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Pedophiles shouldn’t be able to raise kids because they are attracted kids.

Are you really gonna go that route? Come on man.

My point went completely over your head.

Your argument is that homos have no control over their gay urges, and that justifies whatever they want to do: marry, adopt...

They same argument holds for pedophilia.

Though many homos are indeed pedophiles.
 

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I think what he said makes a lot of sense, but the key point he makes is that every relationship should be judged on its own merits. I’ve never adopted but I’m sure the process is thorough and not just any couple is allowed to adopt. I’m also pretty sure that there are many cases where heterosexual couples adopt and end up abusing the adoptive child. Shit happens in all areas of life. I agree the probability of the abuse happening with a gay couple is greater but it’s also less likely those couples will get approved for adoption. The vetting process for adoptions to place these children is really the key issue here. If it’s not properly done then the chance for problems going forward are greatly enhanced no matter whether the couple is gay or not.

Wabash, I have to admit I am taken aback by your response on this issue, while I of course completely agree that each adoption should be on a case by case basis to give someone strike 1 right out of the box because the couple is gay is completely and utterly wrong. There is absolutely zero evidence that a gay couple would be of greater risk for abusing the child. I have no clue why you would believe this, perhaps you could explain.
 

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My point went completely over your head.

Your argument is that homos have no control over their gay urges, and that justifies whatever they want to do: marry, adopt...

They same argument holds for pedophilia.


Though many homos are indeed pedophiles.

It didn't go over his head in the lest...you're simply an idiot. To compare being gay(having sex with another adult) to having sex with children is the ball park of being RunMaker stupid. Congrats.
 
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Wabash, I have to admit I am taken aback by your response on this issue, while I of course completely agree that each adoption should be on a case by case basis to give someone strike 1 right out of the box because the couple is gay is completely and utterly wrong. There is absolutely zero evidence that a gay couple would be of greater risk for abusing the child. I have no clue why you would believe this, perhaps you could explain.

Bullshit. It is utter lunacy to suggest that children are not harmed by not having a mother and a father.

Of course you can find biased BS studies by the LGBTQ mafia ... the facts are obvious and common sense.


[h=1]Growing up with gay parents: What is the big deal?*[/h]Richard P. Fitzgibbons

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[FONT=&quot]A very large body of social science research going back decades has documented the vital and unique role of mothers and of fathers in childhood development. These studies have also demonstrated the negative psychological, educational, and social effects on children who have been deprived of growing up in a home with both biological parents who are married to each other.
A very brief summary of findings on the mothers' unique and crucial role in childhood development would include these points:

  • 1. Infants and toddlers prefer their mothers to their fathers when they seek solace or relief from hunger, fear, sickness, or some other distress;
  • 2. Mothers tend to be more soothing;
  • 3. Mothers are more responsive to the distinctive cries of infants: they are better able than fathers, for example, to distinguish between their baby's cry of hunger and cry of pain;
  • 4. They are also better than fathers at detecting their children's emotions by looking at their faces, postures, and gestures. Not surprisingly, then,
  • 5. Children who were deprived of maternal care during extended periods in their early lives “lacked feeling, had superficial relationships, and exhibited hostile or antisocial tendencies” as they developed into adulthood. (Kobak 1999)
Clinical experience would suggest that motherlessness, while not studied as extensively as fatherlessness, causes even greater damage to a child, because the role of the mother is so crucial in establishing a child's ability to trust and to feel safe in relationships.
Fathers also bring an array of distinctive talents to the parenting enterprise.

  • 1. Fathers excel when it comes to providing discipline and play and challenging their children to embrace life's challenges;
  • 2. Fathers provide essential role models for boys;
  • 3. A father's presence in the home protects a child from fear and strengthens a child's ability to feel safe.
The extensive research on the serious psychological, academic, and social problems in youth raised in fatherless families demonstrates the importance of the presence of the father in the home for healthy childhood development.
Let us look, then, at some of the larger, well-designed studies that have shown the risks experienced by children who were deprived of growing up in a home with both biological parents who were married to each other.

  • 1. A 2013 Canadian study (Allen 2013), which analyzed data from a very large population-based sample, revealed that the children of gay and lesbian couples are only about 65 percent as likely to have graduated from high school as are the children of married, opposite-sex couples. The girls are more apt to struggle academically than the boys. Daughters of lesbian “parents” displayed dramatically lower graduation rates. Three key findings stood out in this study: children of married, opposite-sex parents have a high graduation rate compared to the others; children of lesbian families have a very low graduation rate compared to the others; and children in the other four types of living arrangements (common law marriage, gay couple, single mother, and single father) are similar to each other and fall between the extremes of married heterosexual parents and lesbian couples.
  • 2. A study of 174 primary school children in Australia (Sarantakos 1996) compared the social and educational development of 58 children living in married families, 58 living with cohabiting heterosexuals, and 58 living in homosexual unions. The authors found that married couples offer the best environment for a child's social and educational development, followed by cohabiting heterosexual couples and lastly by homosexual couples.
  • 3. In a study (Goldberg 2007) of 36 adults raised by lesbian, gay, and bisexual (LGB) parents, 15 of them (42%) described challenges relating to their ability to trust other people.
  • 4. A study (Sirota 2009) of 68 women with gay or bisexual fathers and 68 women with heterosexual fathers found a statistically significant difference between the two groups. The women (whose average age in both groups was 29) with gay or bisexual fathers had difficulty with adult attachment issues in three areas: (1) they were less comfortable with closeness and intimacy; (2) they were less able to trust and depend on others; and (3) they experienced more anxiety in relationships compared to the women raised by heterosexual fathers (and mothers).
  • 5. A study (Potter 2012) in the Journal of Marriage and Family, found that “children in same-sex parent families scored lower than their peers living in married, two-biological parent households” on two academic outcomes. Potter concluded that these differences can be attributed to higher levels of family instability in cohabiting or “married” same-sex families, compared to intact, biological married parent families. The study was based on a large, nationally representative, and random survey of school-age children.
  • 6. In a 2012 re-examination of a 2010 study by Rosenfeld (Allen et al. 2012) on the association between child outcomes and same-sex family structure, the researchers found that compared with traditional married households, children being raised by same-sex couples were 35 percent less likely to make normal progress through school. This difference is statistically significant at the 1 percent level.The conclusion of this important research—that “with respect to normal school progress, children residing in same-sex households can be distinguished statistically from those in traditional married homes and in heterosexual cohabiting households”—is consistent with Sarantakos’ well-designed study of 174 primary school children in Australia.
  • 7. A ground-breaking study from the University of Texas at Austin (Regnerus 2012) found that young-adult children (ages 18–39) of parents who had same-sex relationships before the subjects had reached the age of 18 were more likely to suffer from a broad range of emotional and social problems. The study is noteworthy for several reasons: (1) his study sample was large, representative, and population-based (not a small, self-selected group); (2) Regnerus studied the responses of adult children rather than asking same-sex parents to describe how their young dependent children are doing; and (3) he was able to draw comparisons on up to 80 measures for children who had lived with (or had) parents who fell into one of eight categories—intact families with both biological parents who were married to each other, lesbian mothers, gay fathers, heterosexual single parents, parents who later divorced, cohabiting parents, parents who adopted the respondent, and other (such as a deceased parent). The children of lesbians and gays fared worse than those in intact heterosexual families on 77 of the 80 outcome measures. Exceptions related only to the voting habits of children with gay fathers, and alcohol use by children of lesbian mothers.
  • 8. In recent years, married or cohabiting gay and lesbian couples have acquired children through artificial insemination or in vitro fertilization. Research published in 2010 (Marquardt et al. 2010) demonstrated some of the negative consequences to donor-conceived individuals: on average, young adults conceived through artificial insemination were more confused, felt more isolated from their families, were experiencing more psychic pain, and fared worse in areas such as depression, delinquency, and substance abuse than a matched group of children who were conceived naturally.
  • 9. Men in gay unions are now also seeking biologically related children through the use of surrogate mothers. A 2013 study of children conceived through surrogate mothers by (Golombok et al. 2013) comparing them to children born through egg donation, donor insemination, and natural conception. The children were evaluated at ages 3, 7, and 10. The study demonstrated that children gestated by a surrogate had higher adjustment difficulties at age 7 than the other children. The authors concluded that the absence of a gestational connection to the mother may be problematic for children. The lead researcher stated, “signs of adjustment problems could be behaviour problems, such as aggressive or antisocial behaviour, or emotional problems, such as anxiety or depression.”
  • 10. In a 2015 study (Sullins 2015a) using a representative sample of 207,007 children, including 512 with same-sex parents, from the US National Health Interview Survey, emotional problems were over twice as prevalent (minimum risk ratio (RR) 2.4, 95%confidence interval (CI) 1.7–3.0) for children with same-sex parents than for children with opposite-sex parents.
  • 11. Attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder was more than twice (RR 2.4, 95% CI 1.6–3.4) as prevalent among children with same-sex parents than in the general population, after controlling for age, sex, ethnicity, and parent socio-economic status (Sullins 2015b).
How can one reconcile these significant findings with the widely publicized studies showing no harmful effects to children who have, or have lived with, lesbian or gay parents?
For example, in 2005, the American Psychological Association (APA) issued an official brief on lesbian and gay parenting, which included this assertion: “Not a single study has found children of lesbian and gay parents to be disadvantaged in any significant respect relative to children of heterosexual parents” (American Psychological Association 2005).
However, a 2012 research study of the APA Brief and its bibliography by L. Marks stated that this strong assertion made by the APA was not empirically warranted. Twenty-six of 59 APA studies on same-sex parenting had no heterosexual comparison groups. And in comparison studies, single mothers were often used as the heterosexual comparison group. In none of the 59 published studies were the definitive claims substantiated. The author recommended further research.
Major flaws exist in the vast majority of studies published before 2012 on this subject (Marks 2012) including the fact that they relied upon small, nonrepresentative samples that are not representative of children in typical homosexual families in the United States.
Two major studies, published by Gartrell and Bos (2010) and Biblarz and Stacey (2010), are often cited by gay activists and extensively in the media. These studies claim that no psychological damage occurs to children who were deliberately deprived of the benefits of gender complementarity in a home with a father and a mother. The article by Gartrell and Bos relies solely on self-reports of the lesbian mothers who were aware of the political agenda behind the study.
Similarly, in the research done by Biblarz and Stacey, in 31 of the 33 studies of two-parent families, it was the parents who provided the data, which consisted of subjective judgments. As with the Gartrell and Bos study, this created a social desirability bias, because the lesbian parents knew full well why the study was being done.
In a 2015 analysis (Sullins 2015c), studies, which recruited samples of children in same-sex unions, showed that 79.3 percent (range: 75–83) of comparisons were favorable to children with same-sex parents. In comparison, there were no favorable comparisons (0%, range 0–0) in studies that used random sampling. The evidence suggested strong bias resulting in false positive outcomes for parent-reported measures in recruited samples of same-sex parents.
An objective examination of social science research into how families function reveals clearly that children do best when raised by both a mother and a father and fully supports this statement by the former Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger when he headed the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith:
the absence of complementarity in these unions (same sex) creates obstacles in the normal development of children who would be placed in the care of such persons. They would be deprived of the experience of either fatherhood or motherhood. Allowing children to be adopted by persons living in such unions would actually mean doing violence to these children, in the sense that the condition of dependency would be used to place them in an environment that is not conducive to their full human development.
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[FONT=&quot][h=2]Biographical Note[/h]Richard Fitzgibbons, M.D., is the director of the Institute for Marital Healing outside Philadelphia and has worked with several thousand couples over the past forty years. Trained in psychiatry at the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania and the Philadelphia Child Guidance Center, he participated in cognitive therapy research with Aaron T. Beck. He has been an adjunct professor at the Pontifical John Paul II Institute for the Studies of Marriage and Family (The Catholic University of America, Washington, DC) and a consultor to the Vatican's Congregation for the Clergy.
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  • American Psychological Association. 2005. Lesbian & gay parenting. http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/parenting-full.pdf.
  • Biblarz T.J., Stacey J. 2010. How does the gender of parents matter? Journal of Marriage and Family 72: 3–22.
  • Gartrell N., Bos H. 2010. US national longitudinal lesbian family study: Psychological adjustment of 17-year-old adolescents. Pediatrics 126: 28–36. [PubMed]
  • Goldberg A.E. 2007. (How) does it make a difference? Perspectives of adults with lesbian, gay, and bisexual parents. American Journal of Orthopsychiatry 77: 550–62. [PubMed]
  • Golombok S., Blake L., Casey P., Roman G., Jadva V. 2013. Children born through reproductive donation: A longitudinal study of psychological adjustment. Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry 54: 653–60. [PMC free article] [PubMed]
  • Kobak R. 1999. The emotional dynamics of disruptions in attachment relationships: Implications for theory, research, and clinical intervention. In Cassidy J., Shaver P.R. (eds.), Handbook of Attachment(pp. 21–43). New York: The Guilford Press.
  • Marks L. 2012. Same-sex parenting and children's outcomes: A closer examination of the American Psychological Association's brief on lesbian and gay parenting. Social Science Research 41: 735–51. [PubMed]
  • Marquardt T., , Glenn N., , Clark K. 2010 My daddy's name is ‘donor’: A new study of young adults conceived through sperm donation. Institute for American Values. http://americanvalues.org/catalog/pdfs/Donor_FINAL.pdf .
  • Potter D. 2012. Same-sex parent families and children's academic achievement. Journal of Marriage and Family 74: 556–71.
  • Regnerus M. 2012. How different are the adult children of parents who have same-sex relationships? Findings from the New Family Structures Study. Social Science Research 41: 752–70. [PubMed]
  • Sarantakos S. 1996. Children in three contexts. Children Australia 21: 23–31.
  • Sullins D.P. 2015a Emotional problems among children with same-sex parents: Difference by definition. British Journal of Education, Society and Behavioural Science (January 25), http://dx.doi.org/10.2139/ssrn.2500537 .
  • Sullins D.P. 2015b. Child attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) in same-sex parent families in the United States: Prevalence and comorbidities. British Journal of Medicine and Medical Research 6: 987–98.
  • Sullins D.P. 2015c. Bias in recruited sample research on children with same-sex parents using the strength and difficulties questionnaire (SDQ). Journal of Scientific Research and Reports 5(5): 375–87.
  • Sirota T. 2009. Adult attachment style dimensions in women with gay or bisexual fathers. Archives of Psychiatric Nursing 23: 289–97. [PubMed]

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It didn't go over his head in the lest...you're simply an idiot. To compare being gay(having sex with another adult) to having sex with children is the ball park of being RunMaker stupid. Congrats.

You're just not very bright. I'm not comparing what you are suggesting. I'm saying the argument in itself is faulty. Logic 101 idiot.
 

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My point went completely over your head.

Your argument is that homos have no control over their gay urges, and that justifies whatever they want to do: marry, adopt...

They same argument holds for pedophilia.

Though many homos are indeed pedophiles.

No, that’s not my argument. You just decided to make it mine to connect it to that retarded logic of comparing homosexuals to pedophiles.

I said a person’s attraction to someone of their own sex, which is out of their control, argubly shouldn’t prevent them from being able to raise kids. Of course I don’t believe this for pedophiles
 

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No, that’s not my argument. You just decided to make it mine to connect it to that retarded logic of comparing homosexuals to pedophiles.

I said a person’s attraction to someone of their own sex, which is out of their control, argubly shouldn’t prevent them from being able to raise kids. Of course I don’t believe this for pedophiles

Dead on, they choose to be gay as much as we choose to be straight. Their obsession with comparing everything to pedophilia is alarming...From Zit to Runmaker everyone they oppose is a pedophile. Pointless to waste time on this...
 
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Dead on, they choose to be gay as much as we choose to be straight. Their obsession with comparing everything to pedophilia is alarming...From Zit to Runmaker everyone they oppose is a pedophile. Pointless to waste time on this...

Except that there are plenty of cases where gays choose to be gay. I know this doesn't fit your narrative, but it's a fact.

Funny how that works for a mindless libtard:

straight person turns gay -> oh, they were gay the whole time
gay person turns straight -> oh, they are still gay

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Except that there are plenty of cases where gays choose to be gay. I know this doesn't fit your narrative, but it's a fact.

Funny how that works for a mindless libtard:

straight person turns gay -> oh, they were gay the whole time
gay person turns straight -> oh, they are still gay

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Why would any straight person “turn gay?” I’ve never heard a good answer to this question.

Being gay or straight is something you’re born with
 
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Why would any straight person “turn gay?” I’ve never heard a good answer to this question.

Being gay or straight is something you’re born with

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Can Sexual Preference Change With Age?

Research shows attraction can be fluid when love is involved

by Dr. Pepper Schwartz, AARP | Comments: 2






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Researchers are discovering that a person's sexual orientation is not carved in stone

En español | Sometimes a person's life undergoes such a radical transformation that the change was inconceivable before it occurred. One such gobsmacking event happens when you unexpectedly fall in love with someone who never would have pinged your "relationship radar" before. If a homosexual (or heterosexual) thought has never crossed your mind, for example, it can be doubly astonishing when — wham! — you suddenly find yourself attracted to someone of an entirely new gender.
That may sound unlikely, but as researchers are discovering, a person's sexual orientation is not carved in stone. In her influential book Sexual Fluidity, psychology professor Lisa M. Diamond chronicled her research on 80 nonheterosexual women over a period of 10 years. During that time, Diamond discovered, a significant number of the women had reported changing their sexual orientation. The most frequent cause for the U-turn? The "switchers" had fallen in love with a member of the opposite sex.





These women were not unhappy being lesbians, but love, it seems, really can conquer all — including a person's lifelong sexual orientation up to the moment when she falls hard for someone of a previously ignored gender.
The research on men shows somewhat less flexibility. But Diamond and other researchers have compiled numerous case studies of gay men who spent years feeling (and acting) fully and comfortably homosexual, only then to fall unexpectedly in love with a heterosexual woman.
Recently, I interviewed two people who went through this sexual upheaval late in life themselves. Both said they had never even considered falling in love with someone of the same — or opposite — gender until they reached their 50s or 60s. Only at that relatively late stage in life did they undergo startling 180-degree turns in their sexual orientation. (While the facts of each case are accurate, I've used pseudonyms at the subjects' request.)
Violet — a tall, striking woman of 60 with snow-white hair — had never married, but she had enjoyed major love affairs with men. Intensely dedicated to her career, she became a TV executive at age 40. After her last relationship with a man ended in her 40s, Violet says she "gave up on love."




Then she met Susan.
A marketing expert, Susan was in a pleasant but not passionate heterosexual marriage at the time. She valued her extended family — husband, two children and their spouses, and four grandchildren — more than anything else. Susan had never been unfaithful. She had never been attracted to another woman. But from the moment she and Violet began working together on a project, sparks flew, shocking both women. A physical relationship of 12 years ensued.


When Violet finally admitted to herself that the two women would never enjoy a fully realized partnership, she ended the relationship. (Susan's husband knew about his wife's involvement and tolerated it, but neither he nor Susan was willing to jeopardize their close-knit family relations.) Violet loved Susan with all her heart, but she did not define herself as gay in the wake of the affair — nor has she become involved in another same-sex relationship since. Her "sexual turnaround" applied to Susan and Susan alone.
Ned had been gay his entire adult life. Though he had a few sexual relationships with women in high school, he never thought of himself as heterosexual or even bisexual: Ned liked women, but he loved men.
When he was 29, Ned fell deeply in love with Gerry, a man 10 years older. They remained a couple for 23 years, which included getting married in 2008, the year California first permitted same-sexunions. Like most spouses, Ned and Gerry had their ups and downs, but they always considered their marriage rock-solid.
Then, turmoil: Gerry was falsely accused of improprieties at work. Eventually, he was exonerated, but Gerry's legal defense took a toll — both personally and financially — on the couple. To help restock their coffers, Ned entered graduate school, where he started spending a lot of time with fellow students. Before long, he had fallen deeply in love with one of them, a woman named Elsa.
Gerry was naturally stunned when Ned asked him for a divorce. The split unfolded amicably enough, but Gerry saw Ned's actions as inconceivable and unexplainable. Within a year Ned and Elsa were married and had a baby daughter; their marriage remains strong today.
These stories are unusual, but they are not unique. They point up how imperfectly behavioral scientists understand what attracts us to a certain person at one time in our lives, but to a completely different kind of person at another. Violet and Ned add two more bits of anecdotal evidence to our dawning understanding that many of us possess more sexual flexibility than we ever knew.



https://www.aarp.org/home-family/sex-intimacy/info-2014/gay-lesbian-sexual-preference-schwartz.html
 
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Wabash, I have to admit I am taken aback by your response on this issue, while I of course completely agree that each adoption should be on a case by case basis to give someone strike 1 right out of the box because the couple is gay is completely and utterly wrong. There is absolutely zero evidence that a gay couple would be of greater risk for abusing the child. I have no clue why you would believe this, perhaps you could explain.

The abuse of a child can come in many forms and I never said it’s definite and that just because they are gay that they automatically get a strike against. Just that the probability is greater because there are other factors the child will face. A child can be abused by others outside the home just because they have gay parents for one thing. As I said before, Willie made a key point but most down here would rather group all the gays as one and because a few are bad they all must be. Every case should be judged on its own merit.
 

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Zit we've went around and around on this subject before. I'm in the camp that your choice,
straight/gay is predetermined IE you're born that way.

If you believe that a person has the ability to change via theropy or whatever, how do you
explain bi-sexual other than it appears to be best of both worlds and it doubles your chances
of getting a date on Saturday night.

P.S. Sighting an interview with Oprah is tacky.
 

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Nope.

Can Sexual Preference Change With Age?

Research shows attraction can be fluid when love is involved

by Dr. Pepper Schwartz, AARP | Comments: 2






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Researchers are discovering that a person's sexual orientation is not carved in stone

En español | Sometimes a person's life undergoes such a radical transformation that the change was inconceivable before it occurred. One such gobsmacking event happens when you unexpectedly fall in love with someone who never would have pinged your "relationship radar" before. If a homosexual (or heterosexual) thought has never crossed your mind, for example, it can be doubly astonishing when — wham! — you suddenly find yourself attracted to someone of an entirely new gender.
That may sound unlikely, but as researchers are discovering, a person's sexual orientation is not carved in stone. In her influential book Sexual Fluidity, psychology professor Lisa M. Diamond chronicled her research on 80 nonheterosexual women over a period of 10 years. During that time, Diamond discovered, a significant number of the women had reported changing their sexual orientation. The most frequent cause for the U-turn? The "switchers" had fallen in love with a member of the opposite sex.




These women were not unhappy being lesbians, but love, it seems, really can conquer all — including a person's lifelong sexual orientation up to the moment when she falls hard for someone of a previously ignored gender.
The research on men shows somewhat less flexibility. But Diamond and other researchers have compiled numerous case studies of gay men who spent years feeling (and acting) fully and comfortably homosexual, only then to fall unexpectedly in love with a heterosexual woman.
Recently, I interviewed two people who went through this sexual upheaval late in life themselves. Both said they had never even considered falling in love with someone of the same — or opposite — gender until they reached their 50s or 60s. Only at that relatively late stage in life did they undergo startling 180-degree turns in their sexual orientation. (While the facts of each case are accurate, I've used pseudonyms at the subjects' request.)
Violet — a tall, striking woman of 60 with snow-white hair — had never married, but she had enjoyed major love affairs with men. Intensely dedicated to her career, she became a TV executive at age 40. After her last relationship with a man ended in her 40s, Violet says she "gave up on love."




Then she met Susan.
A marketing expert, Susan was in a pleasant but not passionate heterosexual marriage at the time. She valued her extended family — husband, two children and their spouses, and four grandchildren — more than anything else. Susan had never been unfaithful. She had never been attracted to another woman. But from the moment she and Violet began working together on a project, sparks flew, shocking both women. A physical relationship of 12 years ensued.


When Violet finally admitted to herself that the two women would never enjoy a fully realized partnership, she ended the relationship. (Susan's husband knew about his wife's involvement and tolerated it, but neither he nor Susan was willing to jeopardize their close-knit family relations.) Violet loved Susan with all her heart, but she did not define herself as gay in the wake of the affair — nor has she become involved in another same-sex relationship since. Her "sexual turnaround" applied to Susan and Susan alone.
Ned had been gay his entire adult life. Though he had a few sexual relationships with women in high school, he never thought of himself as heterosexual or even bisexual: Ned liked women, but he loved men.
When he was 29, Ned fell deeply in love with Gerry, a man 10 years older. They remained a couple for 23 years, which included getting married in 2008, the year California first permitted same-sexunions. Like most spouses, Ned and Gerry had their ups and downs, but they always considered their marriage rock-solid.
Then, turmoil: Gerry was falsely accused of improprieties at work. Eventually, he was exonerated, but Gerry's legal defense took a toll — both personally and financially — on the couple. To help restock their coffers, Ned entered graduate school, where he started spending a lot of time with fellow students. Before long, he had fallen deeply in love with one of them, a woman named Elsa.
Gerry was naturally stunned when Ned asked him for a divorce. The split unfolded amicably enough, but Gerry saw Ned's actions as inconceivable and unexplainable. Within a year Ned and Elsa were married and had a baby daughter; their marriage remains strong today.
These stories are unusual, but they are not unique. They point up how imperfectly behavioral scientists understand what attracts us to a certain person at one time in our lives, but to a completely different kind of person at another. Violet and Ned add two more bits of anecdotal evidence to our dawning understanding that many of us possess more sexual flexibility than we ever knew.



https://www.aarp.org/home-family/sex-intimacy/info-2014/gay-lesbian-sexual-preference-schwartz.html

Jesus Christ.

Yeah, experiences/situations can affect how you choose to express your orientation; you also can realize you’re orientation at later points in your life. But your sexual oreientation isn’t absolutely natural.

A lot of people suppress their natural sexuality in fear of not being accepted. One of my dad’s friends was a married and had three kids and wasn’t able to come out as being attracted to men until his 50’s. That doesn’t mean he switched from straight to gay lol he was always attracted to men!
 

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Jesus Christ.

Yeah, experiences/situations can affect how you choose to express your orientation; you also can realize you’re orientation at later points in your life. But your sexual oreientation isn’t absolutely natural.

A lot of people suppress their natural sexuality in fear of not being accepted. One of my dad’s friends was a married and had three kids and wasn’t able to come out as being attracted to men until his 50’s. That doesn’t mean he switched from straight to gay lol he was always attracted to men!
I think there was sitcom about him....

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NUTS: Democrats Vote Unanimously to Force Schools to Include Biological Males in Women’s Sports

by Jim Hoft May 18, 2019 283 Comments

The end of women’s sports as we know it.

For the second year in a row, transgender wrestler Mack Beggs won the Texas girls’ Class 6A 110-pound wrestling division. Beggs is in the process of transitioning from female to male and taking testosterone. Mack won the title last year too.
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In October 2018 trangender Dr. Rachel McKinnon (in the middle) became the
first ever transgender world champion in a womens cycling event.


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In March 2017, Laurel Hubbard, a 39 year-old transgender who was born male,
won her first international women’s weightlifting title in Australia breaking four national records in the process.

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Last week two trans athletes
won 1st and 2nd place at the Connecticut state indoor track championships.


Democrats call this “progress.”


On Friday the Democrat controlled House of Representatives voted
236-173 in favor of the Equality Act, which would require schools to include male athletes who identify as transgender girls on female sports teams. The bill had unanimous Democrat party support.


The bill forces schools to include biological males in women’s sports.

This is pure insanity.


Biological males have a distinct advantage over females in athletics.

This bill hurts women the most.


The Daily Caller
reported:

The bill amends the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to make “sexual orientation and gender identity” protected characteristics under federal anti-discrimination law.

Among other things, that would force public schools to expand female athletic teams to include biological males who identify as transgender girls.

Republican Florida Rep. Greg Steube introduced a last-minute amendment to the bill that would have preserved Title IX’s protections of female athletic teams, but Democrats rejected it.


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NUTS: Democrats Vote Unanimously to Force Schools to Include Biological Males in Women’s Sports

by Jim Hoft May 18, 2019 283 Comments

The end of women’s sports as we know it.

For the second year in a row, transgender wrestler Mack Beggs won the Texas girls’ Class 6A 110-pound wrestling division. Beggs is in the process of transitioning from female to male and taking testosterone. Mack won the title last year too.
rachel-cylcling-trans-winner-.jpg


In October 2018 trangender Dr. Rachel McKinnon (in the middle) became the
first ever transgender world champion in a womens cycling event.


laurel-hubbard-trans-600x337.jpg


In March 2017, Laurel Hubbard, a 39 year-old transgender who was born male,
won her first international women’s weightlifting title in Australia breaking four national records in the process.

IMG_3333-600x301.jpg


Last week two trans athletes
won 1st and 2nd place at the Connecticut state indoor track championships.


Democrats call this “progress.”


On Friday the Democrat controlled House of Representatives voted
236-173 in favor of the Equality Act, which would require schools to include male athletes who identify as transgender girls on female sports teams. The bill had unanimous Democrat party support.


The bill forces schools to include biological males in women’s sports.

This is pure insanity.


Biological males have a distinct advantage over females in athletics.

This bill hurts women the most.


The Daily Caller
reported:

The bill amends the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to make “sexual orientation and gender identity” protected characteristics under federal anti-discrimination law.

Among other things, that would force public schools to expand female athletic teams to include biological males who identify as transgender girls.

Republican Florida Rep. Greg Steube introduced a last-minute amendment to the bill that would have preserved Title IX’s protections of female athletic teams, but Democrats rejected it.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...to-include-biological-males-in-womens-sports/

So much for DemoScum being for Women's rights, because this asinine bill fucks over every woman athlete out there.

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