Not arguing if it was or wasn't a 1st down (looking at the pictures/GIFs, I lean towards a first, either way too close to overturn any call on the field, no matter if they called him short or across the 1st down marker). But I don't agree with that logic: It is true that the ball has to touch the 15 in that case and that you don't need the chains to find the 1st down spot. BUT: The nose of the football isn't touching the ground, it's several cm up in the air. So if it really is a matter of inches, it depends a lot on your viewing angle to decide if the nose touches the 15 in that case or doesn't. So bringing out the chains can actually make sense because it extends the 15yard line vertically and thereby makes it a lot easier to decide if the nose of the ball touches the 15 or if it doesn't.Someone else that doesn't know football. In ot you start at the 25 if the ball touches the 15 it is a first down. Why would you need to measure?
So Buckeye fans are Democrats?Completely agree with you here, except, as an outside observer, he didn't make the 15 yard line. I'm still waiting to see the replay. If the refs didn't give it to him though they wouldn't have made it out of there alive and buckeye fans would have torn the stadium down
The ball has an elliptical shape, therefore the part that is furthest downfield after it has been spotted is up in the air and not touching the ground. When the decision on it being a 1st down comes down to an inch or fractions of an inch, it is far easier to determine if you have the chain out.I have no clue what you are saying. The refs mark the ball on the ground. If the ball is touching any part of the 15 yrd stripe which is on the field then it is a first down. Why would they bring the chains in? If is touching 15 it's s first if it's not touching then game over
Just to make it clear: Even though I first thought he was short when it happened, after seeing the replays and pictures I think they got the call right and he or more precisely the ball actually made it to the 15yard line.Soriano12, you make some good points.
I don't think the ball broke the white line. The yellow line yes, but not the 15 yard line.
You're drunk no 1st down gameover-plus 3 other b.s. calls against mich-----------F@@keyes had 2 penalities the whole
aThe lines are painted on the field by people. Could definitely be off by enough to make it short. That's why you always use the chains.