C'mon, Smart Guy, answer the Braun example I posted. State publicly that he wouldn't-and shouldn't-be punished, and punished severely, for getting caught with a cork bat. Why do you refuse to answer that, instead deflecting with incredibly stupid deflection attempts-comparing incompetent NFL officials with no skin in the game to a NFL team that has a long standing history of bending and breaking the rules. Brilliant...
Ba‘al Zəvûv;10956038 said:
She isn't in competition with anyone else.
This is the most idiotic analogy you clowns have put out there.
Both you and Wizard are a couple of fucking retards. Wizards last post was as idiotic as yours.
Only on this forum can people spout such nonsense, yet convince themselves they are right.
I went ahead and kidnapped a Science Teacher from the High School up the road. I released him after he completed the following:
Thus, given a constant amount of air in the football and a negligible volume change, the pressure will obey:
So the absolute pressure within a football pumped to 13 psi is 13 +15 = 28psi absolute.
The 4.7% drop applied to the absolute pressure gives a drop of 1.32 psi.
Thus, the pressure within the football at game time will be only 13 -1.32 = 11.68 psi and thus well below regulation gauge pressure of 12.5-13.5psi.
If the footballs were were at just 12.5psi to start....which is very conceivable because it is known that Brady likes psi at lowest (or even below) lowest what would be if the footballs in question were inflated within that 75 F degree locker room then taken out to a playing field at a temperature of 50 degrees F?
The 4.7% drop applied to the absolute pressure of 12.5 +15 = 27.5psi would be adjusted to balls losing 1.3psi to be at 11.2psi by game time.
Additionally, pressure is lost every time you stick a needle in to check the pressure.
Conclusion: It seems highly likely that the Patriots equipment manager checked all 12 balls in a warm locker room and they lost pressure merely by cooling off on the field.
In addition, the cold rain would have accelerated the heat transfer out of the balls.
Finally, if the indoor inflation air was very humid, there would be an additional loss of pressure due to water vapor condensation on the inside of the bladder as the temperature of the football dropped.
Uh-Oh the cops are here. I wonder what they want.
The effect of temperature on football inflation.
Subject: Footballs inflated in a 75 F degree locker room then taken out to a playing field at a temperature of 50 degrees F.
Subject: Footballs inflated in a 75 F degree locker room then taken out to a playing field at a temperature of 50 degrees F.
Question: How much would the change in temperature decrease the pressure in the football?
Ideal Gas Law PV=nRT applies. Pressure times volume is equal to the number of moles times the gas constant times the temperature of the gas (in degrees Kelvin).
Thus, given a constant amount of air in the football and a negligible volume change, the pressure will obey:
P = nRT/V
The change in pressure is thus proportional to the change in temperature,
The 75 degree locker room has an absolute temperature of 297o K
The 40 degree playing field has an absolute temperature of 283o K
The change in temperature of 14o K will thus cause a drop in pressure of 14/297 = 4.7%
To translate this into a pressure change we must recall that football pressure is measured in gauge pressure, relative to the atmospheric pressure of 15 psi.The change in pressure is thus proportional to the change in temperature,
The 75 degree locker room has an absolute temperature of 297o K
The 40 degree playing field has an absolute temperature of 283o K
The change in temperature of 14o K will thus cause a drop in pressure of 14/297 = 4.7%
So the absolute pressure within a football pumped to 13 psi is 13 +15 = 28psi absolute.
The 4.7% drop applied to the absolute pressure gives a drop of 1.32 psi.
Thus, the pressure within the football at game time will be only 13 -1.32 = 11.68 psi and thus well below regulation gauge pressure of 12.5-13.5psi.
If the footballs were were at just 12.5psi to start....which is very conceivable because it is known that Brady likes psi at lowest (or even below) lowest what would be if the footballs in question were inflated within that 75 F degree locker room then taken out to a playing field at a temperature of 50 degrees F?
The 4.7% drop applied to the absolute pressure of 12.5 +15 = 27.5psi would be adjusted to balls losing 1.3psi to be at 11.2psi by game time.
Additionally, pressure is lost every time you stick a needle in to check the pressure.
Conclusion: It seems highly likely that the Patriots equipment manager checked all 12 balls in a warm locker room and they lost pressure merely by cooling off on the field.
In addition, the cold rain would have accelerated the heat transfer out of the balls.
Finally, if the indoor inflation air was very humid, there would be an additional loss of pressure due to water vapor condensation on the inside of the bladder as the temperature of the football dropped.
Uh-Oh the cops are here. I wonder what they want.
Bottom line, if Payton from the Saints gets a suspension for an entire year, Beluchick should get a 5 year suspension for all his BS & the cheating Pats should lose draft picks for 3 years.......
Payton was head hunting. Do you know what that is? Intentionally trying to injure an opposing player. That to me is a SERIOUS infraction.
But doctoring the ball, if we are to believe the few QBs who have weighted in, is a common practice. Within the psi specification rule the penalty for infraction is spelled out as a minimum of $25,000.00. And you want what? Five year suspension for a guy who likely (if you believe Matt Hasslebeck who played on eight teams) knew nothing of any ball deflation.
Get real.
I Hope the NFL levels the appropriate money fine as soon as possible. The NFL NEEDS to get this behind them NOW for the good of the game.
But doctoring the ball, if we are to believe the few QBs who have weighted in, is a common practice. Within the psi specification rule the penalty for infraction is spelled out as a minimum of $25,000.00. And you want what? Five year suspension for a guy who likely (if you believe Matt Hasslebeck who played on eight teams) knew nothing of any ball deflation.
Get real.
I Hope the NFL levels the appropriate money fine as soon as possible. The NFL NEEDS to get this behind them NOW for the good of the game.
I read those fumble stats and I'm not buying the correlation. On the Patriots fear is the secret non-fumbling ingredient. It's simple. If you fumble, you sit. Brady throws few picks. And there are few fumbles. Belichick is aware of the correlation between turning the ball over and losing, or gaining turnovers and winning. This stuff is COACHED on the Patriots.
Yes he should be punished for it. I don't see how using a cork bat vs deflating a football are both comparable. Yes it helps both in handling and from fumbling. But the ball was not deflated to the point where it is severely an advantage. Cold air could drop the psi in a ball. They have not proved that the equip guy did indeed deflate the ball. They did not check the colts balls to see if they were deflated. They chose specifically the pats. I find that a bit odd. They should've done side by side with 12 from each team to see whether it was intentional. If it's done intentional? So be it. Punish them. But will that stop others from doing it? No. Bounties still happen within the NFL after bountygatw which imo was bs. PEDs suspension is bs. Most if not all use PEDs to get into the NFL. So why stop it within the NFL? It's known what it takes to get there. What about the teams who cheat who haven't gotten caught? It's ok until then? Obviously it is right?
Lmao, I don't want him suspended for the deflated footballs only, lmao, how about the infractions for past years??
Spygate, etc.......this team & coach have been slipping thru the cracks for years, probably because of Kraft's influences.
Are there other teams cheating? Of course, they're just not getting caught.......unlike the refs that manipulate games every week.......the NFL is the most popular league in this country, & it covers up most blatant BS like politicians covering their ass.
As i pointed out, what you think is comparable or significant isn't important, one, because they're both cheating, and, two, because your comment that the air pressure of the balls isn't that significant was contradicted by several actual quarterbacks. It's SCARY how clueless you are, you're yammering about the situation when you don't even know wtf is going on, witness THIS gem:
"They did not check the colts balls to see if they were deflated. They chose specifically the pats. I find that a bit odd."
ROTFLMAO!!!! Tell me, does the sun rising in the east catch you unawares each morning, as well?? Let me clue you in on your little "conspiracy:"
"During that game, Colts safety Mike Adams twice intercepted Tom Brady and gave the balls to the Colts' equipment manager to save -- and both times there were concerns about the balls feeling underinflated, sources told Schefter.
Those sources said the Colts raised concerns to the league, which was aware of the issue going into this weekend's AFC title game."
Gee, the Colts suspected that the Pats would try to cheat by deflating the balls before the game even started, and they were right! What are the ODDS?!?!
Your final 3 sentences clearly demonstrate that you just don't get it, as stated by me and several other people in this thread. I'm amazed that you can find your way home at night.
I havent cheered for any college or pro team since I was in high school.......I cheer for money.
My point is & I think some people are blind to the fact that if Payton gets suspended for an instance.......Belichick has been getting caught for cheating since 2001.......that's only 14 years.......not that he got caught every year, but someone needs to take responsibility for all the BS that's going on in New England.
If Goodell is gonna suspend Payton for 1 year & whatever else he took from them for a one time thing......well, WTF is going in the NFL, is Kraft that influential, or is Goodell getting suitcases full of money & not doing much......& a 500k fine to Bellichick is jack shit! I bet Kraft reimbursed him for winning that super bowl.
You think Belichick is the only coach aware of this? Really? Plenty of players get benched for fumbling, all over the league. To say that Belichick is the only coach aware of this, or the only coach that emphasizes this, is laughable.
The number of NE fumbles compared to the rest of the league is staggering. If you think that's because of coaching, you are pretty gullible.
