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Bottom line is that the past 5-10 years the economy was driven by the housing bubble.

Now that the housing bubble has ended and the home equity loan game has ended, the economy and job market are going to dampen.
 

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I'll up my initial forecast weeks ago of 14,500 by the end of January. I now think 15,500 is a distinct possibility. Cheap money has to go somewhere. The dollar creates asset inflation across the board and if it continues to weaken and the FED continues to cut, this is a lock. I hear all the time that there are "too many shorts in the dollar so it can't go down any further." I heard that at 1.30, 1.35 and 1.40 and it doesn't make a difference. Housing stocks continue to shit the bed even though they have short interest. Countries are quietly selling them I believe. Keep it a slow death...But the Bulls should be happy. If you have savings of any kind, enjoy losing money on a continual basis.
 

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I'll up my initial forecast weeks ago of 14,500 by the end of January. I now think 15,500 is a distinct possibility. Cheap money has to go somewhere. The dollar creates asset inflation across the board and if it continues to weaken and the FED continues to cut, this is a lock. I hear all the time that there are "too many shorts in the dollar so it can't go down any further." I heard that at 1.30, 1.35 and 1.40 and it doesn't make a difference. Housing stocks continue to shit the bed even though they have short interest. Countries are quietly selling them I believe. Keep it a slow death...But the Bulls should be happy. If you have savings of any kind, enjoy losing money on a continual basis.

all i know is i'm glad i'm not just short the markets in general and in specific areas....homebuilders just continue to get crushed and have a good stake in those short will be holding till near zero probably and a good stash of physical gold.

That said think i may get more agressive on the short side here soon.

we shall see think we are setting ourselves up for a ugly october right around the time of year words such as crash and stuff pop into people's heads. the four horseman (as cramer calls them) just continue to plow forward at comical paces squeezing the bejesus out of shorts...that being goog, amzn, rimm, aapl....wow just look rimm almost 100 now after doing a 2 for 1 split not to long ago...pure insanity
 

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As for why housing stocks continue to fall there is no vested interest to "save" them such as there is with the banking/mortgage sector.....they will allow that market to consolidate on its own with some companies possibly going under before its all said and done and that will be healthy for the overall economy in general. Home building companies going under have little repurcussions to the financial sector which is who is protected when shit gets bad.
 

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Hyperinflation Or Recession?
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Zimbabwe is a country where hyperinflation is a reality as opposed to a theoretical possibility. The photograph below shows what it looks like to pay for lunch for eight people in that country. It was sent to me in an email dated September 18th, 2007. The meal - consisting of fillet steaks and beers - cost six million Zimbabwean dollars. What you are looking at is that amount of money in $1,000 notes being collected by the restaurant manager. I don't know if it included a Z$600,000 tip or not. The restaurant has no menu. Patrons wanting to eat are not offered a choice. They ask "what's left?" Still, they are able to smile. Such is the indomitability of the human spirit.

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Of course, the above is an extreme case. However, the chart below - courtesy Decisionpoint.com - shows that hyperinflation is a real possibility within the USA if the Fed screws up big time. If the lower curved trendline prevails, and the boundary of the upper trendline is penetrated to the upside, the Dow may very well enter an exponential blow-off. If the above photograph is anything to go by, we absolutely do not want that to happen.

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Theoretically, the role of the United States Federal Reserve Board is to balance employment against inflation using money supply, bank lending ratios and interest rates as their weapons. Historically, the target has been less than 5% unemployment rate (of those looking for work) and less than 3% inflation (given a target 3% p.a. growth rate in money supply which should be partially offset by population growth rate). That's roughly how it's supposed to work. Of late, the money supply has been growing at around 15% because the economy has been slowing.
On top of this growth in money supply, the Fed's recent decision to cut its bank lending rate has connotations which demand to be assessed.
Since the 1980s, this analyst has been well served by the mental model that the very raison d'etre of the world's Central Banks is as has been described above. Theoretically, given the weakness of the US Dollar, the Fed should have raised its lending rate. This would have served to protect the US Dollar and, thereby, the US economy in the medium to longer term. However, in light of the number of mortgage refinancing contracts in the pipeline, and the sub-prime mortgage debacle, raising the rate was not an option. Given the available facts, this analyst was of the view that the safest course of action would have been to do nothing. But the Fed cut its rate. This disconnect in logic now demands that I reassess my mental model.
The base assumption of the Central Bank model is that the Central Bank exists to manage the pace of underlying economic activity in the interests of the entire community.
There has been significant discussion on the gold related websites as to whether or not - given the closing of the gold window by Richard Nixon in 1971 - hyperinflation was an inevitability.
To refresh readers' memories, I have reproduced the relevant element of Article1, Section 8 of the US Constitution:
"Section 8 - Powers of Congress
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;" (my italics)
It is my understanding that the underlying rationale of those who drafted the US Constitution was that "money supply" should be controlled by the Congress of the United States (as opposed to Private Enterprise). The coining of money (i.e. the reliance of silver and gold standard) was incidental to this overriding principle. That is why counterfeiting was to be regarded as a punishable offence.
It has been argued by some, including this analyst, that the act of creating the US Fed hijacked the intention, originally espoused by Thomas Jefferson, that Congress should manage the money supply. There is no purpose to be served in rehashing the arguments here, but the bottom line conclusion is that the structure of the US Federal Reserve has inherent conflicts of interest between Government (supposedly representing the people of the USA) and Private Enterprise, whose parochial interests are now arguably being served by the Fed.
Arguably, the decision of the US Federal Reserve to lower its bank lending rate, announced on September 18th 2007, is prima facie evidence that the short term interests of Private Enterprise have superceded the longer term interests of US citizens in general.
Shortly after the Fed's announcement, it was made public that the Producer Price Index had fallen. This, at face value, might have been the society wide justification for the cut in interest rates.
However, such an argument is nonsensical. To demonstrate this, it seems appropriate to lead the reader through a case study.
As regular readers know, I have recently completed a novel which is intended for world-wide publication within the next six to nine months following editing. When I commenced drafting the manuscript in October 2005, the target retail price of the novel, Beyond Neanderthal, was to be US$25 plus postage. The rate of exchange between the US$ and the Australian Dollar at that time was around US$0.75:A$1. This implied that Beyond Neanderthal would retail at around A$33.50 a copy in Australia.
As the author, I am now facing a dilemma. Costs of printing and binding have risen, whilst the exchage rate as at today's date is US$0.869:A$1. i.e. If I keep the price constant at US$25, I will have to charge A$28.65 (approximately 15% less in the face of higher production costs). Alternatively, if I keep the price constant at A$33.50, I will have to charge US$29 a copy in the USA. The price within the USA will have risen 16%.
It doesn't end there. If we look at the Point and Figure Chart of the US Dollar Index below (courtesy Stockcharts.com) we see that a target of 76 is being called for

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This implies that Beyond Neanderthal will need to be priced at US$29 X (78.6/76) = US$30 plus postage.
We could go on, but you get the drift. In a world that was previously dominated by the US Dollar in international trade, everything was benchmarked against the US Dollar. No longer!
What we are now facing is a world where - because of a single irresponsible decision of the United States Federal Reserve Board - the US Dollar has broken to historical lows, and the centre of gravity of the world's economy has shifted away from the United States.
For the purposes of international trade and commerce this is an extremely important point. As an Australian citizen, I can no longer afford to think in terms of pricing my novel using the US$ as the benchmark. Now take my case, and apply it to:
  • The oil industry
  • Consumer exports to the USA
  • International capital movements
There are those who are excited about the fact that the gold price has broken up to new heights in US$ denominated terms. Typically, those people will be living within the USA.
However, when you look at the gold price from the perspective of a non-US citizen, you see a chart that looks something like the goldollar chart below (courtesy decisionpoint.com)

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What it shows is that the goldollar index has not yet risen to a new high. i.e. The gold price has been rising in US Dollars primarily to compensate for the fall in the US Dollar.
i.e. Gold has been rising in price to protect US citizens but not yet non US Citizens.
This brings us to the ratio of the Gold Share Index to the Gold Price. The chart below is courtesy of stockcharts.com
This chart shows that, as at September 20th 2007, the gold shares were still in a bear trend relative to the gold price.

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Frankly, I am personally being guided by the chart below - which is a 3% X 3 box reversal chart of the US$ denominated gold price (courtesy stockcharts.com)

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Having broken to a new high, I can now believe the $1400 price target and, as a result of this believability, I have bought back into some gold shares. The "cost" to me of doing this was a loss of 7% profit, including brokerage.
Having said this, now let's look at the downside again. If the Gold Price in US$ doubles, and the US Dollar Index halves, it is likely that I will have made a mistake - because the costs of operating a gold mine (in the USA) will rise in proportion to the price the mine receives. i.e. Profits will not rise in proportion to the rise in the gold price.
What seems more likely to happen, though, flows from the discussion on the pricing of Beyond Neanderthal. At a price of US$30 a copy I am likely to sell fewer copies within the USA than if I charged US$25. Indeed, the volume of gold sales might even fall - because (for example) Indians may buy less gold to celebrate their weddings if they are selling fewer services to the USA. Take the argument across the entirety of the world economy and, what we seem to be facing is the threat of a world-wide recession as the volume of commercial transactions by foreigners with the USA shrinks.
Conclusion
The decision by the US Fed to reduce its bank lending rate - ostensibly to counteract a reduction in the producer price index - was probably a seminal development in the history of the world's economy. If the end result is that this rate reduction gives rise to a continuing fall of the US Dollar index, then inflation within the USA will likely rise strongly, and volumes of transactions will likely fall.
Paradoxically, the cut in interest rates seems likely to have the opposite effect of its stated intent. It seems more likely to give rise to an acceleration of the arrival of recessionary conditions - having bought sufficient time to allow maintenance of the status quo until after the US Presidential Elections.
Sadly, we are living in an extraordinarily cynical world where the parochial interests of the few now patently transcend the interests of the many.

Brian Bloom
September 24th 2007
www.beyondneanderthal.com
Since 1987, when Brian Bloom became involved in the Venture Capital Industry, he has been constantly on the lookout for alternative energy technologies to replace fossil fuels. He has recently completed the manuscript of a novel entitled Beyond Neanderthal which he is targeting to publish within six to nine months. The novel has been drafted on three levels: As a vehicle for communication it tells the light hearted, romantic story of four heroes in search of alternative energy technologies which can fully replace Neanderthal Fire. On that level, its storyline and language have been crafted to be understood and enjoyed by everyone with a high school education. The second level of the novel explores the intricacies of the processes involved and stimulates thinking about their development. None of the three new energy technologies which it introduces is yet on commercial radar. Gold, the element, (Au) will power one of them. On the third level, it examines why these technologies have not yet been commercialised. The answer: We've got our priorities wrong.
Beyond Neanderthal also provides a roughly quantified strategic plan to commercialise at least two of these technologies within a decade - across the planet. In context of our incorrect priorities, this cannot be achieved by Private Enterprise. Tragically, Governments will not act unless there is pressure from voters. It is therefore necessary to generate a juggernaut tidal wave of that pressure. The cost will be 'peppercorn' relative to what is being currently considered by some Governments. Together, these three technologies have the power to lift humanity to a new level of evolution. Within a decade, Carbon emissions will plummet but, as you will discover, they are an irrelevancy. Please register your interest to acquire a copy of this novel at www.beyondneanderthal.com . Please also inform all your friends and associates. The more people who read the novel, the greater will be the pressure for Governments to act.

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Anyone else find the humor regarding the "buffet may possibly take a stake" in such and such company rumors that are continuously told by tv pundits?

It was put out there yesterday regarding Bear Stearns.

Yet another strong day for gold and other commodities.

The choppers are working overtime this year dumping as many dollars as possible around the globe.
 

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8.3% drop yoy and 7 year low in new home sales with home builders slashing prices like mad trying to get rid of inventory.....hmmm...i think i'll hold on those home builder shorts a little while longer...

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New-Home Sales Tumble to 7-Year Low
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- New-homes sales tumbled in August to the lowest level in seven years, a stark sign that the credit crunch is aggravating an already painful housing slump.

Sales of new homes dropped by 8.3 percent in August from July, the Commerce Department reported Thursday, driving down sales to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 795,000 units. That was the lowest level since June 2000, when sales clocked in at a pace of 793,000.
 

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lets see if this guy is right on thursday this coming week

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This week provides an instructive opportunity to observe this in real time. On Thursday, September 27th, an unusually large $24 billion amount of repurchase agreements will come due, leaving only about $7 billion of repos outstanding. It should come as no surprise, then, that the Federal Reserve will most likely enter into a seemingly enormous $24 billion or so in new repurchase agreements by Thursday afternoon. This will undoubtedly be reported with great fanfare, and will be interpreted as a “massive injection of reserves into the banking system” by the Federal Reserve, as if these funds are new liquidity. This interpretation will be utterly incorrect. It will be nothing but a rollover of existing repurchase agreements that the Fed routinely enters into in order to maintain a stable amount of reserves in the banking system.

That said, if investors are naïve enough (and last week's exuberance gives every indication that they are), they may very well rally the market on this meaningless and entirely predictable “injection of liquidity” by the Fed. Though we wouldn't speculate on that outcome, it will be interesting to see how Wall Street interprets this rollover.

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Media's interpretation of the fed movement hussman predicted

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Fed adds total $38 bln reserves via repos on Thurs
Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:18am EDT

NEW YORK, Sept 27 (Reuters) - The U.S. Federal Reserve said on Thursday it added a total of $38 billion of temporary reserves to the banking system through four separate repurchase agreements.

The total amount matched $38 billion of repurchase operations on Aug. 10, which is loosely seen as the beginning of a crunch in the credit markets, when companies began to have difficulty accessing lines of credit due to problems that began in the subprime mortgage market.

But some analysts said Thursday's action by the Fed may not have entirely been an effort to re-ignite liquidity in credit markets, but may have more to do with making cash available to meet quarter-end needs, when hedge funds and other financial operations square their books.

"They want to make sure things run and flow smoothly over the quarter end -- it's not only happening in this country but it's happening in Europe as well," said Jeff Hlavacek, director of fixed income trading at BNP Paribas in New York.

Previous to Aug. 10, the largest amount of repurchase operations in a single day was on Sept 19, 2001, when the Fed undertook $50.35 billion of repurchase agreements.

Thursday's operations included $6 billion of 14-day repurchase agreements, $20 billion of 7-day repurchase agreements, $7 billion of 4-day repurchase agreements and $5 billion of overnight repurchase agreements.

The 7-day repurchase on Thursday was the largest single such operation since Aug. 15, 2003, when the Fed also added $20 billion in a single, 3-day repurchase agreement, a Fed spokesman said.

The last time the Fed undertook four repurchase agreements in a single day was also on Sept. 19, 2001.

Federal funds, the benchmark overnight lending rate to banks, last traded on the open market at 5.00 percent, above the Fed's targeted rate of 4.75 percent. Fed funds traded on the open market at 5.063 percent early on Thursday morning ahead of and during the Fed operations. (Additional reporting by Burton Frierson)
 

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The strong Canadian dollar has hit the illegal marijuana sector just as it has other industries that export to the United States, one of Canada's best known legalization advocates said on Thursday.
But western marijuana growers have also benefited from Canada's strong economy, especially the booming Alberta oil patch, which has increased domestic consumption, according to Marc Emery, a founder of the British Columbia Marijuana Party.
The Canadian dollar touched parity with the U.S. dollar last week, topping a rise of some 60 percent over the past five years. On Thursday, it was still hovering around par, at C$1.0014 to the U.S. dollar or 99.86 U.S. cents.
A stronger loonie -- so called for the bird engraved on the one dollar coin -- has cut the profit of selling potent "B.C. Bud" marijuana in U.S. markets at a time when producers in Canada struggle with tighter border security and competition in the United States with pot from other sources.
Top quality Canadian pot is selling for $3,500 (1,725 pounds) a pound in the United States, compared with C$2,400 (1,180 pounds) in domestic markets, according to Emery, who is also editor of Cannabis Culture magazine and fighting extradition to the United States.
"When you factor in all the risk and transportation, that (higher export price) is not a big deal any more," said Emery, adding that when the Canadian dollar was weak exporters could double their money selling into the United States.
U.S. authorities seized 26,414 kilograms (58,233 pounds) of marijuana in northern border states in 2005 compared with 11,546 kg (25,455 pounds) in 2001, according to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration's latest National Drug Threat Assessment.
A study in 2004 estimated the street value of British Columbia's annual marijuana crop at more than C$7 billion, which would make it one of the western Canadian province's largest industries.
Simon Fraser University economics professor Stephen Easton, who authored the 2004 report, said there has been no specific study of the impact of currency on drug exports but it should be the same as with legal exports.
"Basically, what happened is the cost of producing the stuff went up in U.S. dollar terms," said Easton, who is planning to further investigate the issue.
Emery said Canadian marijuana is also facing price competition in the United States from Mexican-grown pot, which has benefited from a relatively weak peso, as well as increased domestic production in the Western U.S.
The U.S. anti-drug agency said in its 2007 report that large scale cultivation of marijuana by Mexican criminal groups was expanding beyond California and into the Pacific Northwest, and that the potency of the pot available was rising.
"What's happening is that they're producing tons and tons of marijuana this fall. It will considerably add to the U.S. total (supply) and bring their outdoor pot price down," Emery said.
But a healthy Canadian economy has allowed marijuana producers to sell more at home. "They're making a lot of money on those oil rigs, and everywhere Canadians are making decent money they are doing a lot of drugs," Emery said.
Canadians have the highest rate of marijuana use in the industrialized world, according to a United Nation's study released in July.
Emery was arrested in Vancouver in August 2005 at the request of U.S. authorities, who have accused him of breaking U.S. drug laws by illegally exporting marijuana seeds to the United States.
He is fighting extradition and faces a January court hearing.
 

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oil 83.30

gold 734

time to cut rates again i'm sure that'll do the trick, hyperinflation :lolBIG:
 

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time to cut rates again i'm sure that'll do the trick, hyperinflation :lolBIG:

The whole thing is sad. It really is. All this to save a few bankers and hedge funds, and to think you may save housing too? Yuck
 

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Anyone else find the humor regarding the "buffet may possibly take a stake" in such and such company rumors that are continuously told by tv pundits?

It was put out there yesterday regarding Bear Stearns.

Yet another strong day for gold and other commodities.

The choppers are working overtime this year dumping as many dollars as possible around the globe.

dude agree 100% with the WB thing. I'd bet money he knew nothing about it. Or if he did, he actually purchased a few thousand shares setting up for the pump and dump. No way he has any interest in that POS. Not at their stock price.

I made the mistake of selling the last of my paper gold GLD yesterday, going to 100% krugs. It's up big overnight in Asia and I didn't lock in the price.

75% chance we go to war in Iran. gold is due for a pullback, but is sniffing the Iran thing out. Just on a straight bull run right now. To $803 as predicted in January.
 

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Add another 10 spot onto the gold price this morning.


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Tiznow, add the wheat price to that list.

A main food source in the world going through the roof in price (domestic terms).

More than 100% rise past 12 months.
 

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yep. Look at the yield curve guys.

Are you lot stoopid or sumthing ??
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Add another 10 spot onto the gold price this morning.


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Tiznow, add the wheat price to that list.

A main food source in the world going through the roof in price (domestic terms).

More than 100% rise past 12 months.

yeah wheat has alot to do with the major droughts all over the world in heavy wheat producing countries like australia but monetary inflation is playing some role

Dollar just getting smoked 77.81.....gold 744....crude 83.40....if they fed even thinks of cutting again they should be shot.....
 

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if they fed even thinks of cutting again they should be shot.....

why wouldnt they cut again?

all the talk about a strong dollar is exactly that....talk.

the dollar devaluation is part of a deliberate plan to debase the dollar.

the trick is keeping as many people as possible, for as much time as possible aboard the sinking dollar before it collapses.
 

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