Rose Bowl Stanford now -7. Convince me not to take MSU.

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Pac 12, totally dominating!

Funny stuff.

Did you type this out and just put your cursor over the "submit" button waiting for MSU to run out the clock?

MSU is a very good team. Good game. If I'm Stanford, no shame in losing to that team.
 

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writing was on the wall when Stanford got called for pass interference whewn the ball sailed over WR by at least 10 feet.. next possesion Mich St shoves the guy in the back before ball gets to WR and no call... I got off the game with Mich St +3 at the half after seeing those developments.. Mich St did play very well but officiating was one sided
 

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writing was on the wall when Stanford got called for pass interference whewn the ball sailed over WR by at least 10 feet.. next possesion Mich St shoves the guy in the back before ball gets to WR and no call... I got off the game with Mich St +3 at the half after seeing those developments.. Mich St did play very well but officiating was one sided
MSU pretty much bitchslapped them and if not for turnovers would have blown them out. Refs had nothing to do with the win.
 

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MSU pretty much bitchslapped them and if not for turnovers would have blown them out. Refs had nothing to do with the win.

Well, to be fair, they called PI on a pretty big 3rd and goal that was not PI.
 

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MSU pretty much bitchslapped them and if not for turnovers would have blown them out. Refs had nothing to do with the win.

He's pumped how great Stanford and the Pac 12 are all season. Just needed an excuse when they got manhandled.
 

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MSU pretty much bitchslapped them and if not for turnovers would have blown them out. Refs had nothing to do with the win.

You were pretty much looking the other way with these calls if you were rooting for Mich St...a 4pt game with all of the officiating going to MSU.. two really bad calls stood out..look at the boxscore and you would see how one sided it was...I wouldn't call that a bitchslap.. Shaw didn't have a good game either.. Stanford wins that game 8 out of 10 times played
 

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You were pretty much looking the other way with these calls if you were rooting for Mich St...a 4pt game with all of the officiating going to MSU.. two really bad calls stood out..look at the boxscore and you would see how one sided it was...I wouldn't call that a bitchslap.. Shaw didn't have a good game either.. Stanford wins that game 8 out of 10 times played

I agree the uncatchable ball was a bad call, but give a little credit where credit is due. The bad call didn't make Michigan State control the line of scrimmage, didn't make Shaw and company get severely out coached, didn't make the Cardinal get outplayed on defense, didn't make them get outplayed at the QB and didn't make their offense disappear after the 1st quarter.

No shame for Stanford losing to a very solid Michigan State side. Both teams had great seasons and deserve a tip of the cap for their accomplishments. Let's not trivialize it, or sell MSU short by suggesting this game hung on the balance or played out the way it did due to officiating.
 

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I agree the uncatchable ball was a bad call, but give a little credit where credit is due. The bad call didn't make Michigan State control the line of scrimmage, didn't make Shaw and company get severely out coached, didn't make the Cardinal get outplayed on defense, didn't make them get outplayed at the QB and didn't make their offense disappear after the 1st quarter.

No shame for Stanford losing to a very solid Michigan State side. Both teams had great seasons and deserve a tip of the cap for their accomplishments. Let's not trivialize it, or sell MSU short by suggesting this game hung on the balance or played out the way it did due to officiating.

I did mention in earlier thread that Mich St played well.. becuase they did.. Stanford got outcoached .. no denying that either..I'm just saying that the game was officaited very one sided and all the big calls went in Mich St's favor that contributed to the win..game easily could have stretched out more then the 10-0 deficit Mich St was in early. Stanford's next drive got stopped by a bad PI call too.. if these two calls don't happen, Mich St has to play a completely different game from a bigger defecit.. Its the way I saw the game, if others saw it differently, so be it..
 

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You were pretty much looking the other way with these calls if you were rooting for Mich St...a 4pt game with all of the officiating going to MSU.. two really bad calls stood out..look at the boxscore and you would see how one sided it was...I wouldn't call that a bitchslap.. Shaw didn't have a good game either.. Stanford wins that game 8 out of 10 times played
LMFAO. That's really fucking funny.
 

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I did mention in earlier thread that Mich St played well.. becuase they did.. Stanford got outcoached .. no denying that either..I'm just saying that the game was officaited very one sided and all the big calls went in Mich St's favor that contributed to the win..game easily could have stretched out more then the 10-0 deficit Mich St was in early. Stanford's next drive got stopped by a bad PI call too.. if these two calls don't happen, Mich St has to play a completely different game from a bigger defecit.. Its the way I saw the game, if others saw it differently, so be it..
I saw a game in which Stanford didn't do jack dick after the first possession. MSU gave them 7 points and fumbled away a drive deep in Stanford territory. Sure, everyone complains about every call that doesn't go their way, but it wasn't a poorly officiated game. MSU was just better.
 

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I saw a game in which Stanford didn't do jack dick after the first possession. MSU gave them 7 points and fumbled away a drive deep in Stanford territory. Sure, everyone complains about every call that doesn't go their way, but it wasn't a poorly officiated game. MSU was just better.

It was a one sided officiated game.. take a look at the stats if you need more convincing.. So, Mich St gets credit for stopping Stanford's offense, but when Stanford got thru the Mich St D line and forced the QB into a bad play, thats giving Stanford points. Ok I get it now... on top of all that, Mich St pretty much maxed out what they could do with game preperation and execution..So that was about as well of a result that could have happened... We can all agree that Stanford could game plan a whole helluva lot better and execute alot better.. One team played there best and one didn't, coupled with the one sided officating, you get a 4pt upset... so again Stanford wins that game 8 out of 10 times... pretty much the same with Bama beating Oklahoma 8 out of 10 times
 

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People see what they wanna see and blame the refs if all else fails. I guess it's always gonna be this way.
 

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People see what they wanna see and blame the refs if all else fails. I guess it's always gonna be this way.

no, people watch the games and anylize what happens in a game.. its gonna be that way for some and not for others...If I didn't watch what happens in a game I can't make adjustments just like the teams that have too. I had Stanford-3... Didn't like what was haappening in the 1st half even though they were up by 3 and a very good 2nd half team... Took Mich St +3 in 2nd half to get off the play and maybe create a win and a push.. Mich St was playing pretty good, Stanford wasn't, refs weren't either..
 

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I agree with you about the right side not being the side that cashes. Wrong sides win all the time. But MSU was the right side here. Stanford couldn't run and Stanford couldn't throw. Stanford couldn't do anything.
 

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I agree with you about the right side not being the side that cashes. Wrong sides win all the time. But MSU was the right side here. Stanford couldn't run and Stanford couldn't throw. Stanford couldn't do anything.

Illini, I like you as a poster and think you're a good guy but to you even think about stuff before you type it down?

On the year, MSU only gave up 86.6 RYPG. In the Rose Bowl, Stanford rushed for 162 almost doubling MSU's season average.

What do you mean they couldn't run?
 

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I agree with you about the right side not being the side that cashes. Wrong sides win all the time. But MSU was the right side here. Stanford couldn't run and Stanford couldn't throw. Stanford couldn't do anything.

Stanford couldn't coach or game plan worth a crap in the Rose Bowl...I will say that... Not sure what the thought process was leading into that game... If there was a rematch, I would be all over Stanford.. You would have to think they would make the neccessary adjustments this time.. I can't see Mich St being able to do much more then they already were able to
 

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Illini, I like you as a poster and think you're a good guy but to you even think about stuff before you type it down?

On the year, MSU only gave up 86.6 RYPG. In the Rose Bowl, Stanford rushed for 162 almost doubling MSU's season average.

What do you mean they couldn't run?
Oh, Stanford tore it up. 6 offensive points in the last 55 minutes of the ballgame.

They couldn't run means they couldn't run.
 

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Oh, Stanford tore it up. 6 offensive points in the last 55 minutes of the ballgame.

They couldn't run means they couldn't run.

I didn't say they scored a lot Illini. If you make the statement they couldn't run the ball then back it with stats please.

Fact of the matter is the #2 run D in the nation that normally gives up 86.6 RYPG gave up 162. Stanford doubled their game average in the Rose Bowl.

Don't say they couldn't run the ball if you don't have the stats to back it up. Simply put, you're wrong. Just accept it and move along.
 

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I didn't say they scored a lot Illini. If you make the statement they couldn't run the ball then back it with stats please.

Fact of the matter is the #2 run D in the nation that normally gives up 86.6 RYPG gave up 162. Stanford doubled their game average in the Rose Bowl.

Don't say they couldn't run the ball if you don't have the stats to back it up. Simply put, you're wrong. Just accept it and move along.
I'll accept my dime win and you accept your debate title. Cheers!
 

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