Shots Fired & Several People Killed In Munich, Germany Shopping Center

[ML Dog]

Summer camps are a bit different on the Gaza strip.

Each year young Palestinians take part in military-style activities organised by the Islamic Jihad Movement (PIJ). (Picturer: EPA/HATEM OMAR)

How is such acceptable

On any Planet?


The Answer is that is is not.



There is no other possible answer to that question.


And there is only one possible path available and open to Humanity....to address this Plague overall.

And eliminate this terrible terrible problem.

That has been exactly what you see here for 1400 years.

These pictures show young Palestinians taking part in military-style activities organised by the Islamic Jihad Movement (PIJ).


Last year, some 6,000 boys, aged between six and 16, graduated from the camp in Khan Younis, according to local reports.


Going to camp over the summer is a common thing for Palestinian children to do.


Both Hamas and the UN run their own camps, which are free for children to attend, according to Ynetnews.



They are breeding and manufacturing Killing Machines.

Whatever one's Opinion on Israel there can surely be only on POSSIBLE "Opinion" on this.

http://metro.co.uk/2016/07/13/pictures-summer-camps-are-a-bit-different-on-the-gaza-strip-6004828/

 

[festeringZit]

I've read Chaim Potok's books. Great reads.

 

[ScottL]

Israel should be blowing up these so-called "children" and the terror masters who run these camps but is too concerned abou "World Opinion."
It disgusts me.

This is some high-level posting ML. Much appreciated!

<header class="comment__header"> Mark Goldberg • 3 hours ago </header> "Thankfully, unlike the Palestinian Narrative of Perpetual Victim-hood, we actually have history and demographic reality on our side in terms of the discussion from an ethical standpoint."

ML I agree this doesn't cover your point about countering how Islamists think. However in his defense he may only be posting this truth in terms of internet combat with those who debate for the other side by supporting the Pals because they read somewhere the myth of "Stolen Land." Not all pro-pal net posters go as deep as you with the false David-Goliath thing. Many of them are simply just willful morons who believe Jews built their nation by replacing a thriving 'Palestine' and displacing all the people. Some say they still have keys to the homes they lost ya know ;-)

 

[Greenbacks]

Who were the Munich shooting victims? Eight of nine dead under 20 years old.

A Greek teenager killed in the Munich gun rampage threw himself in front of his twin sister to protect her from a hail of bullets, according to reports.
Huseyin Dayicik, 19, was shot twice by Ali Sonboly after pushing his sister out of the gunman’s way, according to MailOnline. The siblings had been at the Olympia shopping centre looking for gifts for their family, reports said.

The identities of the nine mainly young victims of the shooting spree have emerged amid claims that 18-year-old Sonboly may have targeted people of Turkish and Arab origin, groups he apparently felt had picked on him at school.

Police said on Saturday that two victims were 13, three were 14, one was 17 and another was 19. The remaining two were 20 and 45. Six were male and three were female.
Twenty-seven people are being treated in the city’s hospitals for injuries sustained in the attack. Ten people – including a 13-year-old boy – remain in a critical condition and the death toll could rise further, officials said.

Among the dead were two 14-year-old Kosovan girls, Armela Segashi and Sabina Sulaj, and their Turkish friends Can Leyla, 14 and Selcuk Kilic, 15, according to reports.
Eighteen-year-old Guilliano Kollman reportedly died after being shot outside the McDonald’s where Sonboly began his murderous rampage.
On Saturday afternoon Naim Zabergja, a policeman of Kosovan heritage, visited the scene to lay flowers where his son, Dijamant, 21, was killed. According to reports the oldest victim was Sevda Dag, a 45-year-old Turkish woman.

The Greek foreign ministry confirmed the death of Dayicik, who was born in Germany and lived there with his family but was a Greek citizen. A Greek Muslim MP tweeted that the victim hailed from the nation’s Muslim minority in the north of the country.
“One of the victims is an expatriate from Western Thrace,” Ilhan Ahmet said in the tweet. Greek prime minister, Alexis Tsipras, said that having a Greek among the dead “binds us even more to the fight to eradicate hatred and terrorism in Europe.”

Police said Sonboly had no criminal record but had been a victim of two minor crimes – a theft in 2010 and bodily harm in 2012. He had been receiving psychiatric care,.
There were reports that Sonboly, who was born and raised in Munich, had been bullied for several years. He was a student but no details about his school have been released.
Officers found material about killing sprees in his room after raiding the apartment where he lived with his family on Saturday. Computers were seized during the raid.

Munich police investigator Robert Heimberger said it appeared the gunman had hacked a Facebook account and posted a message promising free food in order to lure people to the McDonald’s restaurant in the Olympia shopping centre.

Munich has large communities of people who fled the Balkan wars in the 1990s, and in common with many German cities it is home to a diverse mix of people from many countries.
The gunman shot himself about half a mile from the shopping centre, but his body was not found until about two and a half hours after the incident began at 6pm local time on Friday.

 

[ScottL]

I've read Chaim Potok's books. Great reads.

Pleasantly surprised Zit.

 

[festeringZit]

Pleasantly surprised Zit.

I also enjoyed the movie "The Chosen," with Robbie Benson. I'm a Christian but have always been
intrigued with Judaism, it's history, customs... etc. Last year I had my family go through all the Passover Sedar customs.

We enjoyed it and plan on doing it again.

 

[ScottL]

I also enjoyed the movie "The Chosen," with Robbie Benson. I'm a Christian but have always been
intrigued with Judaism, it's history, customs... etc. Last year I had my family go through all the Passover Sedar customs.

We enjoyed it and plan on doing it again.

And before reading the chosen you probably thought all the infighting under the same roof started with you guys

 

[ScottL]

"I also enjoyed the movie "The Chosen," with Robbie Benson."


Yeah book and movie were great.

 

[ML Dog]

Itoo concerned about "World Opinion." It disgusts me.

When that WORLD OPINION is one that sees Killing Machines get allowed to exist and roam to places where Innocent Lives end as result and Great Suffering is known, We must disregard that Opinion.

Safety is Paramount. Those Opinions which lessen Safety MUST get treated as a very distance "secondary" concern

Its why MY Solution is to create The Caliphate. Give The Fanatics a Homeland, parts of Syria and Iraq then not just the Fanatics live there but We ship anyone here whose Philosophy is such that it would ALLOW for the continued existence of Killing Machines and any who want to live under Shari'a Law.....to that Caliphate.

I understand the challenges that such would bring, having an armed and militant "state" on the doorstep of Israel and anywhere on earth and I grasp other challenges but the longterm goal (Short term as possible really) is to Herd as many of the Cockroaches and Radical Leftists who are obstacles to progress into one area.

can't say anymore than that, for obvious reasons, but suffice to say:

"This approach would solve the problem once and for all."

 

[ScottL]

When that WORLD OPINION is one that sees Killing Machines get allowed to exist and roam to places where Innocent Lives end as result and Great Suffering is known, We must disregard that Opinion.

Safety is Paramount. Those Opinions which lessen Safety MUST get treated as a very distance "secondary" concern

Its why MY Solution is to create The Caliphate. Give The Fanatics a Homeland, parts of Syria and Iraq then not just the Fanatics live there but We ship anyone here whose Philosophy is such that it would ALLOW for the continued existence of Killing Machines and any who want to live under Shari'a Law.....to that Caliphate.

I understand the challenges that such would bring, having an armed and militant "state" on the doorstep of Israel and anywhere on earth and I grasp other challenges but the longterm goal (Short term as possible really) is to Herd as many of the Cockroaches and Radical Leftists who are obstacles to progress into one area.

can't say anymore than that, for obvious reasons, but suffice to say:

"This approach would solve the problem once and for all."

I think you're veering off here ML. We went into Iraq and remain in Afg supposedly to prevent a terorist regime from having a safe place to live and plot terror attacks and/or acquire WMD. To leave these folks unhindered in a land specified for them would never work. They would still aim to expand and kill innocents in neighboring locals. And the jihad around the world would continue unabated.

Time to finish the concert story

 

[ML Dog]

I also enjoyed the movie "The Chosen," with Robbie Benson. I'm a Christian but have always been
intrigued with Judaism, it's history, customs... etc. Last year I had my family go through all the Passover Sedar customs.

We enjoyed it and plan on doing it again.

Same here, I'm not Jewish and the only "connection" I know of in my life was only trying to "get with" Jewish girls when I was 18 and living in NYC. I did not have a great deal of success but that was not for a lack of trying. Made plenty of great Jewish Friends there though. I've always had a deep attraction to the History, don't know why and I think it is amazing and awesome that you have taken this far enough to try The Customs, the Traditions. That is phenomenal.

 

[HamGlaze]

I truly fear our Navy Seals are on grave danger..

 

[ML Dog]

I think you're veering off here ML. We went into Iraq and remain in Afg supposedly to prevent a terorist regime from having a safe place to live and plot terror attacks and/or acquire WMD. To leave these folks unhindered in a land specified for them would never work. They would still aim to expand and kill innocents in neighboring locals. And the jihad around the world would continue unabated.

Time to finish the concert story

On It's Surface yes, absolutely Veering WAY The Hell off Course.

I'd have it handled by the Muslim World though, led by The Saudis (The Sunnis), USA contributing only $$$$ and Manpower to creating the Infrastructure of The Caliphate, playing only a role which would buy for us Goodwill....from the Fanatics.

My only demand and only "Interference" would be that demand that Shia be separated from Sunni, Kurds also and that these be given areas that also have Economic Promise and not just barren wastelands with The Sunnis getting all the most rich areas.

Suggestion is a MASSIVE Simplification though, likely completely unrealistic, I'd settle for the option of giving the savages a Homeland just being AT THE TABLE at all.

Sufficiently Explored, considered, discussed.


Yeah....I will finish the concert story tonite if possible.....if not then, soon. its definitely worth waiting for cuz there is at least one hilarious part...

 

[ScottL]

On It's Surface yes, absolutely Veering WAY The Hell off Course.

I'd have it handled by the Muslim World though, led by The Saudis (The Sunnis), USA contributing only $$$$ and Manpower to creating the Infrastructure of The Caliphate, playing only a role which would buy for us Goodwill....from the Fanatics.

My only demand and only "Interference" would be that demand that Shia be separated from Sunni, Kurds also and that these be given areas that also have Economic Promise and not just barren wastelands with The Sunnis getting all the most rich areas.

Suggestion is a MASSIVE Simplification though, likely completely unrealistic, I'd settle for the option of giving the savages a Homeland just being AT THE TABLE at all.

Sufficiently Explored, considered, discussed.


Yeah....I will finish the concert story tonite if possible.....if not then, soon. its definitely worth waiting for cuz there is at least one hilarious part...

I think you're relying on the good will of too many people here. You're pretty close to saying, "You over here, you over here, and you over there. OK now stay in your lanes and play nice boys!"

One of the problems with getting Muslims involved in rooting out their own problems is (well at least up to this point for 1400 years) the forces of barbarism always triumph vs the forces of modernity. The bad guys run the show.


*What A Thread*

 

[ML Dog]

I think you're relying on the good will of too many people here. You're pretty close to saying, "You over here, you over here, and you over there. OK now stay in your lanes and play nice boys!"

One of the problems with getting Muslims involved in rooting out their own problems is (well at least up to this point for 1400 years) the forces of barbarism always triumph vs the forces of modernity. The bad guys run the show.


*What A Thread*

....being that they have not evolved over the course of 1400 Years, have not demonstrated (over that time) that they possess the intellectual capabilities that would be needed to evolve basically what I am proposing is the same scenario wherein a large 189 Unit apartment complex existed that was infested with Cockroaches, roaches within a great deal (large %) of the 189 Units and an ability existed also to get a good number of those roaches in to a single unit of the large complex.

I fully understand that such is a "Pie In The Sky" option, most probably impossible to accomplish for several reasons that I am not at present knowledgeable enough to understand. Its not as though The World has that many Options to dealing with these "people" though, the ideology that is Islam.

Certain Factions of this "Evolving" is not an option. They have not accomplished that over the course of 1400 years.

And they are simply not going to. At any point. Period.



Sunday, July 24, 2016
Sociopaths, savagery and the seductiveness of Palestinian Arab victimhood


Over at the LA Review of Books, under the title "The Humiliation Machine'", they have a new review by Amy Wilentz of
The Way to the Spring, Ben Ehrenreich’s new book about the Palestinian struggle against the ongoing and seemingly endless Israeli occupation [that] is bound to be a highly controversial work.

Ehrenreich has been promoting the violent and hateful Tamimi clan of Nabi Saleh, a village of about 550 people located a few kilometers north of Israel's capital, for years. It was the vehicle that enabled him to snag his biggest hit so far - a 2013 New York Times Magazine cover story about the place and its people. Long on romance and bravado and carefully phrased progressive-sounding rhetoric, that piece barely skims the deeply embedded bigotry and long record of acts of murder against Jews that are only too easy to see in the life of Nabi Saleh... if you look.

Ehrenreich plainly prefers not to look. He's a key player in sanitizing the Tamimi clan's blood-lust and race-based hatred of Jews.

We wrote an angry response when that heavily-marketed New York Times piece appeared ["17-Mar-13: A little village in the hills, and the monsters it spawns"]. Here's how it started:

Friends have pointed us to this week’s NYT Magazine cover story, published today. It’s devoted to a Palestinian Arab village set in the hills a few kilometers north of where we live in Jerusalem. It's a place the author calls “spirited”, where “on warm summer evenings, life… could feel almost idyllic. Everyone knows everyone.” He says “a pilgrimage” to this magical place “has achieved a measure of cachet among young European activists, the way a stint with the Zapatistas did in Mexico in the 1990s”.

How can a person not be captivated?

But there is much wrong with the picture he conjures up. We know this because for years we have been tracking the media’s romance with the community called Nabi Saleh. Sitting here and looking over the online version of it, we are furious with anger about what the article says, and what the writer and his editors carefully avoid saying.

http://thisongoingwar.blogspot.com/2016/07/24-jul-16-sociopaths-savagery-and.html

 

[ML Dog]

[h=1]The Humiliation Machine[/h] By Amy Wilentz
July 22, 2016

THE WAY TO THE SPRING, Ben Ehrenreich’s new book about the Palestinian struggle against the ongoing and seemingly endless Israeli occupation is sharp enough and opinionated enough to spark big fights about a situation that always ignites anger and even fury from all sides.

In the book, the author plunges into hotbeds of Palestinian resistance with an intimacy one rarely sees from a Western journalist. And good for him: an American readership needs to see what makes the Palestinian struggle tick, and we need to see it ticking on a daily basis.

Ehrenreich gives us that.

https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/the-humiliation-machine/

 

[ML Dog]

Comments that appear below the above article ^^^^^

• <header class="comment__header"> Dorn L • 6 hours ago </header> Ehrenreich ignores 67 years of Arab wars to destroy a tiny Jewish state, which in turn was preceded by 1400 years of Arab and Ottoman oppression and extermination of Jews across the Middle East. Go read Sir Martin Gilbert's "In Ishmael's House", for example.

In any event, would expelling all Jews from the West Bank bring peace? Israel withdrew all Jews from Gaza only to be "rewarded" with thousands of rocket attacks. Palestinian leaders have made it clear that a Palestinian state in the West Bank will not end the conflict, but instead be used for further hostilities against a more vulnerable Israel.

• 
  The core issue in the conflict remains Palestinian and broader Arab rejection of a permanent Israel behind any boundaries, and of any size.The Palestinian tragedy is that their obsession with destroying Israel far exceeds desire for a state. Imagine if Palestinian leaders had looked forward as did Israel, when it absorbed all the Jewish refugees from Arab countries and built a modern economy?

With what do Ehenreich, Wilentz etc. want to replace Israel? Another copy of authoritarian Egypt, Jordan, or faction filled Lebanon? Or with a Syria or Saudi Arabia? Or with the corrupt nepotism of the Palestinian Authority or Hamas? Ironically, the only country in the Middle East where an Arab judge presides over free elections in Israel!


<header class="comment__header"> Alan Stein • 21 hours ago</header>

• <header class="comment__header"> </header> "What makes the Palestinian struggle tick" is obvious, but totally ignored here.

• It's hatred and the refusal of the Palestinian Arabs to accept the existence of Israel. The so-called "occupation" ended, for most practical purposes, more than two decades ago when the Palestinian Authority took over responsibility for the governing of more than 95 percent of the Arabs in the disputed territories.

• The writer refers to the so-called "occupation" as "seemingly endless," but that's only because the Palestinians and their leadership refuse to agree to peace regardless of what they're offered, unless the offer would include the end of Israel. Remember, the Palestinian Arabs were offered a state in virtually all the disputed territory in 2000, again in 2001 and then were offered the equivalent of 100 percent of the disputed territories in 2008, but even that wasn't enough for them.

To pretend "the Palestinians and the Israelis are each other’s mirror image" is totally absurd. One side (the Israelis) want peace and are willing to make incredible concessions for it. The other side (the Palestinian Arabs) want the destruction of the other side.


Pretending otherwise helps perpetuate the conflict.






<header class="comment__header"> Petra Marquardt-Bigman • a day ago</header>

• <header class="comment__header"> </header> Many of the questions Amy Wilentz asks about the Tamimis are answered in my documentation about their ongoing support for terrorism here: http://www.thetower.org/articl... additional material is available in several other posts and articles I've written on the subject based on researching their publicly accessible social media posts with the help of a professional Arabic translator.

• What is perhaps particularly noteworthy about their support for terrorism is that they insist that even young children and teenagers have a "duty" to support what they call "resistance." That means that they not only regularly send their own children to provoke confrontations with the IDF, but also that they applaud teenage Palestinian terrorists. The recent murder of a 13-year-old girl in her bedroom, which Amy Wilentz mentions, perpetrated by a Palestinian just six years older than his victim, was hailed by the Tamimis as a heroic act that restored pride to their cause.

<header class="comment__header"> This Ongoing War • a day ago

</header>

• <header class="comment__header"> </header> Here's some more "poetry of the desert" that Ehrenreich might have included but chose not to. It's some frank opinion-sharing by Nariman Tamimi, whose under-appreciated, explosive bigotry rarely makes it into English publications.

We translated it from the Hebrew source in our blog last year. The context is important: it appeared at the same time as Amnesty International was spending a small fortune putting Tamimi's husband Bassem into the center of a US roadshow designed to further burnish his entirely bogus "heroism", a process Amnesty had begun a couple of years earlier and continues today, and which was accompanied by a round-the-clock effort to shield him and themselves from the fury of people who understand Tamimi's key role in murderous anti-Jew violence over the past decade.


The voice quoted in this extract is that of his wife, Nariman Tamimi:
http://thisongoingwar.blogspot...
"Women and children have always been a part of the struggle in Nabi Saleh, as opposed to what has happened in Qadoum, Bil'in and Ni'lin. Here, it’s a cultural thing, something traditional and educational, and also the fact that everyone in our village belongs to the one family numbering about 500 people and in reality there’s no alternative..."

• One of the major Palestinian murderers who emerged from the village is Ahlam Tamimi who transported the perpetrator of the terror at Jerusalem’s Sbarro pizzeria. [Nariman again] "What she [Ahlam Tamimi] did was an integral part of the struggle. Everyone fights in the manner in which he believes. There is armed uprising, and there is popular uprising. I support every form of uprising...
• 
  Ahlam Tamimi, described in inappropriately benign terms here and in Ehrenreich's celebration of the murderous culture of the denizens of Nabi Saleh, is the engineer of the massacre at Jerusalem's Sbarro pizzeria. She planned it, chose the site, delivered the bomb to the location, and repeatedly - since being set free in the Shalit deal of 2011 - celebrates (in the Arabic-language media) what she says it stands for. Ehrenreich ought to say why this still-young woman is a figure of adulation among the members of the Tamimi clan in Nabi Saleh: not despite the murders she executed but explicitly because of them.

Nabi Saleh, setting aside the poetry and the pretentious, cultural allusions, has a rich tradition of anti-Jew murder. Failing to put this in the center of the review of Ehrenreich's agitprop is to be complicit in the incitement emanating from that wretched village daily.

 

[ML Dog]

 

[HamGlaze]

 

[ML Dog]

BRILLIANCE. ^^^^


Some people are very clever with the Memes. This among the very best I've ever seen