Shooting in San Bernardino Kills at Least 14; Two Suspects Dead

[vitterd]

ccording to a 2013 Pew Research study, 37 percent of households had an adult who owned a gun — 24 percent said they owned a gun, and 13 percent said someone else in their household did.

There are about 319 million people in the United States, so that means there are about 118 million gun owners in this nation.

The “Mass Shooting Tracker” counts any incident where four or more people are shot, whether fatally or not, as a mass shooting. For 2015 so far, this tracker counts 294 incidents — of those, there are names for only 45 of the shooters, which leads me to believe the others are gang or crime related. But let’s assume for a moment all 294 shooters were actually law-abiding, legal gun owners.

That means, out of 118 million gun owners, 249 or .00025 percent of the gun-owning population are potential mass shooters.

Of course, now the gun control activists are out in force. Any person who legally owns a gun must be a certified nut bag.

It is a sad truth that there are likely more mentally ill individuals in our nation who will one day get their hands on guns, legally or illegally, and take the lives of some innocent souls.

But some perspective is needed.

According to the Mass Shooting Tracker, 375 individuals have been killed during a mass shooting in 2015.

Now compare that number to 10,076. According to MADD, that’s the number of people killed during drunk driving crashes in 2013 alone. In fact, every day in America, another 28 people die in drunk driving crashes. Every. Single. Day.

Using the liberal logic of banning guns because of tragic (and thankfully, comparatively rare) mass shootings undertaken by crazy white folks (and some not so white), should we not then ban cars?

Cars clearly cause many more fatalities in terms of numbers each day than whack nuts with a gun.

Heck, we should ban bathtubs too. Because 341 people die from drowning and submersion while in or falling into bathtubs. And floors. We need to ban floors too, because 565 people die each year from slipping, tripping or falling.

I don’t mean to be flippant, or to trivialize this terrible tragedy. But as the stories fly around in the next few days regarding this event, you can be darn tootin’ liberals will begin pushing their agendas.

It’s useful to have some facts at your fingertips to provide some perspective – because you’ll never get that from the mainstream media.

You lose the argument when you go to things like bathtub deaths. 340 to how many gun deaths last year? It's a silly argument and detracts from your valid points.

 

[SheriffJoe]

"I don't need to research!"

"The math didn't work for me!"

"Made up quotes!"

Our resident idiot masochist just loves taking it up the ass whenever he posts!

 

[NFLTrends]

You lose the argument when you go to things like bathtub deaths. 340 to how many gun deaths last year? It's a silly argument and detracts from your valid points.

Just saying, that there are things far more dangerous then LEGAL gun ownership. AND, a lot of the facts are skewed when they count SINGLE gun deaths, as they count "Suicides" in that count.

But, 1 person shooting another WITH a legal gun they own in the commission of MURDER is rare.

BUT, people with Illegal guns committing murder with them is all the rage in the inner cities.

Any odds or take a wager with me on this? That there are more murders committed with guns by people who have them illegally, then by those who legally own their gun and commit murder with them?

 

[Dave007inVegas]

"I don't need to research!"

"The math didn't work for me!"

"Made up quotes!"

Our resident idiot masochist just loves taking it up the ass whenever he posts!

He posts just for the sake of postings. 99% of the time it’s the same old redundant regurgitation.


The other 1% is just stupid.


And alas, as we all know you can’t fix stupid.

3,2,1

 

[Acebb]

Those repubs are great at thoughts and prayers. That's about it.

California has toughest gun control laws in country, study finds


Again, you are so fucking dumb it is surreal.

 

[vitterd]

He posts just for the sake of postings. 99% of the time it’s the same old redundant regurgitation.


The other 1% is just stupid.


And alas, as we all know you can’t fix stupid.

3,2,1

Only dumb fuck Dave can call me redundant while replying to sheriff Joe posting the same thing on 2 straight pages. Downright scary stupid.

 

[vitterd]

Just saying, that there are things far more dangerous then LEGAL gun ownership. AND, a lot of the facts are skewed when they count SINGLE gun deaths, as they count "Suicides" in that count.

But, 1 person shooting another WITH a legal gun they own in the commission of MURDER is rare.

BUT, people with Illegal guns committing murder with them is all the rage in the inner cities.

Any odds or take a wager with me on this? That there are more murders committed with guns by people who have them illegally, then by those who legally own their gun and commit murder with them?

You keep asking the same question.....I already know the stats. Not sure why you want to wager on something that we both know the answer to.

 

[NFLTrends]

You keep asking the same question.....I already know the stats. Not sure why you want to wager on something that we both know the answer to.

Cause you keep saying right wingers are a menace and dangerous to American Society.....

 

[snoop]

Muslim & Gun = Recipe for a disaster.

 

[superbeets]

Muslim & Gun = Recipe for a disaster.

Female Genital Mutilation + Honor killings + Arranged Marriage + Child brides + Beheadings + Stonings + Martydom + Shrari Law = Recipe for disaster


ISLAM = Recipe for disaster.

 

[superbeets]

Nicholas Thalasinos (pictured right), a Messianic Jew who was identified today as one of the victims of Wednesday’s rampage

 

[roadreeler57]

 

[superbeets]

Syria conflict: German MPs vote for anti-IS military mission

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The German frigate Sachsen is expected to be sent to support the French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle

 

[superbeets]

ISIS sniper team silenced by direct hit from a single Paveway bomb: RAF takes out terrorists firing on Iraqi troops near Ramadi as 150 British troops fly out to wage war in Syria

 

[superbeets]

" She was never involved in shooting"
" She was about 90 pounds"
"Its unlikely she could even carry a weapon, or wear some type of vest "


hno:

 

[superbeets]

"Handcuffed lying face down, shot up ,there are just a lot of things that don't make sense."


"Or do any of this"

"They did not have the military skills to carry out something like this "


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[Dave007inVegas]

The day after a horrific shooting spree by a "radicalized" Muslim man and his partner in San Bernardino, California, Attorney General Loretta Lynch pledged to a group of Muslim activists that she would take aggressive action against anyone who used "anti-Muslim rhetoric" that "edges toward violence."


It is painfully clear that, like her predecessor Eric Holder, Lynch is far more concerned with promoting the social justice agenda than protecting the Constitutional rights of American citizens. What exactly is speech that "edges toward violence"? What exactly are "actions predicated on violent talk"? In the end, it is whatever she decides it to mean.


Loretta Lynch, at a press conference yesterday, termed the San Bernardino shootings a "wonderful opportunity" to change the nature of police work.

"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste."


http://www.dailywire.com/news/1593/loretta-lynch-vows-prosecute-those-who-use-anti-james-barrett

 

[Samhain]

I live about 30 miles from San Bernardino.
The amount of ammunition and materials to make bombs and other explosive devices was not meant to kill these 14 people.
Syed and others had bigger intentions.
Rose Parade?
Rose Bowl?
Super Bowl?
Who knows, but this incident was a side track.

 

[Dave007inVegas]

I live about 30 miles from San Bernardino.
The amount of ammunition and materials to make bombs and other explosive devices was not meant to kill these 14 people.
Syed and others had bigger intentions.
Rose Parade?
Rose Bowl?
Super Bowl?
Who knows, but this incident was a side track.

This is not over by a long shot. It’s not a matter of if but a matter of when and where.


I always thought Vegas would be high on the terrorists list.


Infidels from around the world gather here. What better place for equal opportunity killing.


There will be an estimated 330,000 people coming here to celebrate the new year. So if one were to speculate, that would be a perfect time to strike.


We shall see.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Damn! That chick is hot! -- vtard