rhinooooo said:
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Video replays. Fifa. Please sort it out!
Man Utd lose a match they dominated for 90 minutes. Celtic perform poorly. Jarosik dives for a freekick that the ref does not give, then changes his mind. Nakamura scores from the freekick. Beautiful goal, but should never have happened. I'm fucking furious. To top it off, United miss a penalty in the 89th minute.:nohead:
YTD -18.16
joeyfitzclick said:
You won your bet mate. I lost mine.
Obviously my frustration masks the fact that United didn't create enough chances. But, I've no idea how you can say United were awful. All opinions I have read and heard thus far highlight the fact that Man United dominated the entirety of the match. The first half saw over 60% possession. Celtic couldn't get close to them and the crowd fell silent for long periods. There was a vast difference in quality between the teams, and ONLY when Strachan decided to play 5 in midfield did Celtic become a danger. It should have been a walkover.
Congrats on the win though.
Regardless of the result (Saha scores the sitter and penalty), even if they won 2-1, I thought United under performed. They were dull, uninventive, they didnt create many chances, all in all they were poor. Carrick was invisible, Scholes didnt have a shot on goal the whole game, Ronaldo didnt show any of the magic he is capable of, Saha was abysmal and Rooney played poorly.
I have seen them play like this many times and still win, it just didnt happen tonight. Doesnt change the fact they were poor. I have watched United play over 1000 times and this is in the top 20 of poor performances. If there are articles out there saying United played well and deserved a victory here please share them with me.
I have seen them play like this many times and still win, it just didnt happen tonight. Doesnt change the fact they were poor. I have watched United play over 1000 times and this is in the top 20 of poor performances. If there are articles out there saying United played well and deserved a victory here please share them with me.
I agree on the lack of chances. Not enough were created. There wasn't enough incisiveness through the middle.
I don't agree with the rest. Particularly saying that this was in the top 20 of their poor performances. There's been alot worse. I think the match highlighted alot of the great qualities in the team. Particularly the fact that they have developed an unbelievable possession game coupled with excellent movement. There were various passages of play that were terrific. Were they to have won, they would be on various highlights packages. Also of note was the solidity and assuredness United now have in defence. Vidic and Rio have formed a great partnership. They don't panic, are comfortable in possession, and very tough as well.
The problem was, the good moves were often in the middle of the park, and lead to attacks on the wing with no one to pass to in the centre.
The attacking philosophy was there. They weren't at top gear to completely exploit the situation.
As for the articles etc, I can point you in the direction of two I've read, even forums wherein these points were highlighted. I don't think Man Utd's dominance of this game, and Celtics quite poor performance is a point thats up to debate. It's the lack of incisiveness.
Sky Sports UK report: http://home.skysports.com/matchreport.aspx?fxid=307278&CPID=5&channel=football_home
The following from the Guardian UK Football website:
http://football.guardian.co.uk/Match_Report/0,,1953945,00.html
The majority of match reports will repeat these views. I think you're being very very harsh on the Man United performance.
I don't agree with the rest. Particularly saying that this was in the top 20 of their poor performances. There's been alot worse. I think the match highlighted alot of the great qualities in the team. Particularly the fact that they have developed an unbelievable possession game coupled with excellent movement. There were various passages of play that were terrific. Were they to have won, they would be on various highlights packages. Also of note was the solidity and assuredness United now have in defence. Vidic and Rio have formed a great partnership. They don't panic, are comfortable in possession, and very tough as well.
The problem was, the good moves were often in the middle of the park, and lead to attacks on the wing with no one to pass to in the centre.
The attacking philosophy was there. They weren't at top gear to completely exploit the situation.
As for the articles etc, I can point you in the direction of two I've read, even forums wherein these points were highlighted. I don't think Man Utd's dominance of this game, and Celtics quite poor performance is a point thats up to debate. It's the lack of incisiveness.
Sky Sports UK report: http://home.skysports.com/matchreport.aspx?fxid=307278&CPID=5&channel=football_home
The following from the Guardian UK Football website:
http://football.guardian.co.uk/Match_Report/0,,1953945,00.html
The majority of match reports will repeat these views. I think you're being very very harsh on the Man United performance.
the mad actuarian said:
:missingte There's no need to apologise. I'd been looking at this game all week, and saw the strong team was being played. It was my own judgement; I'd love to be able to blame you :tongue2: but unfortunately that wasn't to be. I'll admit to have seeing your large play on it, and am very sorry you lost it.
It was definitely a shocking result. You made a brilliant call on the Bordeaux over. I look forward to your Italian plays this week; hopefully we'll get the bastard bookies this time. :toast:
Hull City vs. Southampton @ 2.37
10Bet - 3.5units
Luton vs. Preston @ 2.24
10Bet - 3.5units
Sheffield United vs. Charlton +0.25 @ 1.901
Pinnacle - 2.5units
Blackburn vs. Fulham +0.5 @ 1.909
10Bet - 2.5units
Monaco -0.75 vs. Valenciennes @ 2.10
10Bet - 2units
St Etienne -0.75 vs. Lorient @ 1.952
10Bet - 2units
Inter Milan vs. Siena +1.5 @ 1.99
10Bet - 1unit
10Bet - 3.5units
Luton vs. Preston @ 2.24
10Bet - 3.5units
Sheffield United vs. Charlton +0.25 @ 1.901
Pinnacle - 2.5units
Blackburn vs. Fulham +0.5 @ 1.909
10Bet - 2.5units
Monaco -0.75 vs. Valenciennes @ 2.10
10Bet - 2units
St Etienne -0.75 vs. Lorient @ 1.952
10Bet - 2units
Inter Milan vs. Siena +1.5 @ 1.99
10Bet - 1unit
joeyfitzclick said:
Yep. I know you've done really well with your Charlton fade. This bet may seem...
hno:...But, I've bet on them twice this season. They won one for me, and lost the other.
They've got a better team than Sheffield United. Their injury problems have gotten better, and despite the instability from the sacking of Dowie, the team selection has stabilised. They have just as much motivation to get the points.Hopefully, it'll come through.
I might get on the Spurs +0.75 as you did. I went to the Fulham vs. Arsenal game on Wednesday. Terrific atmosphere, Fulham were brilliant, and they really should have beaten Arsenal by five or even six! Stupid team selection from Wenger and a lack of any desire or basic defensive competence. I'm just afraid to back Spurs for now as its a derby game, and Arsenal have to respond at some point.
