Raiders-Shack contest. Post plays here.

[raiders72001]

Raiders total showing a difference of 1.71
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Overall Totals
Raiders 15-8 (+3.97 units)
Shack 11-11-1 (-.64 units)

Day 8
Raiders 1-2 (-1.43)
Shack 1-1(-.04)
Posts: 3095 | From: Who plays with more units? MFG or Jeff Garcia | Registered: September 12, 2002

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[SHACK]

Sea

The point is i posted a total yesterday. Raiders cried that the line moved and wanted me to take his adjusted line. I NEVER agreed to this line. He said no action. This is when i came back with i'll take that line IF the Yankees game on sunday would be wiped out. This is the guy who cried about my total line moving 1 minute and 28 seconds before i posted the play on the forum. So if he nitpicks me 2 minutes i wanted to nitpick on the Yankees games i posted 28 minutes before start time. And that is my stance. He basicaly didn't want my play last nigh to stand UNTIL it lost, then and only then was it okay with him. It's all in this thread. I said i would ONLY take his line IF the Yanks game on sunday be wiped out. I agree with your solution which was echoed by EGD. Raiders wants to dispute everything. BTW Raiders never agreed to adjust the line last week on the game he bet yet he expects me to adjust my line. He wants it his way and his way. I will agree to your arbitration and not bitch but i feel strongly that this guy tries to manipulate everything to his advantage. I would strongly urge you to read this entire thread.

 

[1cheater]

I say ditch the contest, donate the 2 grand to BTJ's wife so she can have him whacked and be done with his illiterate, lazey, no good, degenerate gambling ass!

 

[raiders72001]

I asked Shack 5 times if he wanted the Over bet to stand or if he would like to cancel it because it was obvious where he was going if you read the thread. I gave him a chance to cancel it. He took the bet. He's lied numerous times in this thread. He once even stated something to the affect that the rules state that posts have to be in 30 prior to the listed time when it plainly says prior to the start. Why would someone try to make a bet contingent on something else unless he was trying to back out on any loss. I agreed to none of his scams and said beforehand what he was trying to do.

 

[raiders72001]

Post by Shack
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You get it your way again Raiders we are going to play 100% by the rules you came up with in the beginning with no discrepencies.
So you say I have the adjusted price of over 11 -104 -that's fine.
I see on Sunday 6-1-03 I played the Yankees - 1.5 -171 and the bet was placed at 12:37 pm. The start time of the game was 1:05 pm. The bet was put in 28 minutes before gametime and by rule it must be in atleast 30 minutes prior to game time. Therefore that bet is no action and some how you counted it as a loss of -171. So you need to correct that and I can use the corrected price on the Yankees over.
My apologies. The rules are the rules. Two minutes can make a big difference. You are right.
Posts: 476 | From: Los Angeles | Registered: July 04, 2001

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Shack agreed to having action here. He lied again. It doesn't say I'll take the oner if. Later he discussed the Yanks play.

 

[raiders72001]

Shack agrees to taking the over and later goes on to discuss the Yanks play. In his last post he said he'd take the over only if the Yanks play was canceled. He lied again. He said action on the over. There was no only action if statement.

 

[raiders72001]

If needed I can go back and quote numerous lies on Shack's part.

 

[SHACK]

Raiders

I'm getting sick of this. You offered that line and i declined so you said no action. Go back and read what you said asshole. I take that to mean no action since you made every other rule. I said i would only take that line IF the Yanks game on sunday would be disallowed. Face if your dumbass wouldn't have anything yesterday then there is no dispute. We had a dispute before the game and came to no agreement because you would not answer back to my post. Therefore NO ACTION as YOU said.

 

[SHACK]

Raiders

Shut up and let Sea make his ruling. I have said all i'm going to say on this. Sea can read and i will not vent if he rules against me. I expect you to do the same. Sea is a good guy and will do what he thinks is fair, i have no doubt about that.

 

[raiders72001]

Please stop the lies. Here are back to back postsw right before the game.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> posted June 03, 2003 06:46 PM
You get it your way again Raiders we are going to play 100% by the rules you came up with in the beginning with no discrepencies.
So you say I have the adjusted price of over 11 -104 -that's fine.
I see on Sunday 6-1-03 I played the Yankees - 1.5 -171 and the bet was placed at 12:37 pm. The start time of the game was 1:05 pm. The bet was put in 28 minutes before gametime and by rule it must be in atleast 30 minutes prior to game time. Therefore that bet is no action and some how you counted it as a loss of -171. So you need to correct that and I can use the corrected price on the Yankees over.
My apologies. The rules are the rules. Two minutes can make a big difference. You are right.
Posts: 477 | From: Los Angeles | Registered: July 04, 2001



raiders72001

If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space
posted June 03, 2003 06:52 PM
We agree that you have action on Cinc O 11 -104
Posts: 3101 | From: Who plays with more units? MFG or Jeff Garcia



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[raiders72001]

Of course you won't be mad. You tried to scam me. If the scam fails oh well you'll just go on to the next scam.

 

[seaurchin2217]

there really is no way to do this that everybody will agree to and since i was not part of the decisions made in the past i can only do one thing

that is take half the units in question and throw them out

also i want you to agree to the following

1)All other diputes from this time out will be discussed offline in a adult manner
2)The online pissing match between you two ends NOW
3)The Shack/Raiders thread is for picks only
4)If disputes cannot be settled between the two parties you will make the final decision



finally if you guys want me to moderate this thing i want to change the rules to use a line from 4 oclock at pinnacle that is good till only 6
all plays in by 6

this will elimate alot of the problem

 

[gamblingislife]

Good solution Sea but why make them stop fighting it's funny. How bout this neither one of you is innocent. You both have points. Something more concrete will iron this out. Now good luck to both of you and let the better man win.

 

[seaurchin2217]

gambling
i agree they both have points
and i am using a tool i ued back when i had a figure< Off> with a goog customer
split the difference and get back to work

 

[raiders72001]

Sea- I appreciate you looking into this and holding the money. Because you have gone out of your way to do this I'm not saying anything about the decision at this time. I will agree to everything except the last paragraph about plays being in at 4. I will agree to the 5 minute window you posted earlier and plays having to be in by 30 min prior to the listed time.

 

[gamblingislife]

Sea

They have real hatred going i enjoy reading their venom. But your right it's time to get down to business at hand. Guys knock it off and get back to work. Play time is over. Let your picks do the talking.

 

[seaurchin2217]

whatever you and shack want to do is fine
about the lines but i really dont want to get involved in a argument where i piss one of you guys off

if you guys agree then here are the rules i will use

if i am ask to mediate i will decide by the following and no exceptions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not even if you both agree no acceptions


1 plays in by 30 minutes prior to scheduled time

2 line will be graded by using pinnacles line from best bettor with a 5 minute window

thats it men
let me know

 

[raiders72001]

I agree. Thanks Sea.

 

[SHACK]

I agree Sea.

 

[raiders72001]

Sea -111
Ana -146
Det +126