Let me set the "real" Fraser story straight... You remember when we got the group for the doctors? Now he was not a part of that but saw all of us losing our money, and felt bad. He contacted a couple of us and gave us his plays, and didnt ask for any money He did not use theservicekings site, in which this other fraser has been using. Honestly the real Fraser has never asked me for anything. The guy is a good dude. As for Cohen, yes it was him (obviously), but he had him to just have some fun, not too get ahead. I have talked to him after this whole deal, and he really does deserve to come back, thier are 2 Fraser's, one is good and the other is not.. The real guy never asked for money
I have made more money being with Fraser than anytime else in my gambling. I feel like im getting a good deal, baseball he did not charge me and football seems reasonable. Why should he not get something for organizing all of this, and showing you the winners? His information is beyond anyone ive met here, so if hes making money off of this, I could care less because so am I!!!!!!
Listen, I have seen the plays that Fraser gets and emails out to his "group". The only plays that aren't really posted here anymore are the plays from the Mike Neri's YouWinNow site. But the truth is, those plays were always posted here before this group got started. So we were getting all the plays that Fraser sends out, and no one was making a profit off of posting them. They were posting them for the good of the group. Fred Wills was posted todayMike Lineback was posted todayRainbow Winners has been posted pretty oftenIt just leaves the YWN guys, and if you go back a while, they were posted quite often until this group was formed!
I'm not going to go back and forth with you I have no issues with you, but I came in here to defend Wil as his name was thrown around as if he didn't know what he was doing and that's just not the case.
My only point is this, I don't care if he makes you millions thats great and that's not my business, but if this took place...
Pm's that say if you want that service you requested send me the money and I'll send you the plays. If this happened then this is a big no no at the rx. But I'm not saying it happened I don't know.
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I can only speak from personal experience but all of my dealings with him have been via email.
I pm'ed him once and he gave me his email because he didn't want to talk via PM. All other arrangements were made via personal email.
To the best of my knowledge that is not against the RX rules.
I cannot speak for anyone else. However, the above is my personal experience. I deal with the guy on a daily basis and he is good in my book.
I do remember weeks back in the Kelso Sturgeon thread that Fraser411 had posted saying that some of the posts with his name on them were not his.
Did he send you plays today? let me know if he keeps sending em to you this week.
Theservicekings and toutthecapper.. cut him off so he probably won't be RE-selling their plays anymore.. Lol I knew that guy was a scammer.. Both those sites are cheap I subscribe to both of them. i dont know why people dont just go there instead of paying some random shady guy on a forum
I am not in this forum daily. I pop in and out from time to time when im looking for one guy's play for that day.
What i can say is that anytime I asked a question or asked for someone's play, Fraser411 was the first person to PM saying he can get me the play or plays, but id have to send him some $$$$.
I dont want to pay for them, if I wanted to pay for them, id go to their website and buy the picks.
Last night I asked for WILLS POD. Fraser411 immediately PM's me (unwarranted mind you) and says, "Freddy has hit 7 of 8.
Pay me a little and you can get them for the rest of the season."
Im sorry, thats bullshit and I dont appreciate it. Dont PM me trying to get $$$ out of me when I simply ask for a play- thats bullshit.
Wil feel free to verify the PM Fraser sent me last night at 6:01pm- still in my inbox.
What i can say is that anytime I asked a question or asked for someone's play, Fraser411 was the first person to PM saying he can get me the play or plays, but id have to send him some $$$$.
I dont want to pay for them, if I wanted to pay for them, id go to their website and buy the picks.
Last night I asked for WILLS POD. Fraser411 immediately PM's me (unwarranted mind you) and says, "Freddy has hit 7 of 8.
Pay me a little and you can get them for the rest of the season."
Im sorry, thats bullshit and I dont appreciate it. Dont PM me trying to get $$$ out of me when I simply ask for a play- thats bullshit.
Wil feel free to verify the PM Fraser sent me last night at 6:01pm- still in my inbox.
Wil, is it possible that someone hacked into fraser long in?
I am telling you I am with all these people who say good things about the man and there was a post he made saying he did not write the previous post awhile back. I can only get back as far as 7/30 from his information, could you go back just a bit further and see if you can see what I am talking about? In fact someone posted right after his that he should look into changing his password. I cant remember the thread topic. I know you have alot going on but this man should be redeemed if innocent. Its hard to believe that this many people would stick up for 1 guy. It is possible that he is a victum. The post I am refering to would of happened between 7/13 and 7/31 thanks.
I am telling you I am with all these people who say good things about the man and there was a post he made saying he did not write the previous post awhile back. I can only get back as far as 7/30 from his information, could you go back just a bit further and see if you can see what I am talking about? In fact someone posted right after his that he should look into changing his password. I cant remember the thread topic. I know you have alot going on but this man should be redeemed if innocent. Its hard to believe that this many people would stick up for 1 guy. It is possible that he is a victum. The post I am refering to would of happened between 7/13 and 7/31 thanks.
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