Just because they built the building doesn't mean anyone is learning in it. Schools are places for kids to go while their parents are working not many are learning in todays public school. More wasted tax dollars. I would love to know that my tax dollars were going toward learning not baby sitting.
“There are nearly fifty [independent neighborhood schools for Black and Hispanic youth] in Chicago,” says Ratteray, “with most of them located in the least affluent communities.” These are grade schools, for the most part, some high schools, and some schools offering grades K-12. Their total enrollment is about 2.3 per cent of the enrollment in Chicago’s public schools. Annual tuition ranges from $270 in the poorest areas to $3000 in more affluent neighborhoods. Strikingly, “. . . in the city as a whole, schools that are closest to poor neighborhoods have the highest enrollments, the longest waiting lists, and the greatest need for expanded facilities.” One grade school within walking distance of five housing projects has a waiting list of over one thousand!
Why should poorer parents be so eager to pay extra for private schools? Because leaving their children in the public schools bears an even higher cost—in their children’s education, personal development, and physical safety. Parents express deep concern about the low academic standards, the violence, and the unapproachable bureaucracy of the public schools. They want for their children discipline, safety, and a strong sense of values.” . . . [T]hey are willing to endure severe economic hardship in order to provide a better chance at learning for their children.”
They are also willing to work hard and imaginatively to keep their schools going. According to Dr. Ratteray, “[T]hese schools are the epitome of self-help, entrepreneurship, and innovation.” Parents pay tuition out of meager savings from paychecks, by help from grandparents, and by working at the schools. They frequently participate in fund-raising, which often provides a substantial portion of the schools’ budgets. One school augments income with the profits from a thrift shop operated by the parents; another “is part of an organizational structure that houses its own publishing company and bookstore . . . [O]ne-third of the school’s operating capital comes from the success of the other two enterprises.”
Some of the schools take advantage of church buildings and in-kind help from their communities. Some receive support from foundations and church congregations with which they are affiliated. A few are blessed with energetic leaders who campaign around the country to raise additional operating funds. Through such programs as “adopt-a-child,” churches and civic organizations undertake a child’s costs. And in one school, “teachers participate in a salary-sharing program that is maintained by contributions from donors outside the immediate community. In this way, the contributors maintain a personal relationship with the teachers they sponsor and come to learn a great deal about the program.”
The Chicago experience casts doubt on one of the main reasons given for public schools—that the private alternative is too expensive, especially for the poor. Certainly many of the less-affluent parents have severe difficulty making tuition payments, and the low-budget schools often do without enough textbooks and adequate facilities. Often parents must withdraw their children, and occasionally the schools fail. Nevertheless, these schools on the whole are succeeding and growing, an accomplishment the more impressive for the financial difficulties involved.
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Obviously, vouchers would help poorer parents pay their share. Most of the money would still come from other sources, including charity. And such schools are working out very well in many inner cities.
Why should poorer parents be so eager to pay extra for private schools? Because leaving their children in the public schools bears an even higher cost—in their children’s education, personal development, and physical safety. Parents express deep concern about the low academic standards, the violence, and the unapproachable bureaucracy of the public schools. They want for their children discipline, safety, and a strong sense of values.” . . . [T]hey are willing to endure severe economic hardship in order to provide a better chance at learning for their children.”
They are also willing to work hard and imaginatively to keep their schools going. According to Dr. Ratteray, “[T]hese schools are the epitome of self-help, entrepreneurship, and innovation.” Parents pay tuition out of meager savings from paychecks, by help from grandparents, and by working at the schools. They frequently participate in fund-raising, which often provides a substantial portion of the schools’ budgets. One school augments income with the profits from a thrift shop operated by the parents; another “is part of an organizational structure that houses its own publishing company and bookstore . . . [O]ne-third of the school’s operating capital comes from the success of the other two enterprises.”
Some of the schools take advantage of church buildings and in-kind help from their communities. Some receive support from foundations and church congregations with which they are affiliated. A few are blessed with energetic leaders who campaign around the country to raise additional operating funds. Through such programs as “adopt-a-child,” churches and civic organizations undertake a child’s costs. And in one school, “teachers participate in a salary-sharing program that is maintained by contributions from donors outside the immediate community. In this way, the contributors maintain a personal relationship with the teachers they sponsor and come to learn a great deal about the program.”
The Chicago experience casts doubt on one of the main reasons given for public schools—that the private alternative is too expensive, especially for the poor. Certainly many of the less-affluent parents have severe difficulty making tuition payments, and the low-budget schools often do without enough textbooks and adequate facilities. Often parents must withdraw their children, and occasionally the schools fail. Nevertheless, these schools on the whole are succeeding and growing, an accomplishment the more impressive for the financial difficulties involved.
http://www.fee.org/Publications/the-Freeman/article.asp?aid=1382
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Obviously, vouchers would help poorer parents pay their share. Most of the money would still come from other sources, including charity. And such schools are working out very well in many inner cities.
got that right
department of education a complete failure
big government fails again go figure
if i ever have a kid (not planning on it but never know) he/she will be part time homeschooled no ifs and buts about it....
saw in california they are requiring you to have a teaching degree to homeschool.....such insanity
not like kids are doing anything in private schools either. teachers give grades away since parents are paying them big money and there salaries. the private kid will just stay in the burbs and be a meth addict instead of being a coke addict in the city. private school is a resume boosting chest bump that your mom and dad have money.
colleges will admit these kids with lower SAT scores as well in these private schools since there parents will donate money to the school. SAT isnt even required at alot of schools now.
some of the dumbest people ive met have gone to private high schools.
all comes down to money.
colleges will admit these kids with lower SAT scores as well in these private schools since there parents will donate money to the school. SAT isnt even required at alot of schools now.
some of the dumbest people ive met have gone to private high schools.
all comes down to money.
my advisor actually is a die hard catholic that has a huge family
he (mainly his wife) homeschools his kids and knows this issue well
he says the performance of homeschoolers vs. public/private schoolers is night and day
what do you know parents actually show an interest in their kids education and they get a good one
who woulda thunk
this whole issue of school is a parent issue not a government issue
the more parents get involved the better their kid will perform.....
he (mainly his wife) homeschools his kids and knows this issue well
he says the performance of homeschoolers vs. public/private schoolers is night and day
what do you know parents actually show an interest in their kids education and they get a good one
who woulda thunk
this whole issue of school is a parent issue not a government issue
the more parents get involved the better their kid will perform.....
parent has the money. parent gets the kid in elite high school. kid given heavily weighted scores in his favor. kid applies to prestigious private university. prestigious university sees this kid has money since he's attending a school that costs 40k a year. college sees high GPA, disregards SAT. admits student. parent donates money. kid graduates top of his class since top schools heavily weigh grades, thats why all harvard kids are A students, that is true fact, look up if you wish. kid graduates from harvard, and is set. the kid essentially uses his parents to get to the top, the kid 30 percent of the time might actually deserve it.
your already paying and arm and a leg for your public education
and what's department of education that gets in the way of letting teacher teach how they please costing us
its all a scam
pay more money for shittier education
anyway regardless of this issue itself
until more american parents start taking a role in their child's education
rather than sitting in front of the tv tired from work eating a bag of cheetos and yelling at billie to do his homework and if he flunks he's gonna get a whoppin
american's intelligence will continue to diminish
for some reason as a nation we've been conned into this idea that the government and schools should take care of that for children's education....gimme a break.....
Hey stupid you just don't get it. You are the typical angry black guy. Sorry you never learned better. Sorry you are black and feel everyone (white rightie) is against you.
You are completely missing the point.
Revampp the entire system. There would be no more public schools. They would be like independent companies that just happen to be in the educational business. They would have to compete to get the kids to go there. In this system there is no need for private schools. They are all open enrollment schools. What is so wrong with parents having a choice to help thier kids.
This would help poor black people more than anyone GTC. But you are to dumb to know this.
I have to say you "say" you are going for a masters degree yet you are pretty stupid. You need to ask for a refund. LOL Why is this so hard to understand.
No more teachers unions no more school boards no more putting up with bullshit school systems. Make it a business and it would be much much better.
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You tell'em, tizdoom!
Throw out the corrupt entrenched self-interested bureaucracies that are poisoning our children and give 100% control back to the parents. Then watch how quickly our children's minds go from smelling like a pile of turds to Delices de Cartier overnight.
Socialism = FAILURE.
That's a lie.
Ron Paul wanted to end the iraq war and close every US base in the world and use those funds to pay for things like medical care and education, thus EXPANDING the immoral welfare state -- really no different than BO.
Are you going to turn this into another Ron Paul infomercial, or would you rather debate the evil fed instead? :missingte
Start spreading the news: Soros-Obama-barnman socialism blows.
uke1:im black now all of a sudden lol.
rightside, why do you follow me all over the forum and act like a little kid. why cant you just admit your system has failed. why do I have to agree with you? why cant you just move on accept that i have a different opinion then you? why do you have to continue trying to prove that you are right and i am wrong?
rightside, why do you follow me all over the forum and act like a little kid. why cant you just admit your system has failed. why do I have to agree with you? why cant you just move on accept that i have a different opinion then you? why do you have to continue trying to prove that you are right and i am wrong?
In "my system" are you referring to the great quality of life even the poor people in this great country have.
Or are you talking about all the leftwing kooks that want the government to take care of us. Seems like things were going fine till all the lefties thought they knew best.
Are you saying the public school system works??????????????
If you answer yes you are stupid.
I am advocating this to help the inner city poor black kids.
And yes I did think you were black since you always play the victim.
not entirely but some truth to that
mainly comes into play at the college level though as far as its impact on a person livelihood going forward
when you have a lower income person graduating after going through 2 years of community college and finishing up at a not so prestigous public university vs. some rich kid graduating from harvard
they might be on level playing field as far as smarts.....but won't be to employers due to what their degree says
the pre college game is just the minor leagues learning the basics
Tiz, you make the typical mistake when looking at this.
What level of intelligence do you think homeschool parents usually have? What level of intelligence do you expect a homeschool kid to have?
How many dumb parents attempt to homeschool their kids?
Is it any surprise that home school kids outperform public school kids?
I mean this makes perfect sense. The chickens are making the eggs.
