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he did the right thing getting out after a move like that.

50% overnight annualized is an off-the-chart annualized return.

doesnt take too many trades like that to get rich.

nice job, but i like to swing too large a bat to make overnight trades like that.

im happy with the 2-3% i made today legging in and out a couple times.

not a big fan of holding trading positions going into earnings reports either.

h26, ill be around tomorrow morning and probably another bidu trade.

heading to happy hour now.

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Great day today! But it still only gets us longs back to last Wednesday's close. Still it's a nice bounce. Fear and greed are really moving everything all over the map right now. These conditions are not for the faint of heart.
 

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yeah he took half off the table at 4.65 and rest at 5.34

he's a better trader than me

as for the stock action reminds me of 2000-2001
 

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anyone have a guess when nasdaq make new all time high?

tiznow, you are too quiet here tonight. will nasdaq make new all time high this decade?

it only has to rise about 90% from here to make it.



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Jdog, I just requested a mod send you my email, but im logged in at aol instant messenger now.

AOL IM username is dawoofdaddy.

Too many touts and spammers lurking at these forums to post email.

I totally agree about uraguay. All the government thieves and mobsters from both argentina and brazil hide their money there. uraguay very similar situation to singapore, but in south america instead of asia.
 

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This chart says it all: Unless earnings start contracting or interest rates start increasing big time, the market is in good shape. The P/E of the S&P 500 right now is around 15 and earnings are growing for the index. Notice in the Early 80's how the P/E was around 8. This makes sense because why in the world would people invest in stocks when they could go to their local bank and get 12% cds or treasurey bonds and not have the risk of equites. The stock market will trade on current and future earnings ultimitely and the rest is just a footnote. However, if earnings start to contract, then the stock market will go down with it. I don't see that happening in 08 but I could be wrong.










Here are annual C/D interest rates you could get at a bank those years which further tells the story:



1979, 11.42
1980, 12.94
1981, 15.79
1982, 12.57
1983, 9.28
1984, 10.71
1985, 8.24
1986, 6.50
1987, 7.01
1988, 7.91
1989, 9.08
1990, 8.17
1991, 5.91
1992, 3.76
1993, 3.28
1994, 4.96
1995, 5.98
1996, 5.47
1997, 5.73
1998, 5.44
1999, 5.46
2000, 6.59
2001, 3.66
2002, 1.81
 

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casey is saying this is it....this is the real thing

I respect the guy, but I'm on the opposite side of that trade, although most of my stuff is foreign anyways, but I tightened up all the stops

hoping for that santa claus rally to start on DEC 11....da boys be looking for those fat bonuses

be intersting to see how far they are able to take down commodoties, that will be the key....canroys just getting destroyed
 

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From the article, I can think of a couple more things Id like to see added to this quotient.

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Verdana]It is to be called the Elegance Quotient (or EQ, for the cognoscenti). Very simply, the EQ will be calculated by taking the elegance factor of the place (somewhat subjective, to be sure) and dividing it by a weighted average basket of the goods and services that you most enjoy.
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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Verdana]So, naturally London and Paris, Barcelona, Singapore, Shanghai, San Tropez and Hong Kong will all have impressive numerators, but they will also have depressing denominators… namely the high cost of pretty much everything.
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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Verdana]My basket will include a bottle of good wine, a custom suit, a steak dinner, a gym membership, a cross-town taxi ride, a night in a five-star hotel, a hand-rolled cigar and a maid’s monthly salary.

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BTW:


With the current S&P 500 p/e around 15, I'm merely stating that I think U.S. stocks represent a good buy right now in time. I'm not saying that more money can't be made elsewhere like gold, oil, shorting Google, Brazil, Euros, China, India, or whatever else you guys are investing in. We can all win in this game of investing.
 

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hoping for that santa claus rally to start on DEC 11....da boys be looking for those fat bonuses

be intersting to see how far they are able to take down commodoties, that will be the key....canroys just getting destroyed

The last thing the govt and wall st wants is the market to tank during holiday spending season.

They tell plenty of lies during the year, but with high gas prices and real estate falling, now that its time for people to buy christmas gifts, folks just aint gonna spend much unless we have a market rally or at least the perception of it happening.

Im as bearish about overall economy as anyone, but I realize the market is rigged and they can push it around short/intermediate term if they print enough money.

They arent going to give up the game without a fight and the past 5 years there has been more intervention than ever before in our financial markets. They know if the market tanks again like it did 2001-2002 (even spring 2003), the entire financial system could, and probably would come unglued.

Also, since the market is a discounting mechanism, its possible it can rise during a bad economy and fall during a prosperous one.

If they print alot of money and give it on the cheap to their buddies at these big banks they are going to keep stocks bloated with it, then commodities arent going to fall much.

Alot of the hot stocks in various sectors cratered monday, and most of them only got back to fridays close during tuesday big up day, so this market is still wobbly.

My long term positions are still various commodity based stocks...im sticking with that long term bull market no matter what it does short/intermediate term. Commodities will outperform the s&p regardless what it does for several more years.

However, trading is a different game, and while I like shorting stocks, Im not going to sit here and watch stocks go higher everyday without buying something. I had to plug my nose to get long tuesday, but I did finally buy and it was a pretty good trade.

Its rare for me to have absolutely no idea what side im going to be on the following day (I never 100% know nor do I want to be that biased), but I do have a revolving list of stocks that I am closely watching.

Tomorrow, if it looks like they are determined to put the santa claus rally into high gear, Im going to buy something. If the market leaders are lagging, most likely Ill be short something.
 

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asian's definitley creaming themselves tonight

oil only 90 now!! indians to the moon

we entering a bear market folks, volitility going through the roof, we'll see if i'm wrong in a year or so i suppose
 

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if they are able to take oil back down into the mid-70's that will be like pouring gasoline on any late/early 2008 US stock market rally


they've been able to get the price down last three years (alot is just traders playing the seasons) . If they are able to get some help from other CB's - which is starting to already happen, the dollar may short term rally and that will add to the decline in the oil price, and more fire to the market



Pretty sure we see $125 oil within the next 18 months though. Any major shock in the system $150. it's a supply issue, and the shit is running out
 

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shit ain't running out at those prices

canadian's and the oil sands can roll shit out nonstop

sitting on more oil than the entire middle east at those prices

plus us and the tar sands would get involved quite a bit way up there

peak oil a huge myth....peak CHEAP oil okay maybe
 

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can't get over those canadian royal energy trusts.... just screaming buys right now. love me some 15% dividend

I can say that a guy that runs a manged commodity account for me sold oil last month, so I think alot of it is even the oil guys have rotated out of the sector until late winter, that and some margin selling.
 

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wow. that's a huge statment.

I can see why our overall views are different

btw -I hope you are right. Would be a catastrphe if true

we got plenty of oil

obviously oil sands pollution wise/processing wise sucks balls in comparison...but...its there

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The Oil Sands Of Alberta

Where Black Gold And Riches Can Be Found In The Sand

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June 25, 2006



(CBS) <!-- sphereit start -->This story originally aired on Jan. 22, 2006.

There’s an oil boom going on right now. Not in Saudi Arabia or Kuwait or any of those places, but 600 miles north of Montana.

In Alberta, Canada, in a town called Fort McMurray where, in the dead of winter, the temperature sometimes zooms up to zero.

The oilmen up there aren’t digging holes in the sand and hoping for a spout. They’re digging up dirt — dirt that is saturated with oil. They’re called oil sands, and if you’ve never heard of them then you’re in for a big surprise because the reserves are so vast in the province of Alberta that they will help solve America’s energy needs for the next century.

Within a few years, the oil sands are likely to become more important to the United States than all the oil that comes to us from Saudi Arabia.




Twenty-four hours a day, 365 days a year, vehicles that look like prehistoric beasts move across an arctic wasteland, extracting the oil sands. There is so much to scoop, so much money to be made.

There are 175 billion barrels of proven oil reserves here. That’s second to Saudi Arabia’s 260 billion but it’s only what companies can get with today’s technology. The estimate of how many more barrels of oil are buried deeper underground is staggering.

"We know there’s much, much more there. The total estimates could be two trillion or even higher," says Clive Mather, Shell's Canada chief. "This is a very, very big resource."

Very big? That’s eight times the amount of reserves in Saudi Arabia. The oil sands are buried under forests in Alberta that are the size of Florida. The oil here doesn’t come gushing out of the sand the way it does in the Middle East. The oil is in the sand. It has to be dug up and processed.

Rick George, the Colorado-born CEO of Suncor Energy, took 60 Minutes into his strip mine for a tour. He says the mine will be in operation for about 25 years.

The oil sands look like a very rich, pliable kind of topsoil. Why doesn’t oil come out when squeezed?

"Well, because it’s not warm enough. If you add this to hot water you’ll start the separation process and you’ll see the oil come to the top of the water and you’ll see sand drop to the bottom," George says.

It may look like topsoil but all it grows is money.

It didn’t always. The oil sands have been in the ground for millions of years, but for decades, prospectors lost millions of dollars trying to squeeze the oil out of the sand. It simply cost too much.

T. Boone Pickens, a legendary Texas oil tycoon, was working Alberta’s traditional oil rigs back in the '60s and remembers how he and his colleagues thought mining for oil sands was a joke.

"Here we are sitting there having a drink after work and somebody said this isn’t going to, it isn’t possible. It’ll all have to be subsidized to a level, said, before they’d make money you’d have to have $5 oil," Pickens says laughing. "We never thought it would happen."

But then $40 a barrel happened and the oil sands not only made sense, they made billions for the people digging them. But it wasn’t just the price of oil that changed the landscape, it was the toys. That’s what they call the giant trucks and shovels that roam the mines.

Everything about the oil industry has always been big. It’s characterized by bigness, from the pumps to the personalities. But up here in Alberta, it’s frankly ridiculous. The mine operates the world's biggest truck. It’s three stories high and costs $5 million. It carries a load of 400 tons of oil sands, which means, at today’s oil prices, each load is worth $10,000 dollars.

What it’s like to drive one of these monsters? At the foot of a tire, we asked the driver, Jim Locke.

"You have 14 steps going up, and at my house you have 14 steps to the bedroom. So it’s like going upstairs in my house, sitting on my bed and driving the house downtown," says Locke.

But getting downtown is just the beginning. The oil sands then go into a plant. They’re heated in a cell, which separates the oil from the sand. The result looks like something out of Willy Wonka’s chocolate factory. This oil froth is then sent to an upgrader and eventually to a refinery.

Asked if the processed oil is as good as that pumped in Saudi Arabia, Mather says, "Absolutely as good as. In fact, it even trades as a, at a premium because it’s high quality crude oil."




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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/01/20/60minutes/main1225184.shtml
 

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tiz not saying you are wrong or do not know what you are talking about, but I consider myself extremely informed on the subject. I've done perhaps 200-300 hours research

there is no way you can listen objectively to what the likes of Matt Simmons, Boone Picketts, Jim Puplava, Dr Hubble each has to say and think it is not true. I believe it to be as the basis for the Iraq war
 

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