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wonder if he was talking about potential conference wins or if he didn't flip to the 2nd sheet of paper?

one SEC coach, asked to comment anonymously by Athlon Sports on the various league teams said....

As it sits, Alabama might be an eight-win team on paper, Obviously a lot hinges on how well the FSU kid does coming in -- will be make or break the season? The freshman,David Cornwell, is not ready. If they have to go with Blake Sims, their offensive play-calling will be very limited. They would run the ball a lot, wouldn't be very exotic with the passing game."

 

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I thought about switching from Verizon, but I am just going to use one of my friends comcast or directTV login and use it to stream the SEC Network on the WatchESPN app thru my Roku. Fios internet is much better than comcast's in my area. I can't go back to comcast.
 

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blogger wrote a pretty decent article today on South Carolina:

South Carolina’s Moment Of Truth

Posted by Kevin Causey on Aug 11, 2014 00:35

The SEC will see a lot of new faces under center this season, as the conference had four signal callers taken in the 2014 NFL Draft. Texas A&M will try to live life without Johnny Manziel, Georgia has to replace Aaron Murray, Alabama must move on from A.J. McCarron, and LSU will be without the services of Zach Mettenberger. That’s quite a bit of star power, but the team that might have the most difficult time replacing its quarterback isn’t in that group…
Playing on the road at Missouri with their backup quarterback, the South Carolina Gamecocks found themselves in a very difficult position last season against the number five team in the country. The Gamecocks had nine drives that all ended in failure: two punts, two fumbles, two turnovers on downs, an interception, a missed field goal, and the half even ended on them. The offense had some success moving the football but when push came to shove, it couldn’t finish the drill.
Trailing by 17 points with the clock winding down, who could the Gamecocks turn to? Connor Shaw had strained his knee the previous weekend, but after watching the Gamecocks fail to find the end zone in the first half, he asked to be put in the game in place of Dylan Thompson. Midway through the third quarter with little hope in sight, Steve Spurrier finally pulled the trigger and lifted his backup quarterback in favor of Shaw.
It took Shaw one series to get himself acclimated and then it was off to the races. After a punt on his first series, Shaw led the Gamecocks on drives of 65, 69 and 63 yards, as the Gamecocks scored 17 unanswered points in the fourth quarter to tie up the previously unbeaten Tigers of Missouri and push the game into overtime. In a contest that once looked like an impossible win for the Gamecocks, Shaw brought them from the depths of despair to victory as they won in overtime, 27-24.
That game summed up Connor Shaw’s career at South Carolina. He was a guy who left everything out on the football field. He was an underdog. He was a winner.
In Shaw’s three years as a starter, the Gamecocks went 33-6 overall and 18-6 in the SEC. Shaw amassed over 1,500 yards rushing in his career and over 6,000 yards passing. As a senior, Shaw threw 24 touchdowns and only one interception.
Simply put, Connor Shaw was the most underrated player in college football.
When interviewed by Athlon Sports, an anonymous SEC coach had this to say about the South Carolina quarterback job this season….
“We thought Connor Shaw was outstanding. The other kid (Dylan Thompson) got a lot of good reps. But Shaw was what made everything work there.”
On a team that featured the number one overall draft pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, it was Shaw, not Jadeveon Clowney, who was the heart and soul of the Gamecocks.
Enter Dylan Thompson.
Thompson is no stranger to playing college football, as he has played in over 20 games and has started three during his career as Shaw’s backup. Despite not getting the job done against Missouri, Thompson has seen his share of success in the garnet and black. It was Thompson who threw the game-winning pass in the 2013 Outback Bowl against Michigan with just 11 seconds left to give the Gamecocks a victory. He also led the Gamecocks to a 27-17 win from start to finish against Clemson in 2012 as he threw for 310 yards and three touchdowns.
One thing to like about Thompson over Shaw is that he has more big play ability. From ESPN Stats & Information from the Outback Bowl victory:
“With his 70-yard pass to Nick Jones, Dylan Thompson has three completions of 50-plus yards on 121 passes this season. Connor Shaw only has five such passes in 430 career throws.”
For Thompson, it doesn’t seem to be a question of talent but a question of knowing when to go for broke and when to live to fight another day. Statistics don’t tell the entire story, but when you look at Thompson’s numbers it’s clear that he needs to be more consistent. In 2012, his completion percentage was just 52 percent. In 2013, he raised it to 58.4 percent, but that would have put him tied for 11th in terms of SEC quarterbacks. With a TD to INT ratio of 4 to 3, it simply would not be good enough.
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Another thing to like about Thompson is that he seems grounded. Here’s what he told Josh Kendall of GoGamecocks.com:
“I was thinking about how I could be the best leader, and I just wanted to approach the offseason as completely unproven. Let’s be real about it, I threw four touchdowns and had three interceptions last year. There is no reason for me to be hyped up.”
Not only does Thompson have big shoes to fill, but he will have to fill them quickly. The Gamecocks’ 2014 schedule starts off like the Kentucky Derby. First they must face the offense-minded Texas A&M Aggies. Then they host an underrated East Carolina team that beat two ACC teams in 2013 and returns a quarterback who threw for over 4,000 yards last season. Oh yeah, then they get rival Georgia, who will be coming off of a bye week and arguably has the best group of offensive skill-position players in the nation. It’s clear that right out of the gate, the Gamecocks’ offense is going to need to score a lot of points to win its first few games.
South Carolina is one of the favorites to win the SEC East, and winning the entire SEC is not out of reach for this team, but it all starts with replacing the heart and soul of the Gamecocks. Whether or not Dylan Thompson can do that will be the difference between winning the division and fighting to get into the first ever college football playoff and — on the other hand — staying home and watching the playoff on TV.

[h=2]About Kevin Causey[/h] dry humorist, beer snob, occasionally unbiased SEC fan, UGA alumni, contributor for The Student Section and founder of College Football Zealots
 

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ESPN and DirecTV reached an agreement Monday for DirecTV to carry the SEC Network when it launches on Aug. 14.
Adding DirecTV will make the SEC Network available in 87 million households. DirecTV joins Bright House Networks, Comcast, Cox Media, Dish Network, Time Warner Cable, and AT&T U-Verse as companies that will carry the network. Verizon FIOS has not reached a deal yet with ESPN to feature the network.

Charter cable is now on board too for about another 20 million households. (and a sigh of relief from me :))
 

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boys on siriusxm were discussing the traits of the 9 teams that have beaten alabama since the 2008 season

1) win 11 games - 8 of the 9 teams that beat alabama won at least 11 games that season. only south carolina (9-5, sec east champs) failed to hit DD wins
2) force turnovers - 9 games, 19 turnovers ... only the barn defeated Bama without forcing a turnover
3) off the field on 3rd down - Bama converted just 39% of 3rd downs in those defeats and were forced into trying 22 field goals...made just 11 of them
4) hot QB helps - 6 of the 9 games saw the opponent's qb post a 80.9+ QB rating
5) run the ball - 7 of 9 ran for 108+ yards and 8 of 9 ran for at least 81. can't be 1-dimensional unless you're utah 2009
 

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boys on siriusxm were discussing the traits of the 9 teams that have beaten alabama since the 2008 season

1) win 11 games - 8 of the 9 teams that beat alabama won at least 11 games that season. only south carolina (9-5, sec east champs) failed to hit DD wins
2) force turnovers - 9 games, 19 turnovers ... only the barn defeated Bama without forcing a turnover
3) off the field on 3rd down - Bama converted just 39% of 3rd downs in those defeats and were forced into trying 22 field goals...made just 11 of them
4) hot QB helps - 6 of the 9 games saw the opponent's qb post a 80.9+ QB rating
5) run the ball - 7 of 9 ran for 108+ yards and 8 of 9 ran for at least 81. can't be 1-dimensional unless you're utah 2009

It's been a helluva run there, but all good things come to an end. I have bama losing 2-3 games this year. With the QB position unsettled and a couple freshman starting on the OL (one at LT), I think this is the year Saban's ship takes on water. I have them losing @ Ole miss and at home to Auburn. And I think they possibly will be upset one more time. I took some Bama under 10 +260 yesterday, and I'll probably take some U9.5 +380 too. Bama's defense will be very good, but with the way football is now, you have to have a quality QB to win a game or two on a last second drive. I don't think bama has that QB this year.
 

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should only be one freshman up front and that is Cam Robinson on the left. Agree on QB...as I wrote earlier in this thread none of them are impressing right now and without a guy that can play a little quicker than normal (lane's style), stretch the field, and hit the quick slants this offense won't work. No concerns at all with Cam as he was the #1 lineman in the nation and the only other frosh i would expect on the 2-deep is Piersbacher. I think they're going to be fine and likely better overall than the OL was last year.

not sure most folks would call John Paker Wilson or Greg McElroy a "quality QB" and they both played for SEC titles under CNS so I'll be surprised if we lose 3 regular season games but equally surprised if we run the table.

vs the 2013 team the two areas I believe we're behind are QB (obviously) and LB. WR/RB/TE are tremendously deep and talented, DL doesn't have much depth but has more talent than 2013, and secondary is a little bigger and faster than 2103. We've recruited some great LB but they'll have to step up this season as it's not easy replacing the great players that have departed from 2012 & 2013 teams.

honestly the only concern i have is QB. I'm fairly sure I know Sims' upside which is in the JP Wilson range but Coker is still an unknown even 2 weeks into fall practice. Everyone's impressed with his arm strength but his accuracy has been pretty awful so far. Is that just a function of learning the offense and getting acquainted with the speed and tendencies of his targets? about to find out...
 

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should only be one freshman up front and that is Cam Robinson on the left. Agree on QB...as I wrote earlier in this thread none of them are impressing right now and without a guy that can play a little quicker than normal (lane's style), stretch the field, and hit the quick slants this offense won't work. No concerns at all with Cam as he was the #1 lineman in the nation and the only other frosh i would expect on the 2-deep is Piersbacher. I think they're going to be fine and likely better overall than the OL was last year.

not sure most folks would call John Paker Wilson or Greg McElroy a "quality QB" and they both played for SEC titles under CNS so I'll be surprised if we lose 3 regular season games but equally surprised if we run the table.

vs the 2013 team the two areas I believe we're behind are QB (obviously) and LB. WR/RB/TE are tremendously deep and talented, DL doesn't have much depth but has more talent than 2013, and secondary is a little bigger and faster than 2103. We've recruited some great LB but they'll have to step up this season as it's not easy replacing the great players that have departed from 2012 & 2013 teams.

honestly the only concern i have is QB. I'm fairly sure I know Sims' upside which is in the JP Wilson range but Coker is still an unknown even 2 weeks into fall practice. Everyone's impressed with his arm strength but his accuracy has been pretty awful so far. Is that just a function of learning the offense and getting acquainted with the speed and tendencies of his targets? about to find out...

I think the SEC and SEC west is much much stronger now, than it was then Wilson was QBing. I think having a game manager won't be enough this year. Gus and Hugh can coach the offensive side of the ball. You are going to have to score to win ball games. The days of low scoring football are a thing of the past.
 

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I think the SEC and SEC west is much much stronger now, than it was then Wilson was QBing. I think having a game manager won't be enough this year. Gus and Hugh can coach the offensive side of the ball. You are going to have to score to win ball games. The days of low scoring football are a thing of the past.

well the flip side to that is Bama is a fully stronger team today than when JP Wilson was QB with Shula recruits and Saban freshman.

if there's a year to rebuild with a new qb this is the one. new starters all over the conference....bama, lsu, uga, so carolina, missouri, aTm to name a few.

my concern is the upside. does coker have a bigger upside than Allen or Mason or Thompson? I think Sims is a very limited qb with accuracy issues so his ceiling is about at the JP Wilson or Tyler Watts range. Coker is the wild card here....

i don't see an 8-4 or 9-3 season coming and personally believe there are at least a dozen better season win totals out there (starting with Iowa and Miss St overs....) but obviously you'll need Coker to be pretty awful, or Sims to be Sims, to see 3+ losses from this team.
 

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I'm in a big money College Football Pool. Pretty simple format, draft two teams, combine their ending AP pool ranking. Lowest score wins.

I have the 11th overall pick.

The teams I am looking at that could be there are Michigan State, Georgia, Stanford, Baylor, LSU, and Wisconsin.

Here's how I have them ranked.

1. Georgia
2. Baylor
3. Wisconsin
4. Michigan State
5. LSU
6. Stanford

How you guys see it? Who would you take with the 11th pick?
 

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agree with UGA #1 ... i'd put WISC in 6th

don't love baylor but with that schedule they can't be lower than #3

probably go

UGA
BAYLOR
LSU
STANFORD
MICH ST
WISC
 

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Just wanted to thank Cloverleaf for the thread. Great insight and info and thanks to all that have contributed to the thread.
 

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agree with UGA #1 ... i'd put WISC in 6th

don't love baylor but with that schedule they can't be lower than #3

probably go

UGA
BAYLOR
LSU
STANFORD
MICH ST
WISC

The reason I am high on Wisky is because of their easy schedule. LSU could be starting a freshman at QB. If Wisky knocks them off in the first game, they have a good shot to run the table after that. They will be favorite in every game after LSU. Even if they lose in the Big 10 championship they would still be in the top 10 going into their bowl game at 11-1.
 

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here are my thoughts on wisc ... personally prefer iowa to win that div

they will have an incredible running game though...

i always assume nebraska is a fade when something is expected of them so i'll agree with them failing again. not sure if they'll go 4-8 but i certainly don't expect them to be a title challenger in the big 10 like the media does

i believe Wisconsin could be the biggest disappointment. tough to replace your top 4 LB and nearly entire front 7 plus have questions at QB. but with 75 starts coming back on the OLINE this all sets up for a 2000+ yard season for Gordon

I'll take Iowa to win the west. Rudock started every game and got better as season went along, one of best offensive lineman in ncaaf, and the easiest schedule in the big 10 (avoid OSU, MSU, PSU, UM). Their only league road games are maryland, minn, illinois, and purdue.

could be a huge year for the Hawkeyes...at least it sets up really nicely for them
 

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Kentucky's quarterback competition was four-deep as mid-August approached with sophomore Patrick Towles viewed as the favorite over redshirt freshman Reese Phillips, junior Maxwell Smith and true freshman Drew Barker.Coach Mark Stoops announced Monday he's going with Towles as the starter."After thorough evaluation and a hard fought competition, we are naming Patrick Towles as our starting quarterback," Stoops said via Twitter, adding "This competition has brought out the best in our quarterbacks and I'm confident in Patrick moving our team forward."Towles is a big pocket passer at 6-5, 238, but accuracy can be an issue. He redshirted last season under a new coaching staff after playing five games in 2012 as a true freshman.Kentucky begins the 2014 season Aug. 30 against Tennessee-Martin.
 

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Bovada, the online sports book, recently released their preseason Heisman odds.

There were eight players from the SEC that made the list, including Georgia running back Todd Gurley, Auburn quarterback Nick Marshall and Alabama running backs T.J. Yeldon and Derrick Henry. These guys will likely get the most attention from the media.
Here is a look at five candidates that could jump into the Heisman discussion as the season draws on:

Dak Prescott, QB, Mississippi State:
The talented quarterback might be one of the most underrated players in the SEC. Although he's only started seven games in his career, Prescott has the poise and athleticism to be a threat. He finished the 2013 season with a combined 2,769 yards and 23 touchdowns. At 6-foot-2, 230 pounds, the talented signal caller also has the size you look for in a quarterback. It's been said that Prescott is one of the strongest players on the roster. If he can stay healthy during the season, expect him to be considered for college football's most prestigious individual trophy.


Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU:
Fournette hasn't even played a down of college football, but the hype he has received makes him an obvious darkhorse candidate for the Heisman. The 6-foot-1, 230-pound true freshman was the No. 1 overall recruit in the 247Sports Composite ratings. He has all the tools to be an every-down back for the Tigers. Not only is he a powerful runner, Fournette is a great receiver out of the backfield. If he can handle the physicality of the SEC, which all signs say he should, Fournette will have a great freshman campaign.


Hutson Mason, QB, Georgia:
Although Mason is teammates with Todd Gurley, arguably the nation's best running back, it doesn't mean that he can't win the Heisman. The fifth-year senior has been waiting for the opportunity to be Georgia's starting quarterback, and the time has finally come. Mason will replace Aaron Murray, one of the most decorated quarterbacks in SEC history. Those are big shoes to fill, but the poised quarterback has the skills and playmakers to have a big season in 2014. The Bulldogs are deep at the wide receiver and running back positions. If Gurley can't stay healthy, expect Mason's stats to be even more impressive.


Maty Mauk, QB, Missouri:
The talented youngster looks to become the next big-time quarterback at Missouri. As a redshirt freshman, Mauk was 3-1 as a starter. He helped lead the team to its first SEC Championship appearance. Mauk plays with a toughness you can't teach. For a guy his size, he is not afraid to lower his shoulder and take a hit. During the 2013 season, Mauk scored 11 touchdowns in replace of injured quarterback James Franklin. Although he will have to find a go-to receiver, expect Mauk to have a very productive season in 2014.


Cameron Artis-Payne, RB, Auburn:
The Tigers' talented running back has the chance to be the next Tre Mason. Just like Mason last year, Artis-Payne hasn't been given much consideration when it comes to the Heisman Trophy. That should change as the year progresses, especially if Artis-Payne can get enough carries in Auburn's fast-paced offense. Last season, he rushed for 610 yards and six touchdowns. Expect Artis-Payne to put up better numbers, even if he has to share the load with Corey Grant and possibly Johnathan Ford.
 

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if anyone isn't following the Bama qb situation it feels like it is actually getting worse. On saturday's scrimmage both were awful, especially coker, so right now the projection is for Sims to start vs WVU. their performance in first scrimmage was written off due to bad weather but this second scrimmage wasn't affected by rain at all. this is certainly not the way Saban planned it....

also the true freshman at left tackle was getting punished pretty good but it is against alabama's defense....

so if you were to take the top 5 question marks going into the year I would say two have now moved from questions to concerns, a new one has popped up, but two are looking like strengths

1) qb play - concern
2) offensive line - concern
3) special teams - strength
4) secondary - strength
5) missed tackles - new question mark

if #1, 2, 5 become negatives and the running backs fumble issues continue from 2013 then sunday tiger might have a great chance of cashing that season under bet. i know i'm more concerned this week than i was two weeks ago....
 

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RT, any real concerns w/ the QB position? I'm guessing there may be a "racial" issue if Coker beats out Sims (i.e. divided locker room).
 

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RT, any real concerns w/ the QB position? I'm guessing there may be a "racial" issue if Coker beats out Sims (i.e. divided locker room).

not worried about a split locker room but, yeah, there are some very real concerns about the position. i'm bringing a noose with me to atlanta next week...just in case
 

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Which SEC teams have been the most and least penalized over the last five years? Here’s a breakdown, from the least to the most:
RankTeamGPenPen. YdsPen/GYds/G
1Alabama673012,4444.4936.48
2Kentucky623132,6705.0543.06
3Miss State643312,7185.1742.47
4Tennessee623452,7355.5644.11
5Ole Miss633542,9055.6246.11
6Vanderbilt633632,8715.7645.57
7South Carolina663682,9795.5845.14
8Arkansas633913,0926.2149.08
9Auburn663963,4386.0052.09
10LSU664333,4236.5651.86
11Georgia674383,4536.5451.54
12Florida654903,8597.5459.37
Missouri*261391,0625.3540.85
Texas A&M*261611,4256.1954.81
*Reflects two years in the SECTakeaways:
  • Alabama has committed the least amount of penalties despite playing more games than every other team not named Georgia. The Tide is the only team to average under five penalties per game. Florida fans would tell you the Gators average that per offensive drive. How does Alabama continually commit the least amount of penalties?
  • Florida is holding true to their billing as continually the SEC’s most penalized team over the last five years. Florida wins national championships being the most penalized team, and they also finish 4-8 being one of the most penalized teams. What gives? Florida averages over 7.5 penalties per game, and they have committed 52 more penalties than the next closest team in Georgia. Florida finished 102nd, 114th and 89th committed in the country in the number of penalties under Muschamp’s teams.
  • Of the teams that won BCS championships since 2006, only Alabama is even in the top eight. Auburn, LSU and Florida are outside that range, committing six penalties or more per game. So, how big of an effect do penalties really have? Teams that have won championships not named Alabama haven’t had an issue with it.
http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/sec-penalties-last-five-years-2014/
 

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