gbogo said:
This is total BS, I don't believe you for one second that you can make money on a consistant basis playing roulette. There are no patterns, did you know that the revenue from roulette went UP since they put those stupid boards up that keep track of the past results. They fool gamblers like yourself into thinking they can spot a trend. Single zero roulette only takes the house edge down a little bit from a whopping 18%. Craps, blackjack, poker and sportsbetting are the only games that you can give yourself some sort of edge or at least cut the houses edge down to almost nothing. Maybe there are some pro lottery players out there too, or maybe a pro Keno player. I know for a fact that some pro slot machine players are around, where are ya? Are you going to be at the bash this year? If you are then I will bet you, name your price, that you do not win at roulette while we are there. On a regular basis that is, there are some lucky bounces that give you some money but I mean regularly.
yup - u guys are hilarious and you can keep playing blackjack
in relation to rebates
$10 per 100 k trade is standard unless they make you do it by currency pair and value
usdchf chf10
etc
however you can generally just make it 10 usd
for eg trade 1 mio 5 times a day = 500 usd each day, + or - trading p/l
in relation to rebates
$10 per 100 k trade is standard unless they make you do it by currency pair and value
usdchf chf10
etc
however you can generally just make it 10 usd
for eg trade 1 mio 5 times a day = 500 usd each day, + or - trading p/l
for online retail fx trading the main players are
fxcm - horrible firm make you trade on 10-15 pip prices via dealer intervention once you make a couple of winning trades
gft - software designed by an acountant and poor dealers not honoring trades
cmc - 2 pip spread probably best of the bunch in usa
saxobank - insure account balance up to 40 k eur - which noone else does if you can handle a non regulated us broker this wud be the pick
oanda - no experience with them
acm - based in chf - bunch of criminals and horrible trading rules - run simarly to fxcm - they close accounts of winners or discourage you to the maximum extent they can to trade with them
theres a few others but personally wudnt look at - as their capital is so low makes the risk of trading with them too high.
fxcm - horrible firm make you trade on 10-15 pip prices via dealer intervention once you make a couple of winning trades
gft - software designed by an acountant and poor dealers not honoring trades
cmc - 2 pip spread probably best of the bunch in usa
saxobank - insure account balance up to 40 k eur - which noone else does if you can handle a non regulated us broker this wud be the pick
oanda - no experience with them
acm - based in chf - bunch of criminals and horrible trading rules - run simarly to fxcm - they close accounts of winners or discourage you to the maximum extent they can to trade with them
theres a few others but personally wudnt look at - as their capital is so low makes the risk of trading with them too high.
yes just about all firms pay rebates for turnover
fx solutions are one of those that do not come up on the radar due to having low capital
not for me
for example the us based ones you have to get into ib relationship
here is a newer firm
"INSTITUTIONAL CLIENTS
<!-- CONTENT ELEMENT, uid:380/text [begin] --><!-- Text: [begin] -->MIG Investments introduces new and attractive conditions for institutional clients:
Profit from rebates on your trades and get access to more news and exclusive reports from major banks!
All of MIG’s clients already benefit from our incredibly low dealing spreads, which include 2 pip spreads on six currency pairs and 3 pip spreads on another four pairs. Despite these very low spreads, our institutional clients benefit from further rebates.
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this is very low and you get them to move higher
another one is ifx commerce alot of people use them for rebates (i dont)
you need to read each site carefully to get to the right person to set up for your trading.
goodluck
fx solutions are one of those that do not come up on the radar due to having low capital
not for me
for example the us based ones you have to get into ib relationship
here is a newer firm
"INSTITUTIONAL CLIENTS
<!-- CONTENT ELEMENT, uid:380/text [begin] --><!-- Text: [begin] -->MIG Investments introduces new and attractive conditions for institutional clients:
Profit from rebates on your trades and get access to more news and exclusive reports from major banks!
All of MIG’s clients already benefit from our incredibly low dealing spreads, which include 2 pip spreads on six currency pairs and 3 pip spreads on another four pairs. Despite these very low spreads, our institutional clients benefit from further rebates.
<!-- Text: [end] --><!-- CONTENT ELEMENT, uid:380/text [end] --><!-- CONTENT ELEMENT, uid:421/templavoila_pi1 [begin] -->Institutional clients enjoy the following advantages:
- They receive a rebate of $15 US per trade of 1 million/10 lots ($1.5 US per lot of 100,000).
- They have access to more news articles and exclusive reports from highly regarded banks.
- They receive a special follow-up service by our experienced traders.
this is very low and you get them to move higher
another one is ifx commerce alot of people use them for rebates (i dont)
you need to read each site carefully to get to the right person to set up for your trading.
goodluck
prekigeo
im sorry your life has been boring but for me i left home to travel the world as a professional athlete at 17
once i ripped up my shoulder at 22 i got a degree and entered the world of international trading and hedge funds.
now i have my own trading company and make a living trading/betting - im sorry that you have not been so lucky
im sorry your life has been boring but for me i left home to travel the world as a professional athlete at 17
once i ripped up my shoulder at 22 i got a degree and entered the world of international trading and hedge funds.
now i have my own trading company and make a living trading/betting - im sorry that you have not been so lucky
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These guys offer analysis and bias recognition, which is also done at the manufacturers before they leave the factory. Can you imigine what would happen if a manufacturer sent out a biased wheel and it got hammered? They would never sell another. Not to poke holes in your story but...
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These guys offer analysis and bias recognition, which is also done at the manufacturers before they leave the factory. Can you imigine what would happen if a manufacturer sent out a biased wheel and it got hammered? They would never sell another. Not to poke holes in your story but...
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Yes, I would have bought beating slots. Been there done that. But there are businesses that even offer services to analyze these wheels. So this guy comes along and makes $400-$10,000 per trip? Professional storyteller is more like it, not to bash or anything. Whatever dude, good luck in everything you say you succeed at. The rest just baffles me in bullshit.
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o frog
you are referring to defects in the wheel such as bias in its inherent physical nature that is not the bias i look for
such as trading eurusd the pattern forms on the chart to indicate that the market is short and about to squeeze to a higher point, it creates a profitable trading opportunity (you can say that no such pattern exists if you like- but thats what technical analysis is - so you dont believe in it fine i do)
its the same in roulette - the numbers form a pattern themselves- ie first dozen red third black first red etc then you narrow the selection down by other criteria ---- if you have never traded something before then you are not used to identifying positions where the market or roulette wheel are biased in your favor
in terms of questioning anything ive done athletically thats a no brainer thats just fact.
you are referring to defects in the wheel such as bias in its inherent physical nature that is not the bias i look for
such as trading eurusd the pattern forms on the chart to indicate that the market is short and about to squeeze to a higher point, it creates a profitable trading opportunity (you can say that no such pattern exists if you like- but thats what technical analysis is - so you dont believe in it fine i do)
its the same in roulette - the numbers form a pattern themselves- ie first dozen red third black first red etc then you narrow the selection down by other criteria ---- if you have never traded something before then you are not used to identifying positions where the market or roulette wheel are biased in your favor
in terms of questioning anything ive done athletically thats a no brainer thats just fact.
o frog
"The rest just baffles me in bullshit."
this just shows your general attitude to something you are not willing to learn. i learn or try to learn more about the market and trends everyday to help me increase my edge but when you have a closed mind and refuse to look at something from a different perspective than your own that you come up with statements like that.
in the financial market you are only as good as your reputation, thats what i have for 15 years at a wholesale level. so to be bashed by someone in a sports forum over 500-10k in gambling funds seems kind of silly to me. i think in this case you are trying to pick on someone who is the first person you have come across that isnt full of b.s.
"The rest just baffles me in bullshit."
this just shows your general attitude to something you are not willing to learn. i learn or try to learn more about the market and trends everyday to help me increase my edge but when you have a closed mind and refuse to look at something from a different perspective than your own that you come up with statements like that.
in the financial market you are only as good as your reputation, thats what i have for 15 years at a wholesale level. so to be bashed by someone in a sports forum over 500-10k in gambling funds seems kind of silly to me. i think in this case you are trying to pick on someone who is the first person you have come across that isnt full of b.s.
