sell! sell! sell!

[Willie99]

as you should

I'm not an economic scholar, let me make that perfectly clear. Then again, economics is more of a theory anyways. I am a tax geek.

I'm not here trying to prove that things are not what they appear and suggesting people that disagree with me are either sheep or stupid or some combination thereof. I tend to reserve such name calling to 9/11 theorists and pure haters.

I do have economic opinions, and I provide reasons for such. I find it amusing when people talk about my opinions in mocking fashion, and I'll respond accordingly.

 

[VaultedTreehouse]

The easiest way to see if the market will be up or down is to look at the Yen. Whenever the carry trade is allowed to come back to life, the market just perks up.

 

[VaultedTreehouse]

I'm not an economic scholar, let me make that perfectly clear. Then again, economics is more of a theory anyways. I am a tax geek.

I'm not here trying to prove that things are not what they appear and suggesting people that disagree with me are either sheep or stupid or some combination thereof. I tend to reserve such name calling to 9/11 theorists and pure haters.

I do have economic opinions, and I provide reasons for such. I find it amusing when people talk about my opinions in mocking fashion, and I'll respond accordingly.

Can I get a glimpse of your ideal tax policy?

 

[BASEHEAD]

lol ....Indicators points towards increased growth,FED will cut funds rate in Sept-its almost bear hunting season again.Has to be killing you folks the economy didnt tank and now its pretty obvious to all involved the Fed isnt going to let it happen at any cost.Keep posting the doom and gloom tiznow....even as these undervalued stocks begin to climb again.

Cuss, Buffet wants a piece of CFC-lol.

 

[VaultedTreehouse]

lol ....Indicators points towards increased growth,FED will cut funds rate in Sept-its almost bear hunting season again.Has to be killing you folks the economy didnt tank and now its pretty obvious to all involved the Fed isnt going to let it happen at any cost.Keep posting the doom and gloom tiznow....even as these undervalued stocks begin to climb again.

Cuss, Buffet wants a piece of CFC-lol.

Base, you are funny. You were conspicuously absent when it was 12,6 last week but come out of the woodwork when it turns around...And yes, we all appreciate the continued the "unamerican" bears comments....What makes a market is a divergence of opinions. Without that you have 99 and 2000...And your boy Ben injected some more heroin into the system this morning.

 

[Dawoofdaddy]

Private companies tend to only be interested in how much money they can make next week, whereas governments can take a more long term approach.

I can see government doing a 50/50 arrangement with many people in the not too distant future, especially essential workers, lowering the rate payable and then taking a chunk of the capital gain when the property is realised.
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Eek, govt (politicians) are concerned with remaining in power and growing their own personal influence. To post they are concerned with a more long term approach is a bit confusing. I prefer instead to name it as passing the bill onto the next generation long after they'll be dead and/or out of office.

Again, I dont find socialism being completely negative, but if the United is going to operate in this manner, it should stop talking about itself as having open markets and capitalism.

Laissez faire and caveat emptor definitely should not be equated with American markets.

 

[Willie99]

Can I get a glimpse of your ideal tax policy?

A flat tax with a large standard deduction and increased deductions for family members. Credits for starting & growing a business, health care & retirement savings. No double taxation on corporate profits and wealth accumulation.

It will be progressive, fair & eliminate loopholes.

It would encourage investment.

It would help with two long term issues for every American, health care & retirement.

It will not encourage cheating because of idiotic rates.

Abolish social security as we know it, a failed pyramid scheme. We must provide for people who have no other options at this time, but younger individuals invest in their own retirement plan with their payroll taxes. People will retire wealthy instead of on poverty and they would have an asset to leave to their beneficiaries.

Don't worry, none of the above will ever happen in the current political environment. There are too many sheep. :thumbsup:

 

[BASEHEAD]

Base, you are funny. You were conspicuously absent when it was 12,6 last week but come out of the woodwork when it turns around...And yes, we all appreciate the continued the "unamerican" bears comments....What makes a market is a divergence of opinions. Without that you have 99 and 2000...And your boy Ben injected some more heroin into the system this morning.

Actually I was here the whole time posting while it was dropping..Ive taken most of my "absence" while its been climbing.Go check genius.

Wasnt it you who scolded us for continually bumping this thread with day to day banter regarding the days activity? Yet here you are not only mocking me for following your advice but you are now a guilty party as well hypocrite.

The best part is, everything Ive said would come true more or less has Professor.

 

[cussin'it]

lol ....Indicators points towards increased growth,FED will cut funds rate in Sept-its almost bear hunting season again.Has to be killing you folks the economy didnt tank and now its pretty obvious to all involved the Fed isnt going to let it happen at any cost.Keep posting the doom and gloom tiznow....even as these undervalued stocks begin to climb again.

Cuss, Buffet wants a piece of CFC-lol.

Hay, totally fine losing a bet then watching the shit tank, and people lose their houses.

What I don't favor is the "Fed" or the "Gov't" subsidising poor business practice and dropping gazillions out of the chopper. :nono5:

How bout you give us some "sharp" bargain plays now that the "bears" are in retreat?

Now is the time for dem values, eh?

I'll trade you a golf tip for a stock pick ya farkin hacker.

:toast:

 

[Jointpleasure]

Keep the left hip up high, the grip needs to be pointing somewhere around the left thigh and the spectators in back of ya should see the crease of your left elbow. After that, swing hard.

 

[VaultedTreehouse]

Actually I was here the whole time posting while it was dropping..Ive taken most of my "absence" while its been climbing.Go check genius.

Wasnt it you who scolded us for continually bumping this thread with day to day banter regarding the days activity? Yet here you are not only mocking me for following your advice but you are now a guilty party as well hypocrite.

The best part is, everything Ive said would come true more or less has Professor.

Must be my memory, seem to have missed you. Wonder if you and willie are the same person...Anyway, the thread has turned into a debate on lots of things, much more so than the day to day doings in the market which in the beginning of the thread did seem to be silly...But as it evolved it has become useful. Except for the attacks on those who disagree with the bulls on here which definitely struck a nerve for me...The idea that everyone should march in lock step with the mainstream media seems strange. Yet, if we put out a different view, we are "rooting" against the U.S. and blah blah blah. That's when I got pissed and yet it still seems that's your M.O....Instead of actually coming to the table with something, you gloss over posts like the ones involving inflation adjusted markets and many of Woolf as well. Instead, it is a little dance everytime the market goes up. No value added...At least Willie attempts to put out an argument, as strange as they are...But again, responding to actual data means zero to you. Respond to post #312 with something...Oh wait, I know your response is "its bear hunting season."...In the words of Bill Simmons, "Yup, these are my readers."

 

[cussin'it]

Eek, govt (politicians) are concerned with remaining in power and growing their own personal influence. To post they are concerned with a more long term approach is a bit confusing.

Amen. When folks are more occupied with getting re-elected, the shit that needs attention gets back-burnered.

Totally in favor here of term limits, in fact, extend their term and no re-election bullshit. Get on with the people's business for chrissakes.

 

[Jointpleasure]

I know many liberals would like nothing better than for the stock market to collapse. Class warfare is in their bones, they sweat the beadlets of envy. Would it truely fulfill them though? Would they recover that missing gene they have been without? Of course not. They need the tax payer, they need the investor who pays the taxes on their investments. They may want the nipple to come out of their mouth once they reach twenty years old but not enough do something about it. Eventually they will become to lazy to even steal but until this day they will continue to be nothing much more than a parasite or a leech that even a bullhead wouldn't nibble on.

Guess they'll just have to stick to the usual raising taxes on the rich, increasing capital gains taxes and yanking the pennies off the eyelids of dead people with the death tax.

The Paulestinians are a different story. They are the lost sheep walking through the shadow of death, fearing no evil. The thinkers who constantly try out thinkin' everyone, but in the end the just out think themselves. You put the profile of Duncan Hunter on the nickel and they'll call you a statist, but you put the profile of a hippie on a golden ass and they'll call it good. Unlike the liberal who sees capitalism as the threat for their cradle to grave care system they see America as there blockaid to their own personal contracts with the islamofascists gold and oil. They truly have no understanding of those who take vows to their gods to kill other with a different God. They make up 2/3rds of the human being- the physical and the chemical, they lack the spiritual understanding. Ron Pauls foriegn policy is an example.


All this ranting when really all I wanted to say is I think all the posts here where well intended just to make a little dough.

 

[BASEHEAD]

Must be my memory, seem to have missed you. Wonder if you and willie are the same person...Anyway, the thread has turned into a debate on lots of things, much more so than the day to day doings in the market which in the beginning of the thread did seem to be silly...But as it evolved it has become useful. Except for the attacks on those who disagree with the bulls on here which definitely struck a nerve for me...The idea that everyone should march in lock step with the mainstream media seems strange. Yet, if we put out a different view, we are "rooting" against the U.S. and blah blah blah. That's when I got pissed and yet it still seems that's your M.O....Instead of actually coming to the table with something, you gloss over posts like the ones involving inflation adjusted markets and many of Woolf as well. Instead, it is a little dance everytime the market goes up. No value added...At least Willie attempts to put out an argument, as strange as they are...But again, responding to actual data means zero to you. Respond to post #312 with something...Oh wait, I know your response is "its bear hunting season."...In the words of Bill Simmons, "Yup, these are my readers."

Dont be mad teach,youre not the only one whos occupation requires intricate knowledge of economics.

Im not Willie BTW.

Ive had the inflation discussion in here several times, with Woof Im sure, I beleive so forgive me if my choice of posting doesnt suit you.In fact theres not much we havent covered before, sorry you missed it.The fact is, this was supposed to be the prolonged bear market crash promised by the skeptics.Any of you folks that say you werent going to be happy to see the market totally crash are lying.Me, I like making money on the way up,forgive me.

Cuss far more folks would be fucked if the Fed didnt take its actions (incl the future action of lowering the funds rate).If your so worried about these folks you should be cheering for a strong rebound regardless of its origin.

As far as marching lockstep-look at where the articles are coming from you guys are posting-looks like the MSM to me.In fact much of what I see in the mainstream regarding the "crisis" is hysteria,like you guys are prone to delivering here.

 

[cussin'it]

Cuss far more folks would be fucked if the Fed didnt take its actions (incl the future action of lowering the funds rate).If your so worried about these folks you should be cheering for a strong rebound regardless of its origin.

LOL, and this rebound is gonna change the damage already done? Thousands of jobs lost, and certainly many more foreclosures to come regardless of the market rebound, which I'm definitely rooting for.

It's all good though, as you guys would say. :toast:

Shit that's like telling me a par's a good score when I lip-out for birdie from 2 feet.

:smoking:

 

[Willie99]

Perception cuzz

don't worry, be happy

arty:

 

[cussin'it]

Perception cuzz

don't worry, be happy

arty:

I'm tryin bro, I'm tryin. Took a couple of real gut shots this spring, and rebounding is tough. You'd have to be there to know.

What's good is my family, friends and my gal.

 

[BASEHEAD]

LOL, and this rebound is gonna change the damage already done? Thousands of jobs lost, and certainly many more foreclosures to come regardless of the market rebound, which I'm definitely rooting for.

It's all good though, as you guys would say. :toast:

Shit that's like telling me a par's a good score when I lip-out for birdie from 2 feet.

:smoking:

You sure all these folks had these jobs before the current boom? Its seems to me like a labor union laying folks off after the gravy dries up.Sad fact of supply and demand.

Gamestop : )

 

[Dawoofdaddy]

Tiznow, VT, are you guys around today?

:drink:

 

[VaultedTreehouse]

Tiznow, VT, are you guys around today?

:drink:

Yes Sir. Though I'll be gone for the day shortly. What's up Wolfman