at the offer of getting there money tomorrow.

 

[JimmyHoffa]

Plus your monthly pension from the Tribe-controlled World Bank kick in

Just celebrated 22 yrs with the SheBar so I am now a bit over 30% intergrated. Just another 13 years until I'm vested

Anyone that can endure 22 years with a Princess without committing a violent act deserves full vesting Bar.

I will forward a recommendation to the board...

 

[PatsFan1283]

Yes its +EV.

Why dont you offer 10% then. Also plus +EV. He’s offering to assume a 35k risk. That’s generous.

i think the unfair part of it is saying he’s making money off someone having a heart attack. The opportunity is here bc of a serious of unfortunate events. There are people bitching like they aren’t getting paid. He offered a solution that I believe is fair... you don’t think it’s faor so I guess the opportunity is there for you to make a better offer.

but those that are unsure may not know BAS.. may not know this forum and would jump at the offer of getting there money tomorrow.

Yeah, he's trying to make money off uncertainty. That's what gamblers do.

He's not doing it for virtuous reasons or trying to "calm fears"

Exactly......And why should I offer 10%? I have no opinion as to the creditworthiness of this situation. But if you thought the person was definitely good for it and you were just trying to do someone a favor, you would offer a lot more than 75%. Obviously. Unless you're just trying to profit. Which he is....Glad we agree.


And people didn't really "bitch they aren't getting paid" if you read the thread, they just wanted clarity beyond "be patient" since it has been 7 weeks.

 

[mountain]

He's making a +EV bet that he'll shell out 75 cents and get a dollar back shortly thereafter.

If you think he is offering 75 cents out of the kindness of his heart then GL to you.

I think it is a fair offer, there is a great deal of uncertainty involved. Most everyone agrees that when BAS returns, people will be paid. Other than what Hache has told us, we know very little about his condition. Could it be months? Could it be possible he never comes back? Probably not but because of the uncertainty and lack of communication, I think 25% is a very fair offer and this is based purely on this being a business transaction....which it is.

 

[PatsFan1283]

I think it is a fair offer, there is a great deal of uncertainty involved. Most everyone agrees that when BAS returns, people will be paid. Other than what Hache has told us, we know very little about his condition. Could it be months? Could it be possible he never comes back? Probably not but because of the uncertainty and lack of communication, I think 25% is a very fair offer and this is based purely on this being a business transaction....which it is.

No one said it isn't a fair offer. But don't make up some virtuous reason why you are offering it, to "calm fears" or whatever. A major health scare happened thus creating a lot of uncertainty and now you're swooping in to profit.

If people wanna negotiate debt buyouts then GL to them.

 

[Michelangelo]

I think it is a fair offer, there is a great deal of uncertainty involved. Most everyone agrees that when BAS returns, people will be paid. Other than what Hache has told us, we know very little about his condition. Could it be months? Could it be possible he never comes back? Probably not but because of the uncertainty and lack of communication, I think 25% is a very fair offer and this is based purely on this being a business transaction....which it is.

Agree. 75% is the right number for these circumstances.

No one has to accept those terms. They can wait for things to come to their eventual conclusion. But if I were taking the risk I would expect at least 25%.

And I wish BAS nothing but a return to perfect health. I am praying for that outcome.

 

[Michelangelo]

I going through a lot of shit, Jim....

and, Yes, you know me we have spoken many times on the phone ...

on another site...

thx for asking...

Bob

I'm sorry to hear that, Bob. If there is anything I can do just ask. You and your brother are good people.

 

[Defying]

I think expecting 90% when someone is assuming all risk is a big ask

 

[CaptainLee]

I think expecting 90% when someone is assuming all risk is a big ask

If you or any other poster here is vouching for BAS or anybody else as 100% solid, why is 90% a risk? If others owed are willing to accept 75% or even less thats their choice. I've collected from BAS from other contests. Facts are that I want and need the money more sooner than later which isn't any of your business. In fact he should be offering a small handling fee less than either 10% or 25% and be happy with it. If I or anybody else who is owed contest why is it any of your business regarding what transaction is made and at what %?

 

[PatsFan1283]

If you or any other poster here is vouching for BAS or anybody else as 100% solid, why is 90% a risk? If others owed are willing to accept 75% or even less thats their choice. I've collected from BAS from other contests. Facts are that I want and need the money more sooner than later which isn't any of your business. In fact he should be offering a small handling fee less than either 10% or 25% and be happy with it. If I or anybody else who is owed contest why is it any of your business regarding what transaction is made and at what %?

Agree....My point was more about what he was saying his intentions were and acting like it was this noble endeavor he was conducting. Just rubbed me the wrong way. But enough about that.

Totally agree all of you guys should just pursue whatever deals you want.

 

[TrackGabe]

I think expecting 90% when someone is assuming all risk is a big ask

agree, the man had two strokes. That is NOT GOOD. That alone is risky imho.

I really hope BAS is ok, health is our true wealth.

 

[Defying]

Yeah I take my comment back. It’s a market, I’m just saying I wouldn’t consider it at 90% for the hassle. Each their own. I think 25% is fair

 

[CaptainLee]

Hopefully its all resolved soon and bas gets healthy.

 

[Defying]

My only points are Bas is solid, Shdw is solid and here... and I think it was kind for shdw to offer.. and I hope BAS recovers.

 

[Defying]

Just thought of something. Make sure if you tipped job you tell shdw

 

[MattyMatt]

Yeah I take my comment back. It’s a market, I’m just saying I wouldn’t consider it at 90% for the hassle. Each their own. I think 25% is fair

I said I was a buyer before shdw did, but I couldn’t care less if he gets action. 25% is utter garbage, though. I’ll do it for 15-17.5%, but everyone’s gonna get paid in the end, I truly believe that...

 

[MattyMatt]

I ask before, no answer, but did JOH not get his 10% Service fee already either?

 

[MattyMatt]

Just thought of something. Make sure if you tipped JOH you tell shdw

Now that is something to really think about and know for sure...

 

[HotshotGambler]

Yep I expect to get paid in full, that’s why I won’t take a scum offer from a EV guy. Listen if no one is paid, that’s $35,000 plus owed im sure someone will take a visit.