sell! sell! sell!

Search

bet365 player
Joined
Oct 25, 2006
Messages
7,609
Tokens
He is a tough negotiator. Somebody gotta blink. 1.6 billion euro is set to default by tomorrow, it already wiped out half trillion $ paper wealth globally since last night.
 

Member
Joined
Jul 14, 2007
Messages
31,558
Tokens
http://factor-tech.com/green-energy...s-second-attempt-at-historic-120-hour-flight/

This is like the 5th article I've read touting autonomous cars completely changing the world within 15 years. I still think car ownership and driving is an expression of freedom and we won't see widespread autonomous vehicles for awhile but still the potential for displacement through technology over the next 20 years is pretty staggering on many levels.

Could move at a breakneck pace if it proves to be effective.
 

bet365 player
Joined
Oct 25, 2006
Messages
7,609
Tokens
Greece crowdfunding campaign draws more than 500 pledges



Published: June 29, 2015 7:22 p.m. ET
7
1






8





MW-DP058_GreekF_20150629191154_ZH.jpg
Getty Images
A Greek national flag (ADAM BERRY/AFP/Getty Images)
By
TOMBEMIS

EDITOR



While residents of Europe’s functioning economies may be suffering from donor fatigue, an enterprising Londoner remains undaunted.
Thom Feeny has launched a Greek Bailout Fund on Indiegogo.
The fund seeks to raise 1.6 billion euros, the amount Greece owes the IMF for its next interest payment, due Tuesday.

Per his crowdfunding page, Feeny figures the 503 million people in the European Union need only pony up 6 euros each for a Greek Feta and Olive salad to solve the immediate debt crisis.
Those pledging 10 euros qualify for a voucher good for a bottle of ouzo, while those able to donate 25 euros qualify for a bottle of Greek wine.
By late Monday, more than 500 people had pledged a total of more than 8,000 euros, leaving just 1,599,992,000 euros to go.
Global markets are apparently discounting the innovative approach, however. Stocks went into a tailspin Monday in anticipation that Greece will miss the payment.

^
 

Member
Joined
Jul 14, 2007
Messages
31,558
Tokens
if a Pats fan raised a few thousand to help pay a fine for Bob Kraft, a man worth like 3 billion dollars, then anything is possible.
 

bet365 player
Joined
Oct 25, 2006
Messages
7,609
Tokens
There is rumor that US Treasury Lew might step up in and save the day.

Sounds like BS.

Or CNBC is trolling.
 

the bear is back biatches!! printing cancel....
Joined
Mar 31, 2006
Messages
24,692
Tokens
I've grown pretty apathetic to the whole thing at this point .. Just disgusting what we've become

Chinese bubble starting to pop ... Puerto Rico heading to bankruptcy ... Dominos time..

check out the show mr. Robot on USA (only 1 episode so far) basically a me rant .. Pretty hilarious...
 

bushman
Joined
Sep 22, 2004
Messages
14,457
Tokens
Yanis Varoufakis: “Greece Will Adopt the Bitcoin If Eurogroup Doesn’t Give Us a Deal”

While Greece’s lenders are pushing the Greek government to accept their terms in order to allocate funds so the country will not go bankrupt, Greek Finance Minister Yanis Varoufakis seems to have another ace up his sleeve. The second top thinker in the world according to prospect magazine surprised even his closest aides at a secret meeting when he said “We ‘ve had enough, we ‘ll run on Bitcoin.”
Sources very closed to Greece’s minister of finance told Greek Reporter that today Yanis Varoufakis held a top secret meeting with high-ranking finance ministry officials to prepare them in case negotiations at the upcoming Eurogroup fail. The anonymous source noted that everybody in the room was staring at each other when Varoufakis – also a prominent blogger – said “We ‘ll go to Bitcoin, we will be ahead of all the world economies and although it may be painful in the beginning, Greece’s economy will thrive in the long term.”


http://greece.greekreporter.com/201...e-bitcoin-if-eurogroup-doesnt-give-us-a-deal/
 

bushman
Joined
Sep 22, 2004
Messages
14,457
Tokens
Like I said, Greece is fooked and needs a ctrl-alt-delete on its economy


Austerity not enough to save Greece - leaked IMF documents

Even if Greece accepted all of the austerity measures demanded by its main creditors, the Troika, it still would not be able to make ends meet by 2030, according to IMF estimates revealed in a set of documents obtained by a German newspaper.

The most optimistic scenario shows that Greece would face an unsustainable debt in 2030 even if it agreed to the package of tax increases and spending cuts proposed by the European commission, the European Central Bank and the IMF in exchange for a five-month €15.5bn loan from its creditors.

These prospects were outlined in six documents that were part of the “final” proposal offered to Greece by the three main creditors on Friday. The papers were obtained by the German newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung and seen by The Guardian.

The estimates provide support for Greece’s decision not to accept the bailout deal. They prove that for Greece to survive economically, it needs real debt relief measures, not austerity reforms.

http://rt.com/news/270853-greek-debt-unsustainable-imf/
 

bet365 player
Joined
Oct 25, 2006
Messages
7,609
Tokens
If I had to bet on it I'd bet on Greece staying in the EU. The powers that be want them to stay and I just don't see them being brazen enough to say "Fuck the man" but anything is possible.

And he blinks.

Here comes the bounce.
 

Member
Joined
Jul 14, 2007
Messages
31,558
Tokens
TSLA close to 52 week high on good quarterly sales.

Next year a make or break for the near-term EV market, if they can get LI-ion batteries down 30% like they say then they can, then they can sell mass market cars. If not then they won't move out of being a niche company and the big automakers likely won't have incentive to push the envelope at nearly the pace they do.

Market seems to believe in them but it has always been a cult stock.
 

bet365 player
Joined
Oct 25, 2006
Messages
7,609
Tokens
I wish I could hold them until now. A few years back, I bought this stock at about $38/share and sold them $50/share right before it took off. Great timing!! face)(*^%
 

Member
Joined
Jul 14, 2007
Messages
31,558
Tokens
Yeah tough stock to get into now. A lot of potential upside priced in for awhile. Good buy 4-6 months ago after it got taken down with oil plummeting. They're gonna sell 60k cars this year and can't come close to keeping up with demand right now, short-term oil prices pretty much meaningless to them. It'll be awhile before the price of gas has any impact on their actual sales.

If they're successful in LI-ion production then I think a lot of these gigafactories are gonna start popping up. JCI or panasonic might be worth a hold. Then probably some raw materials companies that I have no clue about.
 

bet365 player
Joined
Oct 25, 2006
Messages
7,609
Tokens
I heard California will end the tax credit and use that toward subsidizing Totoya for the pilot hydrogen fuel cell program, the 1st in the country.

BMW just completed its own fancy version of hydrogen fuel cell sport sedan but they said they won't commit to production anytime soon. Eveyone is sitting on the sideline until the Iran nuke deal is sorted out.
 

Member
Joined
Jul 14, 2007
Messages
31,558
Tokens
They won't end the tax credit I don't think but they are pushing the hydrogen program. Unless Toyota knows something that the rest of us don't, hydrogen fuel cell cars are atleast 10-15 years away from mass market. You still have extremely high costs, would need to comedown another 80-90% to make a car viable for most. Tons of infrastructure issues with hydrogen as well.

LI-ion is ready to ramp up production right now. My guess is Toyota knows if LI-ion takes off and costs continue to drop they can just pivot to that pretty easily, whereas they would be the 1st mover to hydrogen.
 

Member
Joined
Jul 14, 2007
Messages
31,558
Tokens
Yeah these people are delusional. I understand not wanting to be debt slaves to the EU but they desperately need tax reform and to cut pensions. Their pension system in particular is fuckeddddddddd
 

the bear is back biatches!! printing cancel....
Joined
Mar 31, 2006
Messages
24,692
Tokens
Will be interesting to see if this is the beginning of the end for the EU..
 

the bear is back biatches!! printing cancel....
Joined
Mar 31, 2006
Messages
24,692
Tokens
Portugal the next domino to fall.. if this is finally the next wave of bust in bankster created global boom/bust..
 

Forum statistics

Threads
1,118,797
Messages
13,559,754
Members
100,687
Latest member
kenooo090848
The RX is the sports betting industry's leading information portal for bonuses, picks, and sportsbook reviews. Find the best deals offered by a sportsbook in your state and browse our free picks section.FacebookTwitterInstagramContact Usforum@therx.com